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Complications
Jun 19, 2014


:decorum:

What kind of monster would advocate politicizing such a serious, sober topic, especially as people effected by it are everywhere? Seriously, the Democrats don't politicize or use loving anything as ammunition, why would anyone expect them to start? Getting personal is mostly the Republicans' schtick and as we all know the ~perfectly rational~ electorate rewards the high road.

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Oct 9, 2005


Complications posted:

:decorum:

What kind of monster would advocate politicizing such a serious, sober topic, especially as people effected by it are everywhere? Seriously, the Democrats don't politicize or use loving anything as ammunition, why would anyone expect them to start? Getting personal is mostly the Republicans' schtick and as we all know the ~perfectly rational~ electorate rewards the high road.

lol the whole reason we have an impeachment in a Republican-controlled senate is to politicize it

Eulogistics
Aug 30, 2012
There's something ridiculously funny about "Trump was sharing the gospel with that porn star", its like some poo poo you would see on an episode of Leave It To Beaver: "I wasn't doing anything untoward with Stephanie, we were reading the Bible together, honest!"

Chin Strap
Nov 24, 2002

I failed my TFLC Toxx, but I no longer need a double chin strap :buddy:
Pillbug

Eulogistics posted:

There's something ridiculously funny about "Trump was sharing the gospel with that porn star", its like some poo poo you would see on an episode of Leave It To Beaver: "I wasn't doing anything untoward with Stephanie, we were reading the Bible together, honest!"

Babylon Bee is Christian Onion. It is satire.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Trump lawyer's firm steered millions in donations to family members, files show
theguardian.com/27 Jun 2017

[Old but useful]:

"More than 15,000 Americans were losing their jobs each day in June 2009, as the US struggled to climb out of a painful recession following its worst financial crisis in decades.

But Jay Sekulow, who is now an attorney to Donald Trump, had a private jet to finance. His law firm was expecting a $3m payday. And six-figure contracts for members of his family needed to be taken care of.

Documents obtained by the Guardian show Sekulow that month approved plans to push poor and jobless people to donate money to his Christian nonprofit, which since 2000 has steered more than $60m to Sekulow, his family and their businesses."

Jay Sekulow's Christian Nonprofit Under Investigation by 2 States for Paying Family Millions
christianpost.com/June 29, 2017

[Useful url repost.]

Ernst, Grassley become active participants in Trump's obstruction
bleedingheartland.com/Jan 22 2020
"U.S. Senator Joni Ernst told Iowa reporters in October that if articles of impeachment were referred to the Senate, she would “evaluate the facts” as a “jurist.”

Senator Chuck Grassley voted to allow deposition of witnesses in President Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial, explaining at the time he was supporting “a tightly disciplined legal process to get the information needed to help clear up important discrepancies on the record. Witnesses will not be called simply for the sake of calling witnesses. Seeking this information is important to a process that is judicious.”

Yet Iowa’s senators joined all of their Republican colleagues on January 21 to prevent senators from examining any documents the White House is withholding and from hearing any witness testimony about President Donald Trump’s conduct."

Not His First Cover-Up: Trump Legal Team Lawyer Jay Sekulow
rightwingwatch.org/January 21, 2020
"In 2018, Sekulow was forced to admit that he had misled the public regarding a statement issued under the name of Donald Trump Jr. regarding the purpose of ​a​ 2016 Trump Tower meeting that ​Trump Jr. and other campaign officials had with Russian operatives​ in hope of obtaining “dirt” on his rival, Democrat Hillary Clinton. Sekulow ​claimed that the president had nothing to do with writing the statement, only to walk that back when contradicted by the president himself. “Over time, facts develop​,” ​Sekulow said in his own defense. Last spring, Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer and fixer, told members of Congress that Sekulow had told him to lie ​to Congress about​ the fact that the Trump Organization continued to engage in negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow​even as Trump campaign figures met with Russian operatives. Sekulow denied ​”editing” Cohen’s congressional testimony, as Cohen, who is now in prison for lying to Congress, described it.

More recently, revelations from the House Intelligence Committee and Lev Parnas, who is implicated in the Trump administration’s alleged scheme to find smear material in Ukraine about Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, have placed Sekulow in the middle of team Trump’s machinations in Ukraine. It turns out that Sekulow told former Trump attorney John Dowd that the president was OK with Dowd representing Parnas and his business partner Igor Fruman, undercutting Trump’s claims not to know Parnas. Sekulow was also named in a text by Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney, as the person who could secure a visa for the corrupt Ukrainian former prosecutor, Viktor Shokin.

Trump Impeachment Lawyer Jay Sekulow Supports Criminalizing Homosexuality and Scammed Millions from the Poor
back2stonewall.com/13 hours ago

Trump to American Troops in Iraq: Your Brain Injuries Aren’t That Bad
motherjones.com/7 hours ago
'President Donald Trump downplayed the possible traumatic brain injuries suffered by nearly a dozen US troops earlier this month after Iran fired missiles at two military bases in Iraq. “I heard that they had headaches, and a couple of other things,” he told reporters at the World Economic Forum in Davos. “But I would say, and I can report, that it is not very serious.”'

