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noted national figure, Mike Pence. Nina Turner should be the pick for VP if only to see her debate the guy who is unwilling to be in a room with a woman and his wife not be around. edit: imagine Nina on stage in a leopard print quoting LL Cool J while Mike Pence is the same emotionless fascist he's always been. it's great that Bernie is gonna win so we get to see that. nearly killed em! fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jan 12, 2020 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Why do they hate her? Everytime I say I find her to be awesome and wonderful they say "No she's terrible" I ask why, and it's crickets They hate her because she won’t put up with centrist bullshit and is perfectly happy to call out other Democrats along with Republicans. Attacking other Democrats is a mortal sin for the lanyard crew (unless you’re punching left).
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SKULL.GIF posted:There's no such thing as a "viable" vice president. Name recognition is completely irrelevant. In your mind Bernie Sanders and Jeffrey Epstein are the same Cool cool cool (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Pander posted:1) I think it's still too early to think we have a good handle on the VP selection options. Bernie needs to get to presumptive nominee territory before that field coalesces and this becomes more than wishcasting. We aren't worried about insane right-winger's assassinating bernie. We are worried about actual existing powerful billionaire's that have a LOT to lose doing a business plot type of thing. Obama was safe because as soon as he became president he made sure not to threaten those with power. As for a viable VP, who cares? This isn't 1860. Bernie doesn't need to appeal to the racist status quo. He is the most popular politician in the country, he will be viable in the general on his own, therefore no matter who he picks for VP, they too are viable. The purpose of VP is to bully the senate, and in the case that the president is unable to continue their term, to take up their goals in the office and see them to completion. That's it.
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Jan 12, 2020 19:23
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Lol. The lanyards on my FB are going after Bernie hard. "Shades of 2016?"
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The Riders of Rohan are assembling https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1216425086032535552?s=19
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Jan 12, 2020 19:29
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ARACHTION posted:Is there actually a VP debate? Do you not remember Biden absolutely owning Paul Ryan? It was the last thing he did before sliding into the oblivion of dementia e: tbf I think I watched the Kaine-Pence debate but it was so brutally dull I erased the memory entirely E2: here's the debate schedule https://www.thewrap.com/dates-and-locations-set-for-2020-presidential-and-vice-presidential-debates/ Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jan 12, 2020 |
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Jan 12, 2020 19:36
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ARACHTION posted:Is there actually a VP debate? There always is one. It usually goes first debate, Vp debate, then the other two presidential. The first debate is in Notre Dame this year... I really want to get tickets for it. There will be some salty people from the St Joe Dems there no doubt but I want to see the piece of orange poo poo crash and burn live
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Pander posted:3) If Barack Obama, the gay Muslim Kenyan socialist terrorist didn't get harmed in office I think it's asinine to think assassination is a pressing concern more than a Q level conspiracy theory. Barack Obama did not threaten Capital. It’s not 1965, just because those with power are still racist doesn’t mean they consider every PoC to be a threat to their power. The racism is mostly a show for their rabbling masses. Barack Obama was not Martin Luther King, no matter how hard people on any place in the political spectrum try to make him so.
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Jan 12, 2020 19:38
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ARACHTION posted:Is there actually a VP debate? Let's hope not. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/4/13170206/pence-kaine-vice-presidential-debate-summary Pence will just stick to talking points and the media will declare him the winner.
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Concerned Citizen posted:not sure how that is true. the story about bernie's workers being unhappy was accurate, i'm not aware of it being phrased the way you said. but the essential parts of the story (that sanders workers wanted more money without getting dinged on health insurance, that they went to the press to put pressure on the campaign, that one worker filed a complaint with the nlrb alleging retaliation, that their hours were increasing to the point that their actual hourly wage was low) were true. they were underpaid relative to other campaigns, but mainly because bernie's organizers were hired early at a wage that was fairly common in 2016 (3k/m). other campaigns starting later offered higher wages, and the campaign was resistant to matching. This whole narrative is always ridiculous because it ignores unpaid interns in the other campaigns. If you really want to look at the other campaigns wages, you gotta average in all those $0/hr figures. Though regarding this specific thing, the whole thing is dumb both because 1. the script isn't even bad at all and 2. we have a few people in this thread specifically saying that the script doesn't resemble any strategy they've been directed to use.
