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the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco




Rules As-Written? :shobon:

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Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Rotary Autocannons Win

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

the yeti posted:

Rules As-Written? :shobon:

Yeah. The tabletop game suffers from late 80s game design pretty badly because it tried to be a "realistic simulation" and have an actual written rule for every possibly scenario (want to pick up and throw a five-ton sack of rice with a BattleMech? There's rules for that!)

Alpha Strike is a much better game and the new BattleTech RPG rules (currently in closed beta) are incredibly solid and playable rather than the overdesigned mess A Time of War was, so I'm glad CLG is finally taking steps into the 21st century. HBS BattleTech sparking new interest in the series was the best thing to happen to tabletop in decades. :swoon:

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



PoptartsNinja posted:

The tabletop game suffers from late 80s game design pretty badly

Dude I've followed your BTech threads since the beginning, that's an understatement. I've only played about two hours of the original TT total but it's good to hear there's a revamped ruleset in testing.


Content: My atlas stole some cues from Nier, I think



Edit:

Darius: "Your escorts will stick close for protection"
Escortee: *races ahead*
Escortee: "We're killing our engines til you come back"
Escortee: *races ahead*

the yeti fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jan 19, 2020

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

So glad they switched to actual art for portraits instead of computer portraits that look worse than stuff from EVE Online 10 years ago.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009
So playing the campaign for the first time and I got a Marauder. This seems a little ridiculously overpowered. 4 large lasers, 35% chance each of scoring a headshot equals a lot of dead, perfectly salvageable assaults.

novaSphere
Jan 25, 2003

Most of the new stuff from HM is pretty OP, to be fair. But the Marauder is basically cheating, yes.

Throne of Bhalz
Dec 11, 2003

I almost beat the base game at launch but somehow burned out near the end. I remember the last thing I did was opening some vault on an ice planet and the BIG mechs unlocking. Thinking about diving back in with expansions. Is there a logical way to do this? i.e. Should I just go back in, beat the base game, and then buy the expansions, or would it be smarter to just unlock them all before going back in?

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

PJOmega posted:

So playing the campaign for the first time and I got a Marauder. This seems a little ridiculously overpowered. 4 large lasers, 35% chance each of scoring a headshot equals a lot of dead, perfectly salvageable assaults.

On top of that it also reduces all incoming damage to your entire lance by 10-25% due to how the game's rounding works!

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Throne of Bhalz posted:

Should I just go back in, beat the base game, and then buy the expansions, or would it be smarter to just unlock them all before going back in?

The expansions augment career mode primarily. That said, I prefer career mode to the campaign.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Would I need to start a new campaign to see the new mech variants in the upcoming patch or will they just show up?

Last Transmission
Aug 10, 2011

RBA Starblade posted:

Would I need to start a new campaign to see the new mech variants in the upcoming patch or will they just show up?

New Mechs have always just started appearing in all my saves so far. So all signs point to no.

Negative_Earth
Apr 18, 2002

BeiiN AlL ii CaN B
Are the three DLCs worth getting? I've finished the campaign, and was curious about the new mechs/scenarios for a Career run. Steam reviews has them as "mixed".

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

The DLC is worth it, imo. Heavy Metal in particular adds a lot of new mechs and weapons.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

What's the best way to outfit a Marauder? I was browsing through the steam forums and people seem to think a single UAC/5 plus a couple ML's is perfect if you have a sniper piloting it. I ran this last mission and it worked pretty well but feel like the accuracy on the UAC was generally pretty poo poo.

Rorahusky
Nov 12, 2012

Transform and waaauuuugh out!

explosivo posted:

What's the best way to outfit a Marauder? I was browsing through the steam forums and people seem to think a single UAC/5 plus a couple ML's is perfect if you have a sniper piloting it. I ran this last mission and it worked pretty well but feel like the accuracy on the UAC was generally pretty poo poo.

If you want to Mega-cheese a Marauder, equip it with a -Tonnage Gauss Rifle and ER Medium Lasers, and then just always Called Shot the head. You'd be surprised at how many decapitations you can get.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

explosivo posted:

What's the best way to outfit a Marauder? I was browsing through the steam forums and people seem to think a single UAC/5 plus a couple ML's is perfect if you have a sniper piloting it. I ran this last mission and it worked pretty well but feel like the accuracy on the UAC was generally pretty poo poo.

I'm doing well with triple UAC/2+++ and one LL while I hunt for ERMLs.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



In the vanilla game I have glitch w/ called shot mastery riding one with 3 AC/5s and an LLas and she’s an executioner in it.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Jedit posted:

I'm doing well with triple UAC/2+++ and one LL while I hunt for ERMLs.

This sounds real good.

Called shot is not something I can do to a standing mech, right?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

explosivo posted:

This sounds real good.

Called shot is not something I can do to a standing mech, right?

Of course it is. It just isn't free, the way it is for a downed mech.