Trump-appointed judge rules trans people have no right to be called by their personal pronouns
lgbtqnation.com/January 16, 2020
"In an 11-page ruling issued yesterday, Trump-appointed Judge Kyle Duncan of U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals deadnamed a trans inmate and denied her request to have her female name used on her incarceration records. He also denied her request to have prison guards use female pronouns when referring to her."

Eric Trump Says Democrats 'Can't Stand' His Father Because He Is 'Independently Successful'
newsweek.com/1/21/20
....
'"My father is not one of them, he's not a swamp creature," the Trump Organization boss said. "My father's been independently successful. He doesn't need this job, and that's why they can't stand him."'

Mike Pence speaks at church event where bishop delivers vicious anti-LGBTQ sermon
lgbtqnation.com/January 21, 2020
'Mike Pence delivered remarks at a church where an anti-LGBTQ pastor said that homosexuality is caused by “a demonic spirit” and is wrong because of “plumbing,” and the White House livestreamed his homophobic comments.

Pence said nothing in response.'

Boris Johnson defeated as House of Lords votes to reunite lone refugee children with families
thelondoneconomic.com/January 21, 2020
"The Government has been heavily defeated in the Lords as peers backed a move to ensure the rights of unaccompanied child refugees to be reunited with their families in the UK post-Brexit."

Donald Trump caught making crude comments about women
youtube.com/Fox News/Oct 7, 2016
[Lots of yammering online about how "Demoncrats" wanted to impeach the orange poo poo smear from the beginning. Yep, and why, from FOX news, lest they forget.]

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Chin Strap posted:

Babylon Bee is Christian Onion. It is satire.

Oops, sorry, my fault. Didn't recognize it as such.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Troops complain of headache from cruise missile atack

Donald trump: drink water and take a lap

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Look it's just a headache from a ballistic missile. It's nothing serious. Now, bone spurs? Those are serious.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Troops complain of headache from cruise missile atack

Donald trump: drink water and take a lap

I am pretty sure you meant to say take a nap but I think I like your version better, that he is calling them out for being weak and that they need to tough it out.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/at-least-9-people-being-tested-for-coronavirus-in-alameda-county/

9 people in California being tested for Coronavirus, who have recently traveled to Wuhan or been in contact with someone who has, and currently has a fever or cough.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Hunt11 posted:

I am pretty sure you meant to say take a nap but I think I like your version better, that he is calling them out for being weak and that they need to tough it out.

Nah, lap specifically.

Mil-folks will realize this is specifically said by NCOs to privates etc. rub dirt on it, drink water, take a lap, etc

RasperFat
Jul 11, 2006

Uncertainty is inherently unsustainable. Eventually, everything either is or isn't.

Chin Strap posted:

Babylon Bee is Christian Onion. It is satire.

Don’t you dare besmirch the Onion by comparing it to the Bee.

The Onion is solid comedy doing what it’s supposed to do.

The Bee is lame in-jokes for regular church goers that mixes in a healthy dose straight up fascist Republican propaganda.

It’s a trash publication and if you know anyone reading it you should shame them for it. It should honestly be included in lists of dangerous right wing media to be avoided.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Sodomy Hussein posted:

lol the whole reason we have an impeachment in a Republican-controlled senate is to politicize it

We have an impeachment in a Republican-controlled senate because Pelosi caved under the slightest pressure immediately and sent the articles of impeachment to the Senate. Republicans want to exonorate the president, get the subject over with and off the table so they can return to their regular talking points.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Lambert posted:

We have an impeachment in a Republican-controlled senate because Pelosi caved under the slightest pressure immediately and sent the articles of impeachment to the Senate. Republicans want to exonorate the president, get the subject over with and off the table so they can return to their regular talking points.

Pelosi wanted to keep Bernie away from Iowa as much as possible.

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene

Shbobdb posted:

Pelosi wanted to keep Bernie away from Iowa as much as possible.
It's this.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Fox News Judge Says Any GOP Senator Who Told Trump He'll Be Acquitted Is 'Unworthy of Sitting as a Juror' In Impeachment Trial
newsweek.com/1/23/20
"Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said there is more than enough evidence for the Senate to remove Donald Trump from office, insisting that any Republican senator who has told the president he will be acquitted is "unworthy of sitting as a juror" during the trial."

Republicans complain about the impeachment trial’s lack of new evidence while blocking new evidence
vox.com/ Jan 23, 2020
"As Democratic impeachment managers made the case against President Donald Trump on Wednesday and Thursday, Republican senators rolled out a rationale for their future vote to acquit: that the trial is a waste of time because Democrats aren’t presenting new evidence."

Lindsey Graham screeches at reporters over impeachment: Trump ‘did nothing wrong in his mind’
rawstory.com/January 23, 2020
'Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), a close ally of President Donald Trump, on Thursday complained that the president’s impeachment trial should end quickly because the American people “need a break.”

'“I love Joe Biden but I can tell you if the name was Trump, there would be a lot of questions asked,” Graham said moments before House managers were expected to argue for the impeachment of President Donald Trump. “I want the public to understand, the claim Democrats are making — there’s no there there.”

