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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao how do you read "national endowment for democracy" and have CIA sirens going off in your brain quote:In the FAQs on its site, NED acknowledges its ongoing relationship with lawmakers, saying that its "continued funding is dependent on the continued support of the White House and Congress." Those who spearheaded creation of NED have long acknowledged it was part of an effort to move from covert to overt efforts to foster democracy. President Reagan said in 1983 that "this program will not be hidden in the shadows. It will stand proudly in the spotlight, and that's where it belongs." Allen Weinstein, a former acting president of NED and one of the authors of the study that led to its creation, told David Ignatius in a 1991 interview that: "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA. The biggest difference is that when such activities are done overtly, the flap potential is close to zero. Openness is its own protection."
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao how do you read "national endowment for democracy" and have CIA sirens going off in your brain
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:His operation is fueled by imperialist blood money, and he's training up an entire generation of western journalists to do the same exact kind of "remote investigations" he made his bank on. He's one of the most vile and corrosive influences on the western mediascape, and the fact he hasn't been perma'd yet is an indictment of the forums. this requires repeating, as if you think the wonks of today are awful, wait until you have to suffer through the remote viewing practices of the next generation's new graduates wait until it's office policy at Foreign Policy to cast literal oracle bones for the day's headlines
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turns out politics is posting, when its for the status quo lmao
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comedyblissoption posted:https://williamblum.org/chapters/rogue-state/trojan-horse-the-national-endowment-for-democracy lmao i am so sorry, there was a "not" missing from my first post. of course the NED is CIA
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that's cool and i figured. now we got a link lurkers can look at to see the allegations about the NED if they are unfamiliar with them
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very excited to start my new job funded by the Diplomatic Institution for Providing Salient History In Tehran
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Victory Position posted:this requires repeating, as if you think the wonks of today are awful, wait until you have to suffer through the remote viewing practices of the next generation's new graduates look if you know a better way to determine ba'al hamon's will i'm all ears
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https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/15/the-neds-useful-idiots/quote:On Friday, June 8, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow augmented her nightly Russiagate fetish by extolling the merits of the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), telling her huge audience that the NED, created in the 1980s by the Ronald Reagan administration, still does the “non-partisan hard work around the world, of promoting small D democracy and promoting the institutions of civil society that any culture needs in order to have a functioning democracy.”
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lmao she's such a shill at the end of the day for US and corporate interests.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:i wonder if hillary is proud of her work in libya
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also let me phrase this another way if brown moses was doing his internet journalism with the same quality and content as currently, but he was doing it with laser focus on the crimes and problems of the united states and its allies, he would not be funded by the NED
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comedyblissoption posted:the NED, created in the 1980s by the Ronald Reagan administration lmfao
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getting incredibly mad online that the truth was exposed. if only iran didnt admit they shot down the plane we all could have anti-imperalistily continued to write fantasies about cia plots on our blogs don't write it down in the paper that im mad at the truth
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why would the Iran thing stop us from writing about cia plots that’s literally all the US does in the ME and SA
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Granted, everything is about power politics, including the latest forum meltdown. SA is just a bit weird because unlike most of the internet it seems to be an open battleground where neither side seems to have an advantage.
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lol if you think the investigative pressures of bellingcat made Iran admit they shot down the plane
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lol how bellingcat is training even more people how to follow his half-rear end technically inept way to journalistic investigation.
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I think Iran admitted they shot down the plane because it was the right thing to do.
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cda posted:I think Iran admitted they shot down the plane because it was the right thing to do. they just wanted to the taunt the US with another western failed coup attempt.
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the impeccable internet investigative reporting on mh17 made iran buckle in fear and capitulate immediately imo
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etalian posted:lol how bellingcat is training even more people how to follow his half-rear end technically inept way to journalistic investigation. this makes sense in the context of BM also having been taught by other people on how to do his "geolocation" and weapons identification techniques and he was just used as a way to launder the information through what would look like an organic, citizen-journalism drip-feed he's just passing it on further
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Here's how the conversation probably went. Iran King or whatever they have: Did we shoot down the plane? Other Iran guy: We don't know. IK: Find out for me, will ya? (Three days pass) OIG: Yeah, we did it. IK: Ok, let's tell everyone. Better to admit our mistakes than try to play politics with the lives of Innocents. OIG: Ok. Sounds good.
