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Okay, I clearly must have misunderstood something about that line of dialogue. I apologize. e: Does anyone recall which episode it was? I want to go back and see what the gently caress I missed. Powered Descent fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Jan 30, 2020 04:39
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dang ole romulans man, i tell you what
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Jan 30, 2020 04:43
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Memory Alpha posted:Georgiou later claimed that Lorca had groomed Burnham, and that Burnham was complicit in his plot. (DIS: "Despite Yourself", "Vaulting Ambition")
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Jan 30, 2020 04:46
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how come nobody smokes weed in star trek
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Jan 30, 2020 05:08
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GolfHole posted:how come nobody smokes weed in star trek N-n-n-narcotics? In our perfect utopian society seen through the scope of middle-age/elderly white males born in the 50 and 60's? Surely you jest! 
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Jan 30, 2020 05:11
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GolfHole posted:how come nobody smokes weed in star trek No one cool joins star fleet op
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Jan 30, 2020 05:14
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why smoke weed when you can inhale beetle
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Jan 30, 2020 05:17
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Jean-Luc, blow up the damned thread!
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Jan 30, 2020 05:17
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Jan 30, 2020 05:21
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Here's some other Hutchs, are they all related? 
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Jan 30, 2020 05:32
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GolfHole posted:how come nobody smokes weed in star trek quote:WESLEY: Data, I can understand how this could happen to the Ornarans. What I can't understand is why anyone would voluntarily become dependent on a chemical. That's why. Tasha wants you to say no to drugs.
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Jan 30, 2020 06:39
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One of those fun things Orville again gets right the casual weed use. Like, if TNG was made today you know they'd be all about those nugs. edit: obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQVc79FE5Bo
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Jan 30, 2020 06:49
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one thing about living on rape gang planet i never could stomach. all the drat druggies.
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Jan 30, 2020 06:58
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Epicurius posted:That's why. Tasha wants you to say no to drugs. Then she died from black tar  .
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Jan 30, 2020 07:01
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There's people who love Star Trek Picard and there's people who hate Star Trek Picard but I think what unites everybody is being glad there's no Wesley in it.
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Jan 30, 2020 07:18
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Jan 30, 2020 07:20
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:There's people who love Star Trek Picard and there's people who hate Star Trek Picard but I think what unites everybody is being glad there's no Wesley in it. What if they had big buff Wesley from that one time jump epsiode?
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Jan 30, 2020 08:18
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Johnny Aztec posted:What if they had big buff Wesley from that one time jump epsiode? It was a Q episode, not a time jump one. Hand in your comm badge. Has anyone ever made an edit of this with the real adult Wil?
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Jan 30, 2020 08:22
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PenisMonkey posted:If the founders are so much better at humanoid faces why do they all walk around with Odoface? They originally did it to make Odo comfortable and show that they're like him, and afterwards realised that Odo was the Alpha Quadrant's first encounter with a Changeling and what they were used to, so they keep that form when they want to present as 'Changeling'.
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Jan 30, 2020 08:40
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I always interpreted it as being also a little bit of a middle finger to Odo for rejecting them - like, we can look like anything but here's how dumb you look when you try. It was really just so the audience didn't get confused
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Jan 30, 2020 08:50
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Humble Bundle currently has a bundle with A shitload of Star Trek comics. Would Mirror Voyager even be trying to get back to the alpha quadrant? That's long after the fall of the Terran Empire and most of humanity isn't doing well back home.
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Jan 30, 2020 09:09
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This includes the TNG Mirror Universe comics "Through the Mirror", "Mirror Broken", and a ST:VOY Mirror Comic: "Mirrors and Smoke". Captain Janeway is a Pirate Queen of the Delta Quadrant.
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Planet of the Apes vs Star Trek comics, huh.
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Jan 30, 2020 09:51
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Neddy Seagoon posted:No he isn't. He's a fine character riiiiight up until a nasty bit of exposition in episode 11 (I think it's 11, maybe 12?) where Empress Georgiou states that Lorca was a "surrogate father to Michael, groomed her [implying for greatness, but still], and when she came of age they became 'something more'". Dude's a bigger grooming pedophile than Neelix. That's the point. I might have worded it bad. Jason Isaacs portrays him so drat perfectly fitting prime universe, hes so cool and stuff but with some dirty secrets. Or mystery. Or something else. And when you find out hes the main mofo and a bad guy from mirror universe all his previous actions fall in place showing him that he actually was behaving like a guy from mirror universe, just without the goatee or moustache but we never knew until the reveal! So 'Lorca is good' means hes written and portrayed perfectly for the role. Not Anthony Hopkins' or even Heath Ledger levels of perfect villain portrayal but indeed very good. Neddy Seagoon posted:Humble Bundle currently has a bundle with A shitload of Star Trek comics. Star Trek vs. Transformers What the actual loving gently caress 
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Jan 30, 2020 10:28
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Dely Apple posted:Planet of the Apes vs Star Trek comics, huh. I reckon someone thought up the joke "The Primate Directive" first and worked from there. AntherUslessPoster posted:That's the point. I might have worded it bad. Jason Isaacs portrays him so drat perfectly fitting prime universe, hes so cool and stuff but with some dirty secrets. Or mystery. Or something else. And when you find out hes the main mofo and a bad guy from mirror universe all his previous actions fall in place showing him that he actually was behaving like a guy from mirror universe, just without the goatee or moustache but we never knew until the reveal! So 'Lorca is good' means hes written and portrayed perfectly for the role. Not a chance in hell. The decision to write the character the way they did permanently tars Lorca as a horrific grooming pedophile, even if it's through a single line that was frankly unnecessary to literally anything in the plot. But there it is now, an elephant forever in the room regarding Lorca  . Especially when literally every aspect of his decisions through the season are functionally wrapped around in that nasty little fact and it's a key aspect of his character as-shown.