According to Graham, if Trump “thought he was doing something wrong, he would probably shut up about it.”
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“The president believes that the Ukraine interfered in out election,” Graham continued. “I can tell you without any doubt it was the Russians who hacked into the DNC. It was not the Ukrainians. I cannot say that there was nobody in the Ukraine that had worked with [Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort] that did a number on him. I don’t know.”

“All I can tell you is from the president’s point of view, he did nothing wrong in his mind,” the South Carolina Republican insisted.

When it came to calling Joe and Hunter Biden as witnesses, Graham said that he preferred to “end this thing sooner rather than later.”

“I want the American people to pick the next president, not me,” he added. “And so I think the best thing to happen is to have oversight of Ukrainian potential misconduct and move on to the election. I am not going to use my vote to extend the trial.”

“The country needs a break from this,” Graham said. “If you think there’s a whistleblower problem, we can deal with that outside impeachment.”'

[Lindsey needs more fidget spinners or maybe some nappy time. Fox video included in article, also on youtube: https://youtu.be/2BKJGwLPapU ]

Louisiana Senator Shamefully Ignores Constitution, Walks Out of Impeachment Trial
bigeasymagazine.com/January 23rd 2020
"Despite making public assurances that he would fulfill their Constitutional obligations as impartial jurors in President Trump’s impeachment trial, Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy joined a large number of GOP Senators in leaving the Senate Chambers for prolonged periods of time, while crucial evidence was introduced against the President."

Trump scrambles after accidentally sharing Social Security plan
pewforum.org/01/24/20
'After years in which Donald Trump assured the public that he’d never cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid, the president adopted a different posture this week. Asked by CNBC’s Joe Kernen whether “entitlements” would ever end up on his plate, Trump replied, “At some point they will be…. And at the right time, we will take a look at that.”'

White House Broadcasts Blatantly Homophobic Sermon Attended by Mike Pence
truthout.org/January 23, 2020
'The White House streamed a homophobic church service attended by Vice President Mike Pence on Sunday, during which a preacher claimed that a “demonic spirit” is behind homosexuality.'

A Third of French People Think New Holocaust Could Happen in U.S.: Poll
newsweek.com/1/22/20

What Americans Know About the Holocaust
pewforum.org/January 22, 2020

Greta Thunberg hits back after Mnuchin says she should study economics in college
cnbc.com/Jan 23 2020
'“My gap year ends in August, but it doesn’t take a college degree in economics to realise that our remaining 1,5° carbon budget and ongoing fossil fuel subsidies and investments don’t add up,” the 17-year-old said via Twitter.'

Not welcome: Gay students, parents are denied service in Florida’s publicly funded voucher schools
orlandosentinel.com/Jan 24, 2020
"Once again, Orlando Sentinel reporters peered behind the curtains of Florida’s unchecked voucher-school system to see how $1 billion worth of public money is being used.

And once again, what they found was ugly."

In 7 Days and 3 Protests, the Nation’s Divisions on Glaring Display
nytimes.com/Jan. 24, 2020

Hundreds of thousands protest US troop presence in Iraq
cnn.com/January 24, 2020

France’s Macron Advances Pension Overhaul, Despite Protests
wsj.com/Jan. 24, 2020

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
After Trump’s Acquittal, It Will Only Get Worse for Republicans
bloomberg.com/January 26, 2020
"Accepting the president’s corruption is one thing. Enabling the erosion of democracy is another."

Joni Ernst becoming public face of Trump's impeachment defense
bleedingheartland.com/
"All Republicans in the U.S. Senate are so far presenting a united front to defend President Donald Trump against any full examination of the charges against him. But more than most of her colleagues, Iowa’s Senator Joni Ernst is becoming the public face of Trump’s defense."

Steve King Is Building a Dank Fascist Meme Stash
nymag.com/Jan. 23, 2020
"Steve King doesn’t have much going for him. The Republican congressman from Iowa barely won reelection in 2018 and the leaders of his own party reportedly consider him a liability. King can only blame himself for the sorry state of his political career. He’s aligned himself with white nationalists at home and abroad. “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?” he asked, rhetorically, in a 2019 interview with the New York Times. King has repeatedly retweeted far-right activists, including the British neo-Nazi Mark Collett, and met with members of an Austrian far-right party with “historical links” to Nazism during a trip to Europe, the Washington Post reported in 2018. The same year, he endorsed Faith Goldy, a Canadian conservative who has said that her country is experiencing “white genocide” and who repeated the 14 words, a white-nationalist slogan, on a radio show, in her race for Toronto mayor. (Goldy lost.)"

9 Migrant Parents Arrive at LAX to Reunite With Children After Being Separated Since 2018
ktla.com/January 23, 2020
"The reunion was a powerful reminder of the lasting effects of Trump's separation policy, even as attention and outrage has faded amid impeachment proceedings and tensions with Iran. But it also underscored the fact that hundreds, potentially thousands, of other parents and children are still apart nearly two years after the zero-tolerance policy on unauthorized border crossings took effect."

Longview presentation shows how quilts served as 'Morse code' for slaves seeking freedom
news-journal.com/Jan 25, 2020
"Long before Navajo code talkers in World War II and the advent of secured phone lines and encrypted emails, American slaves used quilts hung from windowsills and clotheslines as a signal to others to help them escape to the North for freedom."