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if nina turner debated pence, she'd tear him to shreds which is just another reason she needs to be bernie's veep Ytlaya posted:This whole narrative is always ridiculous because it ignores unpaid interns in the other campaigns. If you really want to look at the other campaigns wages, you gotta average in all those $0/hr figures. you're engaging with a chronic bad-faith poster
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Jan 12, 2020 19:41
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Pander posted:Let's hope not. pence did a pretty good job last time of not saying a god drat thing at all. it was assumed at the time he was trying to distance himself from the upcoming disastrous trump defeat and whelp
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Jan 12, 2020 19:44
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FizFashizzle posted:pence did a pretty good job last time of not saying a god drat thing at all. it was assumed at the time he was trying to distance himself from the upcoming disastrous trump defeat and whelp Pence's whole schtick was indeed "I'm a nice man please dont be rude by disagreeing with me" and it worked
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Jan 12, 2020 19:47
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OctaMurk posted:Pence's whole schtick was indeed "I'm a nice man please dont be rude by disagreeing with me" and it worked I mean it's not like Pence is popular....
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Who the gently caress had ever heard of Tim Kaine, Sarah Palin, or Dick Cheney?
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volts5000 posted:Would it be conspiratorial of me to think that's exactly what Steyer wants to do, spoil SC for Bernie? It's possible, Steyer's advertising is TV, radio, and mail flyers which would be most effective on old people or in this state old black people. His campaign pitches in the mail flyers came be summed up as the environment, impeach Trump, and that he's a good businessman and would thus would be with the economy. Nothing I've seen seems to be targeting young people though that may be because I block ads on Facebook and haven't seen any of his online ads. If I had to guess in terms of demographics it'll be Biden and Steyer splitting the older black vote, Warren and Pete splitting the older and wealthier white vote (which isn't large in this state), and Bernie taking the young white, black, and hispanic vote. The primary will be close but I think Bernie will take it based on his ground game and targeting of young voters.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Do you not remember Biden absolutely owning Paul Ryan? It was the last thing he did before sliding into the oblivion of dementia No, I’m Canadian and was making a point back then to avoid learning more about US politics than my own. Now I have realized we’re always 4-8 years behind you and our “hope and change” attractive do nothing PM has won his second term and I want to learn how to beat the right-wing populists who will take over in 4 years time. It has been really difficult not being legally allowed to donate to the Bernie campaign.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:Who the gently caress had ever heard of Tim Kaine, Sarah Palin, or Dick Cheney? I left out Cheney because he was big in the Nixon and Reagan admins. He balanced the ticket because some conservatives were legitimately concerned about his lack of experience/competence. Not in a "they wont vote for him" kinda way but in a "cutting $100K checks instead of $1MM checks."
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Has there been a poll from SC showing Biden with less than like a 20 point lead? He's winning SC.
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mcmagic posted:Has there been a poll from SC showing Biden with less than like a 20 point lead? He's winning SC. That's the safe bet, but we'll see what happens if and when Bernie wins Iowa and NH.
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Vp pick only matters if the person is a literal idiot, e.g. Sarah Palin. Otherwise I dont it matters because no one is voting for/against the bottom of the ticket.
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mcmagic posted:Has there been a poll from SC showing Biden with less than like a 20 point lead? He's winning SC. There's been two recent polls of SC https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1205244341062533121 https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1215446908463960064 His strategy is that every black person in the state will show up and vote for him without his campaign doing anything , his victory isn't guaranteed.
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Why is Biden trying to start a fight over his Iraq War vote when we have the loving receipts? https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1216381872982200320?s=21
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mcmagic posted:Has there been a poll from SC showing Biden with less than like a 20 point lead? He's winning SC. He's polling better there at the moment, people have explained repeatedly why that is the case, and why it won't be the case after he gets beat in IA and every other state that votes before SC.
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OctaMurk posted:Vp pick only matters if the person is a literal idiot, e.g. Sarah Palin. Otherwise I dont it matters because no one is voting for/against the bottom of the ticket. McCain would've got slaughtered even worse if he didn't pick Palin.
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If Biden is surrendering Iowa and NH and also falling well behind Sanders, Steyer and maybe Warren in organizing for SC, what is he actually doing with any of his time, effort or money?
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That Nina Turner op-ed is really good and I hope it persuades some SC primary voters who are on the fence between Biden and Bernie.
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SKULL.GIF posted:This poster believes Epstein killed himself. A huge blow to the credibility of the Secret Service, to be sure.