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excited to see swarms of internet journalists descending upon academic publishers to tell them to censor papers that don't toe the state dept line
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iran used to have a king called the shah and they dont have a king anymore
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iran king is what the cspam IKs should be called
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now to be fair, the nominally elected translated honorific title SUPREME LEADER does sound dystopian
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swimsuit posted:iran king is what the cspam IKs should be called Idiots Knew
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Darth Walrus posted:The Iraqi government went from allied to hostile, and the Mahdi Army is back and allied with Iran. Outside Iraq, Hezbollah has declared that its cold war with the US will go hot, and there'll be one of the traditional, spectacular Iranian revenge attacks coming down the pipeline in a few months or years. None of that is great for America. Hezbollah literally says they're TOTALLY ABOUT TO GO TO WAR with the US or Israel all the time. It's nothing more that a fundraising pitch now that they're begging for scraps at this point. The Iraqi government isn't going to do poo poo, they literally made their "expulsion of American troops" legislation nonbinding because once American forces are gone the Iraqi middle classes know they're done.
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https://twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/1216333114340974592quote:Senior Fellow @CarnegieEndow lol we got a talking point
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Chuka Umana posted:Hezbollah literally says they're TOTALLY ABOUT TO GO TO WAR with the US or Israel all the time. It's nothing more that a fundraising pitch now that they're begging for scraps at this point. The Iraqi government isn't going to do poo poo, they literally made their "expulsion of American troops" legislation nonbinding because once American forces are gone the Iraqi middle classes know they're done. You know there's a lot of really stupid analysis like this about how Sunnis don't want the Americans to leave because US soldiers are the only thing between them and Shia dictatorship - even though American forces didn't do anything to stop the government from barrel bombing Fallujah, cutting off utilities and massacring protesters, which all precipitated ISIS. The idea that the United States is doing anything meaningful to keep the lid on Iraq is absolute nonsense.
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comedyblissoption posted:just a reminder that you should not trust a thing belingcat has to say and anyone who works for them is highly compromised https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1214663142828937216 
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Didn’t this guy do “it could happen here” ?
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Centrist Committee posted:Didn’t this guy do “it could happen here” ? yup lol
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i'm rewatching Hypernormalization, and it's hitting me hard how absurd the concept is that if the English speaking world was everyday was occupied by Arab soldiers on their streets, and at the mercy of seemingly random explosions from the sky that could or have killed everyone they love, that many of them wouldn't be so traumatized by the situation that they would desperately hope to violently inflict some small scratch on the foreigners keeping them under heel. even without being told to by their sectarian religious leaders but everyone right of shitliberal in america seemingly thinks that these people should have absolutely zero national pride, or even respect for the lives suddenly snatched away by a dispassionate looming empire. they have no right to fight back against anything ever, because american influence is actually what's good for them, even though it's driven people so unhinged that they become suicide bombers
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Prince Myshkin posted:https://twitter.com/borzou/status/1216317550478405633?s=20 That whole flag on the ground thing is so interesting. Also I mostly lurk this thread but thanks to the posters who explain things like the BM situation.
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Centrist Committee posted:Didn’t this guy do “it could happen here” ? in which he predicted beto o rourke or kamala harris would win the 2020 election and trigger rural reactionaries into blowing up californian highways and cutting off the global supply of pecan nuts
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gh0stpinballa posted:in which he predicted beto o rourke or kamala harris would win the 2020 election and trigger rural reactionaries into blowing up californian highways and cutting off the global supply of pecan nuts Still can't stop literally lmaoing at how brainshatteringly wrong that prediction was, but chances are good that'll happen if Bernie wins 2020 Watcher Bernie start loving white genocide in response 
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