Drag queens are planning a massive protest at the Missouri state capitol
lgbtqnation.com/January 24, 2020
'Missouri Republican Ben Baker has introduced legislation that could imprison librarians who host a drag queen story hour or allow youth to check out books on LGBTQ topics.

Drag queens, who don’t tend to back down from bullies, are now planning a massive protest at the state capitol and they’re putting out the call for queens from around the nation to join them “to show Ben Baker and the legislature this kind of bill is just bad policy.”'

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries He Sought, Bolton Book Says
nytimes.com/Jan. 26, 2020

["The president’s statement as described by Mr. Bolton could undercut a key element of his impeachment defense: that the holdup in aid was separate from Mr. Trump’s requests that Ukraine announce investigations into his perceived enemies, including former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, who had worked for a Ukrainian energy firm while his father was in office."]
....
["Since Mr. Bolton’s statement, White House advisers have floated the possibility that they could go to court to try to obtain a restraining order to stop him from speaking. Such an order would be unprecedented, but any attempt to secure it could succeed in tying up his testimony in legal limbo and scaring off Republican moderates wary of letting the trial drag on when its outcome appears clear.'']

'President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former adviser, John R. Bolton.

The president’s statement as described by Mr. Bolton could undercut a key element of his impeachment defense: that the holdup in aid was separate from Mr. Trump’s requests that Ukraine announce investigations into his perceived enemies, including former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and his son Hunter Biden, who had worked for a Ukrainian energy firm while his father was in office.

Mr. Bolton’s explosive account of the matter at the center of Mr. Trump’s impeachment trial, the third in American history, was included in drafts of a manuscript he has circulated in recent weeks to close associates. He also sent a draft to the White House for a standard review process for some current and former administration officials who write books.

Multiple people described Mr. Bolton’s account of the Ukraine affair.

The book presents an outline of what Mr. Bolton might testify to if he is called as a witness in the Senate impeachment trial, the people said. The White House could use the pre-publication review process, which has no set time frame, to delay or even kill the book’s publication or omit key passages.

Over dozens of pages, Mr. Bolton described how the Ukraine affair unfolded over several months until he departed the White House in September. He described not only the president’s private disparagement of Ukraine but also new details about senior cabinet officials who have publicly tried to sidestep involvement.

For example, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo acknowledged privately that there was no basis to claims by the president’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani that the ambassador to Ukraine was corrupt and believed Mr. Giuliani may have been acting on behalf of other clients, Mr. Bolton wrote.

Mr. Bolton also said that after the president’s July phone call with the president of Ukraine, he raised with Attorney General William P. Barr his concerns about Mr. Giuliani, who was pursuing a shadow Ukraine policy encouraged by the president, and told Mr. Barr that the president had mentioned him on the call. A spokeswoman for Mr. Barr denied that he learned of the call from Mr. Bolton; the Justice Department has said he learned about it only in mid-August.

And the acting White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, was present for at least one phone call where the president and Mr. Giuliani discussed the ambassador, Mr. Bolton wrote. Mr. Mulvaney has told associates he would always step away when the president spoke with his lawyer to protect their attorney-client privilege.

ImageMarie L. Yovanovitch, the former United States ambassador to Ukraine, testified that she was “devastated” that the president vilified her.
Marie L. Yovanovitch, the former United States ambassador to Ukraine, testified that she was “devastated” that the president vilified her.Credit...Anna Moneymaker/The New York Times

During a previously reported May 23 meeting where top advisers and Senator Ron Johnson, Republican of Wisconsin, briefed him about their trip to Kyiv for the inauguration of President Volodymyr Zelensky, Mr. Trump railed about Ukraine trying to damage him and mentioned a conspiracy theory about a hacked Democratic server, according to Mr. Bolton.

Charles J. Cooper, a lawyer for Mr. Bolton, declined to comment. The White House did not provide responses to questions about Mr. Bolton’s assertions, and representatives for Mr. Johnson, Mr. Pompeo and Mr. Mulvaney did not respond to emails and calls seeking comment on Sunday afternoon.

Mr. Bolton’s submission of the book to the White House may have given the White House lawyers direct insight into what Mr. Bolton would say if he were called to testify at Mr. Trump’s impeachment trial. It also intensified concerns among some of his advisers that they needed to block Mr. Bolton from testifying, according to two people familiar with their concerns.

The White House has ordered Mr. Bolton and other key officials with firsthand knowledge of Mr. Trump’s dealings not to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry. Mr. Bolton said in a statement this month that he would testify if subpoenaed.
Executive Privilege

In recent days, some White House officials have described Mr. Bolton as a disgruntled former employee, and have said he took notes that he should have left behind when he departed the administration.

Mr. Trump told reporters last week that he did not want Mr. Bolton to testify and said that even if he simply spoke out publicly, he could damage national security.

“The problem with John is it’s a national security problem,” Mr. Trump said at a news conference in Davos, Switzerland. “He knows some of my thoughts. He knows what I think about leaders. What happens if he reveals what I think about a certain leader and it’s not very positive?”

