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KirbyKhan posted:Yeah, don't let nobody tell you she said Nakers or Knickers or whatever. Mmm yes easy mistake to make given Kobe’s well-known affiliation with New York sports teams spanning his entire career. I wonder how long this newscaster will keep digging before she shuts up and/or gets canned.
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it's so easy to confuse new york and los angeles, they have so many similarities
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Midjack posted:Mmm yes easy mistake to make given Kobe’s well-known affiliation with New York sports teams spanning his entire career. It hurts so bad. I've lived here in Los Angeles for 7 years. Kobe has been here since the 90's. Comparing MY CITY to the Knick's is not digging up out. Emotionally frayed cuz I just saw video of Kobes helicopter going down on someone's insta story. It is truely tragic, my nephew went to a basketball camp that was boosted by After School All Stars. Dude was genuinely good. Great. Of all time.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 01:35 |
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It was super weird because I went to Monster Jam with my friends because we figured it'd be a fun thing to do for ten bucks. Anyways, I went to the bathroom at some point and a friend sent me a text telling me Kobe died in a helicopter crash, so queue me running up to my friends at Monster Jam with ear pro on yelling "Hey, Kobe's dead!" and then like a dozen people in that section pulling out their phones to check. Weird loving day.
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KirbyKhan posted:Comparing MY CITY to the Knick's is not digging up out. I was being sarcastic, of course Kobe was only ever with LA. I expect the newscaster to make increasingly unlikely excuses for how she could have accidentally said what she said until she gets sanctioned for it.
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Handsome Ralph posted:It was super weird because I went to Monster Jam with my friends because we figured it'd be a fun thing to do for ten bucks. Did the trucks do that thing where they run up a wall and do a backflip?
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 01:45 |
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I've been having a lot of OSINT Twitter's come up as recs (guess from following some think tank people)does anyone know ones that are considered reputable or at least not nuts or a certain countries internet research agency project?
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 01:45 |
jjmcnab
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 01:47 |
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Having a messed up slip like that is one of my secret fears.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 01:53 |
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Fallom posted:Did the trucks do that thing where they run up a wall and do a backflip? Yes, and I uniroincally enjoyed it.
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Smiling Jack posted:jjmcnab Thanks!
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@jjmcnab is a really good read, Jack, thanks for that. More rocket attacks on the U.S. presence in Baghdad: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/26/politics/rocket-hits-us-embassy-compound-baghdad/index.html
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 02:51 |
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Breaking: Mike Pompeo is full of poo poo; water still wet. Film at 11. https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...6617_story.html quote:By
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 02:51 |
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Shiiiit seeing 9 dead now in the crash according to LAtimes
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 03:14 |
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Coronavirus number go up. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/china-virus-toll-spikes-80-2700-cases-confirmed-200127004443733.html quote:China said on Monday that the death toll from a deadly outbreak of coronavirus jumped to 80 as the hard-hit province of Hubei announced 24 new fatalities, while total confirmed cases nationwide rose sharply to 2,744.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 03:21 |
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I don’t think the flu is getting knocked off its pedestal anytime soon, but we have a wannabe contender who’s showing off and needs crushing swiftly.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 03:36 |
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Kobe Bryant atc comms were released. Pilot error — reporting flying at 1400’ under visual flight rules despite local weather reporting overcast conditions at 1100’. Pilot flew them into high terrain that had a peak of 1600’
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bloops posted:Kobe Bryant atc comms were released. Pilot error — reporting flying at 1400’ under visual flight rules despite local weather reporting overcast conditions at 1100’. Pilot flew them into high terrain that had a peak of 1600’ gently caress. I did not expect a CFIT.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 04:06 |
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That audio/radar is loving rough. Another pilot flying as they see fit.
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Icon Of Sin posted:I don’t think the flu is getting knocked off its pedestal anytime soon, but we have a wannabe contender who’s showing off and needs crushing swiftly. Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of info on who it is that's in the mix of fatalities, save that it looks like it's the usual suspects: people that were already compromised in one way or another, be it due to age or pre-existing conditions. Though there's been reports of this year's flu taking out what appeared to be otherwise healthy individuals in the 20-30s age range, so who knows. Either way, it's still not flu numbers, and this year's was a doozy. Get your flu vaccines.
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Godholio posted:gently caress. I did not expect a CFIT. Lithobraking is the last thing I thought of as well, considering the constant helicopter lust for human blood.
