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Rarity posted:Look at all these people neglecting to add their WOOOAAAAHHHH OHHHHHHHHHs Honestly I don’t know too much about her (I only joined the party in December and haven’t been to a meeting yet) but she seems a bit melty. What else has she done?
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endlessmonotony posted:Okay what the gently caress is wrong with "pansexual" first of all? And Dragon Age was a sprawling epic very much in the vein of the BG games too. DA2 is pretty pansexual but that's actually a good thing because everyone should be able to enjoy loving Merrill/Anders/Fenris. The most recent Bioware games have been of declining quality for sure but that definitely doesn't stem from a desire to write quippy Whedonesque characters, even when those are present (At most I would say they're emblematic of the same thing - EA interference and changes in staffing). It's, like, not because of character dialog that Anthem is such a sack of dismembered dicks nobody realizes is less than a year old.
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OwlFancier posted:Well yeah if they get a tory sure they're just gonna treat tory party 1 and tory party 2 as things to play off each other but that's obviously pointless for our purposes. I don't even mean a tory necessarily, but if the Labour right can present it as 'their candidate' won and constantly brief about how things have changed and corbynism has been rejected and Labour needs to get seriously centrist about policy, I can see the media happily playing that up for a bit and crowing while kicking the left I just think it's something to watch out for, because it plays into this idea of "we need an electable, popular leader" and what's unsaid there is the 'right' choice will get a bit of a pass, that's the reward for the party moving in the 'right' direction. Some people will just want to give up and choose that path of least resistance, just in the hope that playing the game will make life easier and give us a chance
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OwlFancier posted:You have a powerful will to avoid just pouring panfuls of unset fudge into your mouth every time you make it. I like to avoid third degree burns- the liquid fudge is poured at 117c and sticks like hell so you really don’t want to get it on you. I love sweet stuff, but I don’t/can’t eat as much of my product for pleasure as I once did- for a start I don’t want to get bored of fudge! And when it’s constantly there, it’s less of a treat.
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:Honestly I don’t know too much about her (I only joined the party in December and haven’t been to a meeting yet) but she seems a bit melty. What else has she done? She very famously reported someone telling her (maybe not even personally, the tweet is long-deleted) to "get in the sea" to the police as a death threat.
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Camrath posted:I like to avoid third degree burns- the liquid fudge is poured at 117c and sticks like hell so you really don’t want to get it on you. GOON PRODUCES HOME-MADE NAPALM!!
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Camrath posted:I like to avoid third degree burns- the liquid fudge is poured at 117c and sticks like hell so you really don’t want to get it on you. I like cooking and baking but hot sugar terrifies me for this reason. Boiling water, hot fat, even the occasional absent-minded slip of the oven glove leading to your hand touching a 200-degree pan are all fine, but boiling sugar is like loving napalm, and the one time I got just a tiny drop of it on the back of my hand it hurt more than the time I put my hand on the iron when I was a kid.
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:Honestly I don’t know too much about her (I only joined the party in December and haven’t been to a meeting yet) but she seems a bit melty. What else has she done? - Voiced support for notorious TERFy group A Woman's Place - Was part of the Chicken Coup following the EU referendum - Got very outraged at the idea that her CLP should democratically decide whether to keep her
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Ms Adequate posted:GOON PRODUCES HOME-MADE NAPALM!! The Marmite product development department had to work extra hard to get out of the rut of products that had a 50% customer approval rating.
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Rarity posted:- Voiced support for notorious TERFy group A Woman's Place Lol ok yeah she sounds pretty lovely
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2015: all these leadership choices are naff as hell I'll pick this old substitute teacher guy cause at least he's right 2020: all these leadership choices are naff and now there's not even the substitute teacher guy
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gh0stpinballa posted:honest q, do you think the british state would allow people to elect socialism I think that if Jeremy Corbyn-lead Labour Party had won the 2019 general election then Jeremy Corbyn would now be Prime Minister. I think if we had a popular uprising outwith a general election the state apparatus would absolutely fight it tooth & nail. I'll worry about if the state apparatus will let us in after we've proven that we can actually win over the public. But what's the alternative? Despair isn't helpful and ultimately is a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure. I continue to advocate for working outwith as well as within the Labour Party, and abandoning the Labour Party when it's no longer useful to the goal of establishing socialism is entirely valid, at least in the sense of stopping wasting energy on internal battles that can't be won even if you still keep your membership active just in case. Right now we're at a rare moment in time when the membership have a large say in the direction of the Labour Party so until that's changed by the Labour right there's still some value in it as a vehicle for pushing socialist narratives in the mainstream in away that just did not occur before 2015.