“It’s going to make the job very hard,” he added.

The Senate impeachment trial could end as early as Friday without witness testimony. Democrats in both the House and Senate have pressed for weeks to include any new witnesses and documents that did not surface during the House impeachment hearings to be fair, focusing on persuading the handful of Republican senators they would need to join them to succeed.

But a week into the trial, most lawmakers say the chances of 51 senators agreeing to call witnesses are dwindling, not growing.

Democrats, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senator Chuck Schumer, the minority leader, said the Bolton manuscript underscores the need for him to testify, and the House impeachment managers demanded after this article was published that the Senate vote to call him. “There can be no doubt now that Mr. Bolton directly contradicts the heart of the president’s defense,” they said in a statement.

Republicans, though, were mostly silent; a spokesman for the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, declined to comment.

Mr. Bolton would like to testify for several reasons, according to associates. He believes he has relevant information, and he has also expressed concern that if his account of the Ukraine affair emerges only after the trial, he will be accused of holding back to increase his book sales.

Mr. Bolton, 71, a fixture in conservative national security circles since his days in the Reagan administration, joined the White House in 2018 after several people recommended him to the president, including the Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson.

But Mr. Bolton and Mr. Trump soured on each other over several global crises, including Iranian aggression, Mr. Trump’s posture toward Russia and, ultimately, the Ukraine matter. Mr. Bolton was also often at odds with Mr. Pompeo and Mr. Mulvaney throughout his time in the administration.

Key to Mr. Bolton’s account about Ukraine is an exchange during a meeting in August with the president after Mr. Trump returned from vacation at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. Mr. Bolton raised the $391 million in congressionally appropriated assistance to Ukraine for its war in the country’s east against Russian-backed separatists. Officials had frozen the aid, and a deadline was looming to begin sending it to Kyiv, Mr. Bolton noted.

He, Mr. Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper had collectively pressed the president about releasing the aid nearly a dozen times in the preceding weeks after lower-level officials who worked on Ukraine issues began complaining about the holdup, Mr. Bolton wrote. Mr. Trump had effectively rebuffed them, airing his longstanding grievances about Ukraine, which mixed legitimate efforts by some Ukrainians to back his Democratic 2016 opponent, Hillary Clinton, with unsupported accusations and outright conspiracy theories about the country, a key American ally.

Mr. Giuliani had also spent months stoking the president’s paranoia about the American ambassador to Ukraine at the time, Marie L. Yovanovitch, claiming that she was openly anti-Trump and needed to be dismissed. Mr. Trump had ordered her removed as early as April 2018 during a private dinner with two Giuliani associates and others, a recording of the conversation made public on Saturday showed.

In his August 2019 discussion with Mr. Bolton, the president appeared focused on the theories Mr. Giuliani had shared with him, replying to Mr. Bolton’s question that he preferred sending no assistance to Ukraine until officials had turned over all materials they had about the Russia investigation that related to Mr. Biden and supporters of Mrs. Clinton in Ukraine.

The president often hits at multiple opponents in his harangues, and he frequently lumps together the law enforcement officials who conducted the Russia inquiry with Democrats and other perceived enemies, as he appeared to do in speaking to Mr. Bolton.

Mr. Bolton also described other key moments in the pressure campaign, including Mr. Pompeo’s private acknowledgment to him last spring that Mr. Giuliani’s claims about Ms. Yovanovitch had no basis and that Mr. Giuliani may have wanted her removed because she might have been targeting his clients who had dealings in Ukraine as she sought to fight corruption.

Ms. Yovanovitch, a Canadian immigrant whose parents fled the Soviet Union and Nazis, was a well-regarded career diplomat who was known as a vigorous fighter against corruption in Ukraine. She was abruptly removed last year and told the president had lost trust in her, even though a boss assured her she had “done nothing wrong.”

Mr. Bolton also said he warned White House lawyers that Mr. Giuliani might have been leveraging his work with the president to help his private clients.

At the impeachment trial, Mr. Trump himself had hoped to have his defense call a range of people to testify who had nothing to do with his efforts related to Ukraine, including Hunter Biden, to frame the case around Democrats. But Mr. McConnell repeatedly told the president that witnesses could backfire, and the White House has followed his lead.

Mr. McConnell and other Republicans in the Senate, working in tandem with Mr. Trump’s lawyers, have spent weeks waging their own rhetorical battle to keep their colleagues within the party tent on the question of witnesses, with apparent success. Two of the four Republican senators publicly open to witness votes have sounded notes of skepticism in recent days about the wisdom of having the Senate compel testimony that the House did not get.

Since Mr. Bolton’s statement, White House advisers have floated the possibility that they could go to court to try to obtain a restraining order to stop him from speaking. Such an order would be unprecedented, but any attempt to secure it could succeed in tying up his testimony in legal limbo and scaring off Republican moderates wary of letting the trial drag on when its outcome appears clear.'

