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Shinjobi posted:It is laughable and bad to anyone who actually paid attention to the Cowboys Garrett won games with Dak as his QB. Imagine what he can do with a real NFL quality QB like... Daniel Jones?
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Ches Neckbeard posted:It's already starting lol Is it me or has the trend of new coaching hires picking their own GM/boss really exploded in the last few years?
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Garrett was supposedly stripped of offensive playcalling duties years ago. Not a great trait for your future OC.
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Garrett's ceiling is being as good as Pat Shurmur
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sean10mm posted:Garrett was supposedly stripped of offensive playcalling duties years ago. Not a great trait for your future OC.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Is it me or has the trend of new coaching hires picking their own GM/boss really exploded in the last few years? The explicit coach/GM was in vogue until about 2010 and it seems like the GM who works for the coach model has mostly replaced it
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sean10mm posted:Garrett was supposedly stripped of offensive playcalling duties years ago. Not a great trait for your future OC. Not only that, but at one point didn't they divide it between a Passing Game OC and a Running Game OC? Like, how many people do you need to add to your staff to compensate for Jason Garrett?
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Garrett hasn’t had play calling duties since the 2012 season. Bill Callahan called the plays in 2013 and 2014. Scott Linehan called plays in 2015-2018 and Kellen Moore called plays in 2019. When Garrett was calling plays, a non-trivial amount of dallas’ offensive yards came from two minute drills and such where Romo called the shots on the field in a hurry up fashion.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Garrett hasn’t had play calling duties since the 2012 season. Bill Callahan called the plays in 2013 and 2014. Scott Linehan called plays in 2015-2018 and Kellen Moore called plays in 2019. He also seemed to have problems getting the plays called in in time.
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DO IT GETTLEMAN! https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1219768169612660736
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The goddamn a-team of g-men
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Giants aren't content with how much more of a laughing stock they are than the Jets apparently
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Love my A+ name cool RB coach You know your team is trash when your offseasons highlight is a positional coach that looks like a mennonite. gently caress can he run though.
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Jan 22, 2020 02:11
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Stump Mitchell is a tier 1 name though
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If we’re going with lovely Cleveland castoffs, let’s just go balls deep and get Hue Jackson and fully embrace the coming years of steaming, wonderful bullshit.
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fartknocker posted:If we’re going with lovely Cleveland castoffs, let’s just go balls deep and get Hue Jackson and fully embrace the coming years of steaming, wonderful bullshit. Yeah, gently caress it, let's go balls deep in poo poo. Can't get any worse, right? 
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BlindSite posted:Stump Mitchell is a tier 1 name though The Browns are a tier 32 franchise.
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the giants simply want to tank for a very specific player that is currently in their sophomore year of high school, advanced strategy at play
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razorscooter posted:the giants simply want to tank for a very specific player that is currently in their sophomore year of high school, advanced strategy at play How long till Rivers eldest kid is eligible?
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Oh no, a failed head coach is going to be the Giants offensive quality control coach or some other minor nonsense. Obviously this will be a major failure of epic proportions.
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Usually guys get to be head coaches because they did pretty well at some aspect of the game. Failing to be a head coach doesn’t automatically make them football retards.
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yeah except Garret and Kitchens very clearly are that
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davecrazy posted:Usually guys get to be head coaches because they did pretty well at some aspect of the game. So is your position here that the Giants are making smart moves this off season out of curiosity?
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Freddie had success with someone else's playbook then flopped spectacularly when left to his own devices. He did well at working the good ol boy system that is NFL position coaching.
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Freddy Kitchens as TE coach or whatever the gently caress he’ll be doing makes the team no better or worse then some 32 year coach nobody has ever heard of who’s last job was assistant o-line coach at bumfuck state.
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davecrazy posted:Freddy Kitchens as TE coach or whatever the gently caress he’ll be doing makes the team no better or worse then some 32 year coach nobody has ever heard of who’s last job was assistant o-line coach at bumfuck state. So guys rise to the position of head coach by being good at some other, lower ranking job, but also those lower ranking jobs don't matter and you can staff them with any idiot?
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davecrazy posted:Usually guys get to be head coaches because they did pretty well at some aspect of the game. Yes, and then there's Freddie Kitchens...
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If the Giants suck again it’s not going to be because of anything Kitchens did or didn’t do. He won’t have that kind of power in his role. If he can bring whatever competency he showed that got him to be considered a for a head coaching spot in the first place then all the better, but I still doubt it’ll make a substantial impact one way or another. Garret you can make an argument for but I’m interested to see what he can do calling plays for this offense which has decent skill players especially that he no longer needs to worry about that whole running the entire team thing any more.
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Didn't the Cowboys slowly strip him of responsibility because he proved to be such a gently caress up?
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Hunt11 posted:Didn't the Cowboys slowly strip him of responsibility because he proved to be such a gently caress up? yes and giants fans refuse to acknowledge that this was a real thing that happened they are so desperately trying to spin jason garrett's worthless rear end into a positive
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fartknocker posted:How long till Rivers eldest kid is eligible?
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Hunt11 posted:Didn't the Cowboys slowly strip him of responsibility because he proved to be such a gently caress up? As I posted earlier, he hasn’t called plays since 2012. When he did call plays, a non-trivial amount of Dallas’ offense was Romo running a hurry up and calling plays at the line. Jason Garrett play calling is run on first. Short pass/run on second. Screen/draw on third and long that will only get two of the seven yards needed.
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Shinjobi posted:yes and giants fans refuse to acknowledge that this was a real thing that happened As a Giants fan, Jason Garrett sucks poo poo and the Giants hiring is yet another in a long line of baffling, idiotic decisions by the Giants front office.
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Chichevache posted:The Browns are a tier 32 franchise. all the more reason to get better where you can. like the name department
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I always thought he was a good OC, enough he got HC gigs. Good pickup.
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indigi posted:yeah except Garret and Kitchens very clearly are that To his credit Garret was once a very well thought of OC, he famously spurned the Ravens who have a great track record with coaches at all levels. It could be he’s just unable to manage the rest of the responsibilities and he’s still good at calling plays. Wouldn’t be the first time, Norv was/is the poster child for this. I mean I doubt it of course but if I were a Giant’s fan this is what I’d be telling myself.
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