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This just came up in my youtube feed. https://youtu.be/H6QhjZUM_1k
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I dunno, I don't hate this. It recontextualizes the problematic element into a problematic character trait that the work as a whole no longer endorses. If you're gonna keep it as written, this is probably genuinely the best option. Wouldn't work so well with Growltiger's last stand though... e: Gianthogweed posted:This just came up in my youtube feed. drat What a great and unexpected introduction to what a Manson-style cult is. I also wish it had talked more about MacCavity and his perhaps-staged public denouncement in front of everyone (and denial of the prize) as a warning to the others. Happy Thread fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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This early December (so pre-release) Tom Hooper interview offers some insight into the madness, but raises as many questions as it answers.quote:...this journey specifically started when I was walking through Soho on postproduction on Les Mis seven years ago. I suddenly had a feeling of sadness: Oh, I’ve so enjoyed doing a musical for the first time, and I’ve learned so much. It would be crazy if I never applied that learning curve to something else. That would be crazy indeed, Tom Hooper! So how did you go about applying that learning curve? quote:But there’s also a weird latent eroticism to Cats, right? They’re gyrating and dancing, and it still feels very 1979, 1980, 1981, the era of the original musical and the age of cocaine, disco, and wild, formfitting outfits. I imagine reconciling that notion with the idea of making a family film is a challenge. quote:I like how the scale in Cats never makes any sense. When I first saw the trailer, it sort of bothered me, but now it just adds to the delirium. Sometimes things are comically huge; sometimes they’re a lot smaller than expected. quote:That also speaks to the artificiality of the environment. It all still feels like a set, though not in a bad way. Was there ever a thought to try to make it a more realistic version of London? quote:The cockroach sequence that Andy [Blankenbuehler] choreographed for me so beautifully is obviously our nod to Busby Berkeley. quote:There’s often a very specific visual strategy to each of your films. The King’s Speech had those wide angles and the high head-space framing. And Les Mis had, for example, the Anne Hathaway single-take sequence. Did you make any decisions like that beforehand for something like this? quote:I had this phrase organic cat, which was a sort of non-choreographic cat, i.e., when the cats are moving as cats but in a naturalistic context Indie Rocktopus fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jan 31, 2020 |
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Gianthogweed posted:This just came up in my youtube feed. Oh golly, is it one of those 'CATS is about a death cult' hot takes? Of course it's a death cult, it's London in 1939. Stray cats had a life expectancy of two years and owned cats had their own problems. I'd give the afterlife roulette a spin too.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 01:12 |
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Indie Rocktopus posted:This early December (so pre-release) Tom Hooper interview offers some insight into the madness, but raises as many questions as it answers. Wow, this guy is a massive idiot. "Let's take choreography---you know, that thing that's intrinsic for a physical spectacle show like Cats---and remove it. Oh, and let's have Judi Dench lick her lips in anticipation." Wait, I take it back. This guy is a loving genius. His inability to make that connection means Cats 2019 gives us gif fuel for all of eternity. Bonus cat gif from a good movie:
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 02:15 |
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Don't accuse my movie of being horny! Look I hired Rebel Wilson just so that we wouldn't have to talk about this!!!
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 03:26 |
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It’s rich that he keeps talking about the cockroach number as being like Busby Berkeley when the way it’s filmed completely fails to convey that scope at all. Like a Busby Berkeley number is this combination of stagecraft, intense choreography, and camera tricks/optical effects linked together to just overwhelm you with spectacle and that... so isn’t
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 03:52 |
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Busby Berkeley could only dream of a dance number where a fat gumbie cat eats cockroach people
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 03:56 |
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Busby Berkeley could never even conceive of such a horror
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 04:45 |
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i mean, i don't know, the cockroach thing being a Busby Berkeley homage tracks? his thing was large groups of people in weird costumes doing elaborate synchronized routines, and that's more or less what the cockroach bit is, just with weird body horror added in
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 05:21 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i mean, i don't know, the cockroach thing being a Busby Berkeley homage tracks? his thing was large groups of people in weird costumes doing elaborate synchronized routines, and that's more or less what the cockroach bit is, just with weird body horror added in Yeah but the framing and staging just doesn't get across any of that elaborate spectacle. You just see the cockroaches marching around a bit. A Berkeley routine on film can get really abstract and the photography usually emphasizes the composition of the dancers as a whole, the pattern they create. There's none of that spatial sense because Hooper can't stage a production number to save his life.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 05:41 |
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It's a Bubsy Berkeley homage in the same way that a TV show might have a Bubsy Berkeley homage. There's juuuuust enough to give you an idea of what they're going for, but none of the effort that went into the genuine article.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 06:21 |
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Out-homaged by The Brave Little Toaster.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 06:37 |
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i didn't say it was a particularly good one, i'm just not really surprised to see Hooper saying that because in hindsight it seems kind of obvious
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 06:51 |
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The unzipping of fur will never not be horrifying to me.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 07:33 |
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For me, it's how nonchalantly Jennyanydots eats that roach with the human face, and that the roaches continue their merry dance routine.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 07:47 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFbYLyBi090
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 07:49 |
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BigglesSWE posted:The unzipping of fur will never not be horrifying to me. The unzipping of fur is a difficult matter It isn't just one of your holiday games
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 08:20 |
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Do you all remember the foot fetish scene at the end of Rum Tum Tugger? Now you do!