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https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1216437138625003522
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The Pussy Boss posted:That Nina Turner op-ed is really good and I hope it persuades some SC primary voters who are on the fence between Biden and Bernie. Link? I want to stir the pot.
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PerniciousKnid posted:A huge blow to the credibility of the Secret Service, to be sure. The point I was making is that people who reflexively dismiss out of hand the possibility that people who have literal hundreds of billions of dollars killed Epstein to protect themselves, are going to be the same sort of people who laugh off the possibility that these same people may take measures against Bernie to protect their wealth, despite this repeatedly happening in American history.
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I would like to see Nina Turner run for Senate. Portman is up in 2022 and really needs to go.
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Shbobdb posted:Link? I want to stir the pot. https://www.thestate.com/opinion/article239206718.html
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I'm not looking forward to the ~angry black woman~ memes if Turner gets the nod
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hobotrashcanfires posted:Oh for sure the only campaign that had actually unionized with an actually existing contract was only suddenly getting broad critical media coverage of unnamed "unhappy workers" and near instantaneous coverage when an anonymous nlrb complaint appeared (something they're always sifting through and reporting as though its obviously true something is fishy as evidenced by the many of the same media outlets covering all their own complaints). It all just happened so naturally and organically and wasn't dishonest at all. well they "suddenly got broad coverage" because the workers leaked a draft demand letter and chat logs to the washington post with the express purpose of getting news coverage. of course it wasn't natural and organic, it was the employees pressuring the campaign to give in by using the press. even sanders weighed in: quote:In an interview with the Des Moines Register published before his statement, Sanders said he was frustrated that information about the labor difficulties had been publicized. i mean it's one thing to downplay the significance of the story and another to just dismiss it as a smear when literally every element of it ended up being true. quote:Just wow, without all that the campaign never would've already been in the midst of renegotiating that contract. It wasn't laughable at all how so much of mainstream media jumped to hold Bernie's feet to the fire to protect workers, while rarely if ever mentioning any other campaign's treatment of their workers if they even had the hope of a promise of unionization. well clearly at least some workers felt they needed to put pressure on the campaign to capitulate. otherwise, presumably, they would not have gone to the press. it might be fair to say the press should look at working conditions on other campaigns, but to my knowledge no other campaign had ongoing labor disputes that would have prompted such a story. quote:https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1216201562357424128?s=20 re-writing the source material is standard if they feel the original scan could be traced back to an individual who wishes to remain anonymous. that is, after all, how reality winner got caught. (although presumably bernie isn't looking at microdots or whatever). why are you so upset about the re-writing, are you arguing that the source is fake and they made up the whole thing? quote:Hi it's me again that journalist, wow you Bernie twitter trolls I'm just reporting the facts this is all very normal objective stuff to report right on the heels of Warren's new strategy to be the unity candidate who's above the fray and can heal divides and bring everyone together. Shame about this scoop immediately identifying Bernie as someone who wants to tear us all apart and create rifts. Let's not report on this amazingly fortuitous timing. i think the argument that the media is just so in the tank for warren that they timed this story to enhance her campaign is absurd. it got leaked to the press by a volunteer or staffer, they asked the sanders campaign about it, and the bernie folks declined to comment but didn't deny it was real. it doesn't seem like it's fake news, and even if you want to downplay the significance it's certainly of interest that they're asking their volunteers to talk that way. if it was some low-level employee and an unauthorized document, they were certainly welcome to say that to politico.
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oxsnard posted:I'm not looking forward to the ~angry black woman~ memes if Turner gets the nod Bernie's almost definitely picking a woman of color for VP so brace yourself for a whole lot of racism and misogyny/misogynoir. Jewish dude and black lady on the same ticket is gonna bring out a whole lot of nastiness from both ends of the political spectrum.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Bernie's almost definitely picking a woman of color for VP so brace yourself for a whole lot of racism and misogyny/misogynoir. Jewish dude and black lady on the same ticket is gonna bring out a whole lot of nastiness from both ends of the political spectrum. AOC for VP.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Bernie's almost definitely picking a woman of color for VP so brace yourself for a whole lot of racism and misogyny/misogynoir. Jewish dude and black lady on the same ticket is gonna bring out a whole lot of nastiness from both ends of the political spectrum. Imagine if it's Rashida Tlaib
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