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Jan 30, 2020 10:41
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All the Mirror Universe stuff in Discovery sucks poo poo, especially turning Lorca from an aggressive captain running from past mistakes into a paper-thin mustache-twirling cartoon pedophile Trump analogue. Everyone praises the MU stuff as Disco S1 righting the ship, but I honestly think it’s worse than the Klingon stuff.
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Jan 30, 2020 10:51
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Big Mean Jerk posted:All the Mirror Universe stuff in Discovery sucks poo poo, especially turning Lorca from an aggressive captain running from past mistakes into a paper-thin mustache-twirling cartoon pedophile Trump analogue. My thought at first when that all goes down was he was over-playing the Big Villain role so he could find a way to get Discovery on their way back home and keep them safe without tipping his hand to his own MU people, because he's still on their side. But nope, he's just straight stupid cheesy villain backstabbing his friends on Discovery because.... the plot says to?... 
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Jan 30, 2020 10:55
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Neddy Seagoon posted:My thought at first when that all goes down was he was over-playing the Big Villain role so he could find a way to get Discovery on their way back home and keep them safe without tipping his hand to his own MU people, because he's still on their side. But nope, he's just straight stupid cheesy villain backstabbing his friends on Discovery because.... the plot says to?...  His IQ drops by 50 points when they cross over because the plot demands it and it just completely undoes everything the first 2/3rds of the season built up for his character. It’s so aggressively stupid.
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Jan 30, 2020 10:58
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I reckon someone thought up the joke "The Primate Directive" first and worked from there. But it is a perfect display that even a good friend, decent tactician and fighter and exemplary officer can be a hidden nasty fuckface mcfuckingson in disguise. I dunno, I understood it that way and hope we will see real Lorca someday. Or its their general portrayal of 'normal' mirror universe people. [/s]Or they wrote it this way so he gets all the hate he possibly can so they can easily write him off and never remember about his character. [s]Or they tried to hop onto the weinstein case train. Or even that might have been a lie from Georgiou (totally in her character) to throw more shadow on him than needed. Neddy Seagoon posted:My thought at first when that all goes down was he was over-playing the Big Villain role so he could find a way to get Discovery on their way back home and keep them safe without tipping his hand to his own MU people, because he's still on their side. But nope, he's just straight stupid cheesy villain backstabbing his friends on Discovery because.... the plot says to?... Forgot about that. You are right then. I remembered him a bit better. So it indeed was a 'character write-off'. Erulisse fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Jan 30, 2020 11:00
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spoiler tags are supposed to be for things that spoil the series, not expand why it's awful in the first place
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Jan 30, 2020 12:08
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New Concept Hole posted:There's can be Jem'Hadar in Starfleet, but only if they're addicted to small talk. That actually brings up another question: Since genetic engineering other than possibly to cure deadly diseases is banned in the Federation, would they remove the Jem'hadar addiction since they're a genetically engineered species anyway and this is just correcting an earlier crime?
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Jan 30, 2020 12:34
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evilmiera posted:That actually brings up another question: Since genetic engineering other than possibly to cure deadly diseases is banned in the Federation, would they remove the Jem'hadar addiction since they're a genetically engineered species anyway and this is just correcting an earlier crime? As the white was their food, you want to remove their addiction to food?  Do they even have digestive systems to begin with 'curing addiction'?
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Jan 30, 2020 12:43
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AntherUslessPoster posted:As the white was their food, you want to remove their addiction to food? You mean aside from the Jem'Hadar that actually did break their addiction to Ketracel White? evilmiera posted:That actually brings up another question: Since genetic engineering other than possibly to cure deadly diseases is banned in the Federation, would they remove the Jem'hadar addiction since they're a genetically engineered species anyway and this is just correcting an earlier crime? It'd probably get handwaved under the diseases banner as it is an actual chemical addiction they're forced to endure.
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Jan 30, 2020 12:49
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Star Trek vs. Transformers Star Trek TAS, no less! It's pretty fun!
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Jan 30, 2020 12:50
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You mean aside from the Jem'Hadar that actually did break their addiction to Ketracel White? Huh?
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Jan 30, 2020 13:27
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There was an episode with a Jem'Hadar who didn't need the White to live.
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Jan 30, 2020 13:34
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It's explained later in the episode that it was due to a mutation he had, which is probably an indication of how sloppy the Dominion's genetic engineering is if they didn't do anything to catch that.
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Jan 30, 2020 13:39
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I mean they crank out Jem'Hadar by the thousand and are making replacements full-time during the war, if anything mutations seem low.
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Jan 30, 2020 14:21
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There was also the one janked up Weyoun clone that had empathy and tried to stop the war, the dominion churns out clones fast enough that it's probably easier to just deal with mutations as they arise rather than clean up the whole process.
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Jan 30, 2020 14:24
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the big problem with lorca was that he was coded as tough but good, but did a bunch of things that turned out bad, so just seemed badly written then they did the mirror reveal and expected that to fix the whole thing but it still came off as badly written jason isaacs did the best he could with a bad chatacter and i cant think of many actors that could have levelled out that kind of hack writing
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Jan 30, 2020 14:33
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I think I remember reading somewhere that, while season one of Disco was always going to go to the Mirror Universe, the decision for Lorca to also be from there came after scripts had been written and Isaacs had been hired.
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