Throne of Bhalz
Dec 11, 2003

PoptartsNinja posted:

The expansions augment career mode primarily. That said, I prefer career mode to the campaign.

So should I just start career over with expansions installed? I'm fine with that if so. Game good.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Jedit posted:

Of course it is. It just isn't free, the way it is for a downed mech.

Ah I totally forgot that the precision strike thing existed tbh. :doh:

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Throne of Bhalz posted:

So should I just start career over with expansions installed? I'm fine with that if so. Game good.

:eng101: Don't worry about the career mode time limit, you just get some free gear based on your score when time expires. You can keep playing indefinitely after that.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

sean10mm posted:

:eng101: Don't worry about the career mode time limit, you just get some free gear based on your score when time expires. You can keep playing indefinitely after that.

This should probably be posted on every page.

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

I finished the Heavy Metal campaign!

I also lost a fuckload of my best equipment and a 10/10/10/10 pilot! It's going to take ages for me to replace all that Gauss ammo and Double Heatsinks. That final battle does not gently caress around.

:shepicide:

Horace Kinch fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jan 20, 2020

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

So I installed BT 3062 and everything is now insanely slow. The menu, loading, etc. Everything has slowed to a crawl. What the hell?

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

And Tyler Too! posted:

I finished the Heavy Metal campaign!

I also lost a fuckload of my best equipment and a 10/10/10/10 pilot! It's going to take ages for me to replace all that Gauss ammo and Double Heatsinks. That final battle does not gently caress around.

:shepicide:

Yeah but it's the best one in the game

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

sean10mm posted:

:eng101: Don't worry about the career mode time limit, you just get some free gear based on your score when time expires. You can keep playing indefinitely after that.

The free gear doesn't matter at all either unless you high score it and even then probably not

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Holy poo poo I just got my first headshot OHK :flashfap:

Koorisch
Mar 29, 2009

explosivo posted:

Holy poo poo I just got my first headshot OHK :flashfap:

That's how I got my first Atlas early when I had no good heavies and max salvage on. :cool:

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Koorisch posted:

That's how I got my first Atlas early when I had no good heavies and max salvage on. :cool:

It's super satisfying breaking the difficulty curve in half by getting an Atlas or King Crab in like month one because one of your pilots is a superstar

Purr Objectives
Mar 3, 2017

Live fast, die young, and leave a beautiful corpse.
Lucked out and got a 3/3 Hatchetman in an early career mission :getin:

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

I got BT3068 working properly and.....all of my attacks miss forever. This is just Roguetech in disguise. God loving damnit.


Edit: Yep this modpack has CBT rules as a forced module. Uninstalled in record time.


Can someone recommend a mod that adds a ton of content but doesn't force tabletop's lovely rules down my throat?

Horace Kinch fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jan 20, 2020

The Last Call
Sep 9, 2011

Rehabilitating sinner

Negative_Earth posted:

Are the three DLCs worth getting? I've finished the campaign, and was curious about the new mechs/scenarios for a Career run. Steam reviews has them as "mixed".

They are definitely worth getting, it's a shame you missed out on the Christmas discount but even so they are a huge plus to the overall game.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

And Tyler Too! posted:

I got BT3068 working properly and.....all of my attacks miss forever. This is just Roguetech in disguise. God loving damnit.


Edit: Yep this modpack has CBT rules as a forced module. Uninstalled in record time.


Can someone recommend a mod that adds a ton of content but doesn't force tabletop's lovely rules down my throat?

Battletech Extended 3025 nerfs accuracy a bit but otherwise it's as close to vanilla as you get.

KoldPT
Oct 9, 2012
Is there any way to hunt for a particular chassis in shops? I'm at 3/4 of the CN9-AL and that's all i'm missing to finish off Mediums. Asaults I can wait and farm 5* missions for, but I don't want to do any more lower star missions if I can

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


KoldPT posted:

Is there any way to hunt for a particular chassis in shops? I'm at 3/4 of the CN9-AL and that's all i'm missing to finish off Mediums. Asaults I can wait and farm 5* missions for, but I don't want to do any more lower star missions if I can

According to this likely outdated wiki, look for worlds with the tags Manufacturing and Rich.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Rorahusky posted:

If you want to Mega-cheese a Marauder, equip it with a -Tonnage Gauss Rifle and ER Medium Lasers, and then just always Called Shot the head. You'd be surprised at how many decapitations you can get.

This is how I set mine up, minus ERMLAS and plus jump jets. Put it in a nice vantage point and spam precise shot and watch the salvage roll in.

Norton the First
Dec 4, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
I have spent no less than nine million C-bills now buying up Griffin 2Ns on the black market just to strip out their double heat sinks. As a bonus I get to have mechs that work OK in the restricted tonnage missions. Overall, good value!

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Baron Porkface
Jan 22, 2007


How do Clan Warship crew have a trial of position?

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