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
That's pretty huge.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx-lFAVygSQ

Grouchio fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Jan 27, 2020

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
You were funnier when all you did was ask us to write your essays for you.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe




Nice subtle funeral music, there

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
‘She will lose my vote’: Maine voters tell MSNBC they’re ready to kick Susan Collins out of office
rawstory.com/9 hours ago

Republicans fear "floodgates" if Bolton testifies
axios.com/13 hours ago

If John Bolton doesn’t testify, it’s a coverup, not a trial
washingtonpost.com/Jan. 27, 2020 at 3:30 p.m. CST

Surprise, Mr. President. John Bolton Has the Goods.
nytimes.com/nytimes.com/

Here We Have It. The Trump Impeachment Smoking Gun.
bloomberg.com/January 27, 2020, 6:40 AM CST
"A report about a book by John Bolton makes the president’s Republican defenders look like liars and fools. Maybe they’ll be fine with that."

Trump officials and backers to flood Iowa on Caucus Day
desmoinesregister.com/Jan. 27, 2020
"President Donald Trump's reelection campaign is mustering governmental muscle as it tries to turn out Republican voters next month in Iowa.

With most of the attention focused on the battle for the Democratic nomination, Trump's campaign is announcing what it is calling an “unprecedented” surrogate operation, with more than 80 supporters fanning out across the state the day of its kickoff caucuses on Feb. 3."

["more than 80 supporters"]

Photos show the horrors of Auschwitz, 75 years after its liberation
businessinsider.de/16 Stunden
"It was the greatest tragedy of the Holocaust. In just five years, over one million people were murdered at Auschwitz, the largest and deadliest Nazi concentration camp."

Hunting of polar bears must be banned if species has any chance of survival, expert warns
mirror.co.uk/27 JAN 2020

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
John Bolton holding the keys to the future direction of the US is something I never thought would happen.

Well, okay, him sending the US into another stupid pointless war would probably count, but we all expected that.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Giuliani furious Democrats want testimony from Bolton but not him: ‘They are afraid of my physical presence’
msn.com/1 day ago
'The former New York mayor was upset Tuesday that Democrats are leaving him in the cold while pressing for John Bolton to be called as a witness at President Trump’s Senate impeachment trial.

“They have indicated in every way possible they are afraid of my physical presence,” Giuliani told the Daily News as part of a string of overnight texts. “They know I know what they are covering up. Why do they want Bolton if not me if they can prove their lies. Again I really should stop wasting my time.”'

Protesters swarm Capitol Hill demanding more impeachment witnesses
thehill.com/01/29/20
'Hundreds of protesters took to Capitol Hill on Wednesday to demand more witnesses and evidence at President Trump’s impeachment trial in the Senate.

Capitol Police said they arrested 41 demonstrators, charging most of them with crowding, obstructing or incommoding.

The demonstration involved groups such as Public Citizen, Women’s March, Center for Popular Democracy Action, Stand Up America, March for Truth, Demand Justice and the Poor People’s Campaign.

Protesters first met for a silent protest in the Hart Senate Building before moving to Capitol Building’s steps.

“The Republicans are rigging this trial and the one force that could actually change this equation is the power of the people coming out in the streets and demanding witnesses, demanding evidence and demanding conviction and removal,” said Rafael Kadaris, a protester with RefuseFacism.org.'

Impeachment sparks student activism
tcnjsignal.net/January 28, 2020
'Marian Carcel, who was a 21-year-old college student during the Watergate Scandal, remembers being proud to watch her generation speak out against former President Richard Nixon’s corruption.

“Everybody was very much aware of what was going on, and not happy,” she said. “This attitude extended beyond campus.”'

Why Bother Protesting When the President Doesn’t Care?
thenation.com/October 15, 2019
"Richard Nixon told everyone he was indifferent to demonstration—but he was actually obsessed."
....
'President Richard Nixon would not be influenced by protest—or so he insisted. “I understand that there has been and continues to be opposition to the war in Vietnam,” he stated at a press conference in September 1969. “As far as this kind of activity is concerned, we expect it, however under no circumstances will I be affected whatever by it.”

A few weeks later, reiterating his imperviousness to popular pressure, Nixon argued that “to allow the government policy to be made in the streets would destroy the democratic process.”'
....
'On April 20, 1969, envelope manufacturer Jerome Grossman stood up at a meeting of Massachusetts Political Action for Peace and called for a nationwide general strike in October if the war in Vietnam had not ended by then. In subsequent months, a number of young organizers—including Sam Brown, David Hawk, David Mixner, and Marge Tabankin—jumped on the idea. Refashioning it in more moderate terms as a Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam, they called for a temporary halt in business as usual to show public disapproval of the war, and they envisioned actions in communities across the country. They also set a date: Wednesday, October 15.'
....
"...envelope manufacturer Jerome Grossman...."
....
"In the age of Donald Trump, protesters once again face a president who claims to be impervious to criticism and responsive only to his far-right base, though he may more accurately be characterized as thin-skinned and reactive. Attention to the conditions of his Republican predecessor’s undoing—and the role of public protest in forming those conditions—has therefore taken on new relevance."
....
"More important than how Nixon personally responded to protests is the manner in which anti-war activism helped to set the terms of public debate. Specifically, it helped make outright support for expanding the war in Vietnam a lethal proposition for almost any politician. In early 1965, when the first national demonstration was being organized, opposition to the Vietnam War was barely on the radar of the Democratic Party, for both its elected officials and its base of voters. By the time of the Moratorium, it was likely the central issue. Polls that in March 1966 showed two-to-one support for American involvement in Vietnam had virtually flipped by September 1969, with nearly 60 percent of the public saying the war was wrong. "

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
‘I respectfully disagree on that’: Pence explains in Iowa diner he doesn’t support protecting Medicaid and Medicare
rawstory.com/January 30, 2020
'Vice President Mike Pence stopped at the Drake Diner in Des Moines, Iowa Thursday night around 5 p.m. CDT when he was confronted by Michigander Dr. Rob Davidson.