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Who do people like for the leadership (out of who's actually running)? I loved Corbyn but am a bit sceptical of Long-Bailey. Have always liked Nandy despite her being closer to the centre, but she backed Owen Smith in 2016, which is not ideal.
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I haven't seen anything to suggest long bailey isn't the preferred choice at this moment in time. I don't trust starmer and the rest are all right wing shits.
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Barry the Sprout posted:I had a quick look at the potential Liberal Democrat leadership nominees and lol. What's face... Swindon predicting a lib dem majority feels like so long ago
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Android Blues posted:Who do people like for the leadership (out of who's actually running)? Long-Bailey person with the best socialist bona fides running. Barry the Sprout posted:I had a quick look at the potential Liberal Democrat leadership nominees and lol. Should they even bother with one? They've barely enough MPs for it to be worthwhile.
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Ms Adequate posted:DA2 is pretty pansexual but that's actually a good thing because everyone should be able to enjoy loving Merrill/Anders/Fenris. I'm 90% sure DA2 is pansexual not because of artistic vision but because it maximises romance options per writing effort. And I'm not sure why anyone would enjoy loving Merrill but suit yourself I guess.
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forkboy84 posted:Should they even bother with one? They've barely enough MPs for it to be worthwhile. Apparently they need support from at least 10 % of the parliamentary party to stand. So 1 whole MP and the foot of another.
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Barry the Sprout posted:Apparently they need support from at least 10 % of the parliamentary party to stand. So 1 whole MP and the foot of another. I guess depending which way you round it they could end up with everyone standing on their own nomination or nobody able to stand.
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Android Blues posted:Who do people like for the leadership (out of who's actually running)? RLB is a perfectly decent, safe option who seems to get what Labour needs to do (rebuild itself into a resilient, ground-up insurgent party that can mitigate the damage from a permanently hostile media through parallel political structures). Nandy is Blue Labour, and appeared on-stage with Rod Fuckin' Liddle in a 2016 event for them. Avoid, avoid, avoid.
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OwlFancier posted:I guess depending which way you round it they could end up with everyone standing on their own nomination or nobody able to stand. _____\ 
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Azza Bamboo posted:A few ordinary people I know started talking about this and the consensus was that Keir "looks like more of a leader" and "is much stronger" This is how sexism works, you know. But elections are not won and lost by relative popularity of leaders. They're lost, after many years, usually after many scandals by governments people are thoroughly sick of (see 1964, 1997, 2010). The important thing is to make sure that when that next happens, which it will, the new government is one which will actually do something serious, not one that will think recreating Surestart justifies throwing the poor, disabled and brown under a bus (if those still exist). People panicked and tried for a soft left hope after we lost under Foot, and it was a terrible mistake that I desperately hope we don't repeat.
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I expect some of you had the email from Momentum about the leadership ballot? They are unanimously recommending RLB, obviously. They also recommend Rayner for deputy, which isn't ideal, which I found surprising. I'm really struggling over the deputy vote honestly.
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https://twitter.com/Bobby19_/status/1215427733842472960?s=20 i saw a good twitter thread about all the heinous poo poo starmer did as DoP but i can't find it now christ jo cox's husband is a poo poo https://twitter.com/JennThorburn_/status/1214535889239580675?s=20
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So it's pretty obvious that RLB is the best choice of those running for leader. What do we think of Rayner? As it stands she's the only one with a chance of getting on the ballot of looking good but I've also seen a lot of proper lefty's on Twitter saying they don't like her.
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Alertrelic posted:Bioware went from BG2 to making glorified pansexual dating simulators. Barry Shitpeas posted:But I think we have to admit that it stuck to Corbyn more than most  endlessmonotony posted:Bioware's decay started when EA gutted their writing team
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WhatEvil posted:So it's pretty obvious that RLB is the best choice of those running for leader. What do we think of Rayner? There's resentment that she isn't releasing some of her endorsement to ensure Butler gets enough nominations but she'd still be a big step up from the last Deputy Leader we had.
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Doesn't Butler have baggage from past associations? A BAME woman deputy would be good though. Burton has some good names against his nomination. It's all moot if no one else gets over the line though, at it is a worry to have a group as melty as the PLP have given Rayner so much backing.
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Darth Walrus posted:Are there any really bad Deputy Leaders on the list who we should be worried about coming close to Rayner if the left-wing vote gets split? Because if not, pushing Butler sounds like a perfectly fine idea. Rayner has plenty of nominations so no on that front, & the vote itself is done by preferential voting so just put Rayner 1, Butler 2 or Butler 1 & Rayner 2 and then it doesn't matter at all.
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