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mlmp08 posted:That audio/radar is loving rough. Explain this to me please, because most of the really disturbing atc comms I've heard from crashes were usually much more obviously distressing to me as an layman than these. In every other comms I've listened to, there was repeated ATC feedback to the pilot that they may be doing something they shouldn't be doing and probably should adjust their decision-making with varying degrees of urgency. In this audio feed, the pilot constantly relays his altitude (which, I gather, was too low for either the conditions he was flying in?), but until almost the end of the recording there wasn't a single mention of him being too low, and even when it came, it was only because he was too low for "flight following" (?) or some such. I mean, I'm aware that every aviator is responsible for conducting themselves responsibly to the conditions aware to them AND the regulations at every point, but I figured the recording would have included a lot more "Hey, uh, 2EX, you're hot-dogging it a bit there, you sure you don't want to come back to a safer altitude?" I can't really tell at all what the pilot was doing wrong from the recording itself, especially if I didn't know he was too low to begin with.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:
You've pretty much hit the nail on the head here. What you're hearing is someone utterly failing to understand their situation until it was too late.
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from the gbs china thread
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ded posted:from the gbs china thread
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Explain this to me please, because most of the really disturbing atc comms I've heard from crashes were usually much more obviously distressing to me as an layman than these. The weather report from the nearest airport said overcast at 1100 feet and 2.5 miles visibility at the surface. The hills they crashed into were at 1600 feet. They were flying visually.
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hobbesmaster posted:The weather report from the nearest airport said overcast at 1100 feet and 2.5 miles visibility at the surface. The hills they crashed into were at 1600 feet. They were flying visually. 2.5 miles seems like plenty of distance to avoid flying into a hill. Were they flying in the clouds yet saying they were still in VFR?
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 05:45 |
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I didn't know there were hills in Calabasas that was higher than 700'. Edit: poo poo, I was thinking of the wrong area. Edit 2 : Holy poo poo, no matter what direction he was going, if he was under 1600 he was going to hit something. fromoutofnowhere fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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Fallom posted:2.5 miles seems like plenty of distance to avoid flying into a hill. Were they flying in the clouds yet saying they were still in VFR? yes
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Fallom posted:2.5 miles seems like plenty of distance to avoid flying into a hill. Were they flying in the clouds yet saying they were still in VFR? That's kinda the angle I was coming from. My layman's understanding is that the pilot was repeatedly confirming that he was flying via eyeball (and probably should have said that he can't see poo poo if that was the case), and at some point, it could have occurred to ATC to say "uh, our numbers say you shouldn't be seeing poo poo at that altitude based on weather reports" FAUXTON posted:yes Ah, okay, so pilot overconfidence in territory they thought were familiar with despite being in poo poo conditions that should have compelled them to not be an idiot, got it.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 05:50 |
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Are you guys telling me that Kobe's pilot flew them into the hill because of bad visibility
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:18 |
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Because if you are I will loving go mental
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MrMojok posted:Are you guys telling me that Kobe's pilot flew them into the hill because of bad visibility This 100% appears to be what happened.
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MrMojok posted:Are you guys telling me that Kobe's pilot flew them into the hill because of bad visibility This is exactly what happened. Visibility over 1100 feet was bad to nonexistent, pilot was flying at 1400, hills in the area are as high as 1600. Literal textbook CFIT
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:20 |
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From what it seems like, it was more a lack of acknowledging bad visibility than sudden bad visibility jumping out of a bush and shanking you in the rear end.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 06:21 |
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i woke up and read the news since i work nights hit me in the gut. gently caress that pilot.
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fromoutofnowhere posted:I didn't know there were hills in Calabasas that was higher than 700'. I'm reading that the terrain in that area goes up to 3000' meaning safe altitude if you pop into a cloud is pull up to 5000'. Soooooo yeah
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Duzzy Funlop posted:From what it seems like, it was more a lack of acknowledging bad visibility than sudden bad visibility jumping out of a bush and shanking you in the rear end. "it'll be fine, I've flown this route three times a day for the last six years" is a dangerous, incredibly common mindset. Eej posted:I'm reading that the terrain in that area goes up to 3000' meaning safe altitude if you pop into a cloud is pull up to 5000'. Soooooo yeah If you look at the topographic map of the area, the hills definitely go higher than 1600. Looking at the flight radar data, the helicopter was at 1350 feet altitude, going 161 knots at its last transponder communication. The end of the flight radar route isn't the exact crash location, but it's pretty rugged terrain and all of a sudden having a mountain goat in the same cloud bank as you isn't a far fetched scenario. Memento fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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Alright, I will be the idiot here. If visibility is bad, and you are flying a helicopter in these conditions, why can you not take the helo 2000' feet above the highest known terrain feature?
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