Davidson explained that he is part of the Committee to Protect Medicare and he was concerned about the administrations position on Medicare and Medicaid.

“I respectfully disagree on that,” Pence told him, according to Wall Street Journal reporter Andrew Restuccia, who was traveling with the vice president.'
....
'"Trump has consistently worked to cut Medicaid, particularly when it comes to people with disabilities.

During the 2016 election, Trump promised that he wouldn’t make any changes to Medicare or Social Security, but he told friends last year that his “second-term project” may be to cut the program.

While Trump was at the billionaire conference in Switzerland, Trump was asked by CNBC whether he was willing “to do some of the things that you said you wouldn’t do in the past, though, in terms of Medicare,”'

#ArrestRandPaul trends on Twitter after he walks out over impeachment question
msn.com/3 hrs ago
"The hashtag #ArrestRandPaul started trending Thursday after the Kentucky Republican walked out of the Senate because Chief Justice John Roberts wouldn't read his impeachment question.

Sen. Paul's question during the impeachment trial proceedings of President Donald Trump had to do with "whether or not individuals who were holdovers from the Obama National Security Council and Democrat partisans conspired with Schiff staffers to plot impeaching the President before there were formal House impeachment proceedings," he said in a tweet Thursday.

When Roberts blocked his question, Paul walked out of the Senate and read it aloud to reporters behind a podium before tweeting it out. Paul has named the alleged whistleblower before and has repeatedly urged that the tipster be outed publicly."

New data shows economic growth far short of Trump’s boasts, promises
msnbc.com/01/30/20

'It's Been Hell': Inside the Town Where Trumpers Are Building a Private Wall
vice.com/Jan 28 2020
"A sleepy South Texas town is facing environmental destruction as a citizen-funded wall gets erected."
....
"Donald Trump made building a border wall—and forcing Mexico to pay for it—a central theme of his 2016 campaign. While his administration has made it much harder for migrants, particularly asylum seekers from Central America, to cross into the U.S., construction of additional physical barriers has mostly stalled; Trump’s promise of 450 new miles of his border wall by the end of the year now appears far-fetched, as the project has been snagged by various lawsuits and complications. But the administration’s wall isn’t the only wall. Either as a demonstration of loyalty to the president or, in the case of one developer, a bid for lucrative government contracts, some private citizens are furiously erecting their own barriers along the Southwest border."

A Kentucky Republican With a Gay Son Wants to Ban Conversion Therapy
advocate.com/January 30 2020
'“I think it’s religion gone bad,” Kerr said of conversion therapy in a recent interview with Louisville TV station WHAS.

Being gay “can’t be fixed and it shouldn’t be fixed,” she said. “In my Christian faith, I am taught that we are all fearfully and wonderfully made, wonderfully made, and I believe that very strongly.” She has two sons, age 33 and 31; the younger one is gay."'

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
"It's Their Lifeline": Video of ER Doctor Confronting Mike Pence Over Trump Medicaid Cuts Viewed 1 Million+ Times
commondreams.org/January 31, 2020
'An emergency physician Thursday night confronted Vice President Mike Pence at a restaurant in Iowa over the Trump administration's newly unveiled plan to allow states to block-grant Medicaid, a move that could strip essential healthcare coverage from millions of vulnerable people.

"I work in one of the poorest counties in Michigan and my patients depend on expanded Medicaid, so how is that going to affect my patients?" Dr. Rob Davidson asked Pence at Drake Diner in Des Moines, where the vice president made an unscheduled stop.

Pence expressed surprise, claiming he "hadn't heard about cuts to Medicaid," even though the White House plan was announced to widespread outrage just hours earlier.'

The Long, Uneasy Wait Is Over: Parties, Protests And Solemn Silence Greet Brexit
npr.org/January 31, 2020
"By this reporter's very rough tally, NPR has run well over 1,000 pieces about Brexit -- both on air and online — since the U.K. shocked the world with its vote to leave the European Union more than 3 1/2 years ago. And not one of those stories could responsibly utter this simple, definitive statement: Brexit is happening today."

Multiple Arrests Reported At Anti-Police, Anti-MTA Fare Protest Amid Acts Of Subway Vandalism
cbslocal.com/January 31, 2020
"The demonstration was organized by a group that called across social media for a mass sabotage of the MTA."

Cop-hating protesters cause chaos, vandalism in city’s subway system
nypost.com/January 31, 2020
"Cop-hating radicals wreaked havoc on New York City’s subways on Friday — vandalizing turnstiles, station walls and buses to protest a police crackdown on turnstile jumping.