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 09:13 |
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The cockroach sequence is so plainly unfinished that it's hard to judge, really.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 10:10 |
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The mice are transparently terrified of being eaten on a whim while the cockroaches continue their dance number oblivious to being actively eaten It's amazing
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 11:25 |
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I feel like the mouse design was worse than the cockroaches, though of course we see less of them. Like again, something you'd see in a British children's show. Honestly if they had shot the whole thing with a "BBC in 1981" aesthetic it'd probably work a lot better.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 19:11 |
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A CAT IS NOT A DOG
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 19:25 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:I feel like the mouse design was worse than the cockroaches
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 19:33 |
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caligulamprey posted:It's the children's faces. They shouldn't have brought children into this mess, but they did and now everyone involved has to live with it. There are absolutely going to be Wizard of Oz-style urban legends fifty years from now about what happened to those kids.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 19:54 |
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I;m thinking about thos Cats
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 21:35 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:I feel like the mouse design was worse than the cockroaches, though of course we see less of them. Like again, something you'd see in a British children's show. Here is the Cats 2019 mouse design: just another posted:I;m thinking about thos Cats my face right now
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 21:41 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:Yeah but the framing and staging just doesn't get across any of that elaborate spectacle. You just see the cockroaches marching around a bit. A Berkeley routine on film can get really abstract and the photography usually emphasizes the composition of the dancers as a whole, the pattern they create. There's none of that spatial sense because Hooper can't stage a production number to save his life. "I wanted to make an homage to Steve Reich's music so I held down the E key on my synth for a few hours."
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 21:44 |
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BigglesSWE posted:The unzipping of fur will never not be horrifying to me. I love that it becomes a minor plot point to how the cats on the boat get free.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 00:57 |
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wyoming posted:I love that it becomes a minor plot point to how the cats on the boat get free. It could have been dancing cockroaches that saved them, but Jennyanydots slaughtered them wholesale for by eating them and kicking over their cake stage.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 01:10 |
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just another posted:I;m thinking about thos Cats
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 02:31 |
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Look at this feeble 4th wall breakage at 1m40s and this film calls itself a cat movie ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v34w65U98gI
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 07:13 |
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Bogus Adventure posted:Steven Spielberg's Cats: lol the film was literally financed in no small part by Mr. Spielspurr Dumb Lowtax posted:I'm the extra ring they forgot to edit out on the non-wedding ring hand Meowbe Lady Dame Judi Dench is left-handed LORD OF BOOTY posted:i mean, i don't know, the cockroach thing being a Busby Berkeley homage tracks? his thing was large groups of people in weird costumes doing elaborate synchronized routines, and that's more or less what the cockroach bit is, just with weird body horror added in I always thought it was like an homage to the passion of Tennessee Williams Man Musk fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Feb 1, 2020 |
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T. Hooper posted:I imagine reconciling that notion with the idea of making a family film is a challenge. An erotic family film is either an oxymoron or incest. This guy has no anchor in reality after making some great movies. I think this shows in how Cats has no anchor in reality.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 16:50 |
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far from the most horrifying CG in the film, but remember that shot where James Corden drinks from a comically oversized champagne bottle, and the liquid that pours out is obviously CG and looks like a water effect from an early Xbox 360 game? or Rebel Wilson's feet clipping through the floor of the barge?
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 19:49 |
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Man Musk posted:lol the film was literally financed in no small part by Mr. Spielspurr I guess that explains this shot ThePopeOfFun posted:An erotic family film is either an oxymoron or incest. This guy has no anchor in reality after making some great movies. I think this shows in how Cats has no anchor in reality. Well, he IS the guy who probably heard execs say, "I want you to take this extremely horny musical and make it a fun film for the whole family," and immediately replied, "I can do that no problem."
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Barry Convex posted:shot where James Corden drinks from a comically oversized champagne bottle, and the liquid that pours out is obviously CG and looks like a water effect from an early Xbox 360 game? yeah I specifically remember how it would kinda overflow onto his cheeks and then just sorta stay there/disappear? Like it didn't make his face wet or get onto the ground it was just gone
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 20:31 |
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Bogus Adventure posted:I guess that explains this shot I imagine the dude on the right was told to "act thirsty"
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# ? Feb 2, 2020 01:49 |
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Time to watch CATS again and do a bunch of coke.
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# ? Feb 2, 2020 12:22 |
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The character of Mr. Mistofoles sucks so much in the movie. And it never stops being weird...the cat people. No matter how many times your brain can’t ever settle into these being cats or people and that lurching attempt to process this failed hybrid is such a trip.
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