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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Quick, now let's relitigate the Holodomor and this thread will really start going good places

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Thank god the only non fascists in history, the Soviets, never forcibly resettled or starved ethnic minorities out of fear they might betray their beloved non-fascist overlords once the Germans came.

Because if that happened, you would look like a total idiot.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
Genocide, invented by and unique to fascism.
World history consists of socialists and fascists and started in the 19th century.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


"I will never compromise with fascism" I say as I awkwardly invade Poland in accordance with my treaty with a fascist country.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

AlexanderCA posted:

Racial laws and colonies predate the existence of fascism and even the nation state. You realize fascism is a actual political movement with defining characteristics and a historical origin era right?

Yes and for whatever reason you seem to think that America, Britain and its settler colonies, and France were somehow not developing during this historical era, that they did not influence its development and weren't themselves fascist. That fascism isn't a facet of decaying capitalist imperialism and is instead just an ideal movement with no material basis.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
So yeah, anything that isn't socialism is fascism. Got it. In fact from the dawn of time until the October revolution, only fascism.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

AlexanderCA posted:

So yeah, anything that isn't socialism is fascism. Got it. In fact from the dawn of time until the October revolution, only fascism.

"We are all fascists now." - V.I. Lenin

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I hate Karl Marx for inventing fascism, on account of being a writer writing under capitalism.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

AlexanderCA posted:

So yeah, anything that isn't socialism is fascism. Got it. In fact from the dawn of time until the October revolution, only fascism.

Uh yeah the exact opposite of what I just wrote, but sure. Fascism is synonymous with 'late stage capitalism.'

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
The most prominent form of fascism, Communism

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Yes and for whatever reason you seem to think that America, Britain and its settler colonies, and France were somehow not developing during this historical era, that they did not influence its development and weren't themselves fascist. That fascism isn't a facet of decaying capitalist imperialism and is instead just an ideal movement with no material basis.

now i'm just confused as to why you would describe America from 1920-present as decaying, given it spans the period of America's greatest international power and ideological influence.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
*decays all over collapsed soviet union*

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Not America itself. Capitalism is in a state of constant decay. Its internal contradictions can be assuaged, but capitalist crises are inevitable and increasing in tempo and volume. It will end with either our destruction or its.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
Prophecies are dumb.

Seriously I can't be the only one weirded out by the religious undertones of extremely online socialists?

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

AlexanderCA posted:

Prophecies are dumb.

Thank Christ that climate change is not real then. What a wild wacky dream.

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



Lmao is that a new redtext or was it there all along?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1219729521122869251

Welp

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

Guys I'm beginning to think the guy whose rap sheet includes pro-Tiananmen Square massacre posts may not be arguing in good faith.
lol

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
End this derail.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013


MBS is quite the guy, its true.

Hannibal Rex
Feb 13, 2010

Herstory Begins Now posted:

It's pretty common that people in charge of massively sadistic power structures are fairly benevolent personally.

You guys might want to look up narcisstic sociopaths, because it's they easiest thing for them to be charming and affable in order to manipulate people.

I agree that calling such people 'monsters' is more a hindrance than a help in understanding them, but having no conscience or empathy is a defining characteristic, so don't kid yourselves that bloody dictators or cartel bosses are 'just people like everyone else.'

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

nothing says 'please come invest in saudi' more than how the actual leadership of that country will personally attack you and hack you over any slight.

but really, I dont know what will come of this other than a personal feud. like, what will the fallout be? what could Bezos do? as long as trump and kushner hold power MBS is safe.

Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jan 22, 2020

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

Al-Saqr posted:

nothing says 'please come invest in saudi' more than how the actual leadership of that country will personally attack you and hack you over any slight.

but really, I dont know what will come of this other than a personal feud. like, what will the fallout be? what could Bezos do? as long as trump and kushner hold power MBS is safe.

Depends on whether The Orb is on AWS or not I guess.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Count Roland posted:

MBS is quite the guy, its true.

Despite the lack of trees in Saudi Arabia, he’s one hell of a lumberjack.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Al-Saqr posted:

nothing says 'please come invest in saudi' more than how the actual leadership of that country will personally attack you and hack you over any slight.

but really, I dont know what will come of this other than a personal feud. like, what will the fallout be? what could Bezos do? as long as trump and kushner hold power MBS is safe.

He's going to fund his own candidate for president to get revenge eventually. Because that's the world we live in now, where the rich nakedly buy power to direct entire nations to fight their personal feuds for them. Just like the good old days.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
If you're going to be hacked by the Saudis then you'd better hope they're talking about your phone and not your body.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Being hacked by the king is an honor.

stephenthinkpad fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jan 22, 2020

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

rich assholes stealing each other's nudes is extremely my poo poo

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Your honor the prosecution would like to introduce further evidence that we live in the worst cyberpunk dystopia, except the clerk has informed us that there literally isn't room for any more

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

stephenthinkpad posted:

Being hacked by the king is an honor.

Bezos should be glad, the last time MBS hacked someone, it was with a bone saw.

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!
https://twitter.com/deangloster/status/1219821221405024256?s=20
He's almost certainly going to just refuse to abide by Congress's edicts, so I expect the House to just keep impeaching Trump over and over until the election.
edit: the date is so small and I guess I missed this story six months ago!

Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jan 22, 2020

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Helsing posted:

If you're going to be hacked by the Saudis then you'd better hope they're talking about your phone and not your body.

:golfclap:

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

https://twitter.com/SinaToossi/status/1220070442389688320

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

"Master Negotiator"

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

https://twitter.com/attackerman/status/1220512623185350657

The Saudis forced his dad to fly from Saudi Arabia to San Diego, no doubt to use him to kidnap the son, but the FBI intercepted them in LAX and had them board a return flight.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

enraged_camel posted:

https://twitter.com/attackerman/status/1220512623185350657

The Saudis forced his dad to fly from Saudi Arabia to San Diego, no doubt to use him to kidnap the son, but the FBI intercepted them in LAX and had them board a return flight.

jesus loving christ it's a pretty interesting day when other governments can abduct people on US Soil.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



There are pretty significant protests in Iraq right now against US troop presence

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

FlamingLiberal posted:

There are pretty significant protests in Iraq right now against US troop presence

On a related note:

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1220454642620018689?s=21

https://twitter.com/regatta1001/status/1220696339606130688?s=21

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
So the US is trying to pull a Churchill?

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