The agitators — who want police completely out of the subways and transit to be free — secured emergency gates open with bike locks, zip-ties and violin strings, rendered turnstiles useless with glue and spray paint and littered buses, stations and trains with ““F–k cops, f–k MTA,” “Free transit ” and other anti-cop, anti-MTA messages"

The irresistible resiliency of Iraq’s protesters
brookings.edu/January 31, 2020
"Iraq’s protest movement has been remarkably resilient. For months now, tens of thousands of Iraqis across Baghdad and the south have mobilized against the government, demanding better services, accountability, and wholesale reform of the Iraqi state. Since the protests erupted, more than
600 have been killed and thousands more have been injured, according to human rights organizations. The fallout over Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani’s assassination was expected to signal the death-knell of the movement, but even that has failed to decisively end what is arguably Iraq’s biggest grassroots socio-political mobilization in history.

Iraqis cannot be blamed for wanting more from their government. Their country is on the brink of a socio-economic implosion as a result of a youth bulge, economic degradation, and dilapidated infrastructure. The country’s population of more than 30 million is expected to reach 50 million in a decade. More than 60% of Iraqis are under 24, and 700,000 require jobs every year. Iraq’s ruling class has failed to respond to the demands of the population and simply no longer has the credibility, much less the capacity, to assuage its population despite the hundreds of billions of dollars that has been expended over the past decade."

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Otteration posted:



Cop-hating protesters cause chaos, vandalism in city’s subway system
nypost.com/January 31, 2020
"Cop-hating radicals wreaked havoc on New York City’s subways on Friday — vandalizing turnstiles, station walls and buses to protest a police crackdown on turnstile jumping.

The agitators — who want police completely out of the subways and transit to be free — secured emergency gates open with bike locks, zip-ties and violin strings, rendered turnstiles useless with glue and spray paint and littered buses, stations and trains with ““F–k cops, f–k MTA,” “Free transit ” and other anti-cop, anti-MTA messages"

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With no context I could still tell that's the Post. loving assholes.

Also props to the enterprising busker that did it with god drat violin strings. That's some good resourcefulness.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Otteration posted:

Cop-hating protesters cause chaos, vandalism in city’s subway system
nypost.com/January 31, 2020
"Cop-hating radicals wreaked havoc on New York City’s subways on Friday — vandalizing turnstiles, station walls and buses to protest a police crackdown on turnstile jumping.

The agitators — who want police completely out of the subways and transit to be free

Public transport should be free.

Not only is it a public good, the taxes the government accrues from the money spent by people using it to go shopping and the increase in earnings from people who now have access to a greater array of employment opportunities more than offsets the cost.

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Public transport should be free.

Not only is it a public good, the taxes the government accrues from the money spent by people using it to go shopping and the increase in earnings from people who now have access to a greater array of employment opportunities more than offsets the cost.
It should be free for residents and commuters who work in the city, but tourists should have to pay imo.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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But then BUMS and PANHANDLERS would ride it all day long :byodood:

mystes
May 31, 2006

Data Graham posted:

But then BUMS and PANHANDLERS would ride it all day long :byodood:
It will be free for anyone making 6+ figures only, and the seats will shock anyone who rides for too long.

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.
Seniors (Ok, Boomer) and low income people get a nice discount in Los Angeles.

I pay 75¢ peak and 35¢ off-peak for the subway and buses.

LIVING THE DREAM.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
It shouldn't be free, that's a dumb idea by people that only commute by car. It should be affordable, but not free.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Lambert posted:

It shouldn't be free, that's a dumb idea by people that only commute by car. It should be affordable, but not free.

Why not?

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



VideoGameVet posted:

Seniors (Ok, Boomer) and low income people get a nice discount in Los Angeles.

I pay 75¢ peak and 35¢ off-peak for the subway and buses.

LIVING THE DREAM.

Make Angels Flight free

Seriously what the hell is that, it’s like a block

VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Data Graham posted:

Make Angels Flight free

Seriously what the hell is that, it’s like a block

That’s a tourist thing? Yes?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Lambert posted:

It shouldn't be free, that's a dumb idea by people that only commute by car. It should be affordable, but not free.

No, it should definitely be free.

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Lambert posted:

It shouldn't be free, that's a dumb idea by people that only commute by car. It should be affordable, but not free.
Nah, ideally it should be free and should just paid through tax schemes. Fare skipping is a legitimate issue as is the legitimate reason people skip fares. Make it free, get the money from taxes, stop bothering poor people for jumping turnstiles in Canarsie for skipping a high fare to subsidize the 2nd Avenue expansion.

The tourist idea would never work though. Too much volume.

VideoGameVet posted:

Seniors (Ok, Boomer) and low income people get a nice discount in Los Angeles.

I pay 75¢ peak and 35¢ off-peak for the subway and buses.

LIVING THE DREAM.
NYC has senior discounting too. Not as much, but it's also a more involved system.

Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Feb 2, 2020

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Fleetwood Crack posted:

It should be free for residents and commuters who work in the city, but tourists should have to pay imo.

Tourists spend huge amounts of money which goes to local businesses which benefits the economy which leads to more tax income.

Free public transport leads to more tourists spending more money which leads to etc.

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