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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Same. Could be an age thing? I’m 38 now and everyone I knew in the scene when they came out despised them. Just part of that lovely wave of commercialized, MTV2 “punk”. Can totally understand the kids being into them at the time, and everyone’s gonna be nostalgic for the crap they liked as a kid. I know I still am, regardless of how bad a lot of it is.

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Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
I loved MCR when I was 14 and still love them now, a week away from 30. Enjoyment of music is subjective as all hell and I never really understood why people get so fussy about what other people enjoy. Gatekeeping and letting the "scene" influence your opinions on music is just weird and I'm happy I broke myself of it a long time ago, because it has resulted in me drastically expanding my horizons on music and different music genres.

I don't even just ironically or nostalgically enjoy them, I still actively think albums like Three Cheers and Black Parade are genuinely good. (I mean, obviously there's some nostalgia. But you know what I mean.) On the other hand, I was one of those "kids into them at the time", too. So :shrug:

And if you don't like them, that's cool too. Tastes be like that.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
every hook on Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge bops

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

I was never a scene kid or really listened to other emo bands, but I LOVED MCR in high school and college. (Walking into a Hot Topic during that time felt like one of those things I wasn't suppose to do) Been listening to their albums again for a couple months now and yeah. A LOT of it does hold up.

It is surreal to see high schoolers still listening to them today and Hot Topic still selling their merch. This must be what people who were into Pink Floyd when Dark Side of the Moon came out must feel like when younger people still enjoy them.

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Feb 1, 2020

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

Xinlum posted:

https://i.imgur.com/CxOF1Oq.jpg

https://twitter.com/mcrofficial/status/1223395497387360257?s=21

They have been super good about adding tour dates to super instant sold out shows so cross your fingers, but yeah seeing them at a festival with 20 other bands is gonna be the best way to get good value.

People really loved the Scene bands that grew up or changed with their music (MCR, Brand New :smith:) and being basically the same age as the band each new album reflected pretty evenly on the age I was when it dropped (Danger Days Bust Rodd was a bad, bad Bust)

Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Feb 1, 2020

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Danger Days wasnt bad. It was just a massive departure from the other three albums that I dont think everyone knew what to make of it.

Sci-fi concept albums rarely work though.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

BigRed0427 posted:

Danger Days wasnt bad. It was just a massive departure from the other three albums that I dont think everyone knew what to make of it.

Sci-fi concept albums rarely work though.

Coheed & Cambria basically ruined it for everyone else, yeah

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Bust Rodd posted:

https://twitter.com/mcrofficial/status/1223395497387360257?s=21

They have been super good about adding tour dates to super instant sold out shows so cross your fingers, but yeah seeing them at a festival with 20 other bands is gonna be the best way to get good value.

I'm gonna be pissed if they add an Indiana show after I rushed to get myself a spot in Detroit because bands so rarely ever come here, always opting for Michigan and Illinois instead :|

quote:

People really loved the Scene bands that grew up or changed with their music (MCR, Brand New :smith:) and being basically the same age as the band each new album reflected pretty evenly on the age I was when it dropped (Danger Days Bust Rodd was a bad, bad Bust)

BigRed0427 posted:

Danger Days wasnt bad. It was just a massive departure from the other three albums that I dont think everyone knew what to make of it.

Sci-fi concept albums rarely work though.

Danger Days was when I fell off the MCR train for a while. It didn't and still does not have the same charm to it that Three Cheers or Black Parade had to it-- or even Bullets for that matter imo.

I gave it another chance last year and my opinion has solidified on "it's not bad but it feels hollow". It just feels stuff and doesn't have any of the emotional punch that the prior two albums had. Like it's cool, I get that they love comics and nerdy poo poo and Danger Days is a super nerdy album and I appreciate that, but MCR's appeal to me has always been the raw energy of the band tied with Gerard just barfing every ounce of his heart into the lyrics and I think that's just kind of where Danger Days falls flat for me.

I still like Gerard's solo work far more than Danger Days-era MCR and it would be so cool to hear some of that live sometime too.

Framboise fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Feb 1, 2020

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Danger Days reminds me too much of the bad Fallout video games and I’m honestly completely burned out on Post-Apocalypse stuff since that is increasingly becoming reality. I’m not gonna vibe with a concept album if the concept is bad.

“Bonnie & Clyde but Bonnie betrays Clyde so Clyde becomes Spawn and kills mobsters” is cool

“I had a lovely meaningless life and died and discovered my real value and strengths as a dead person” is a cool concept.

Those albums still slap because those themes resonate more than DD.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy

Bust Rodd posted:

Danger Days reminds me too much of the bad Fallout video games and I’m honestly completely burned out on Post-Apocalypse stuff since that is increasingly becoming reality. I’m not gonna vibe with a concept album if the concept is bad.

“Bonnie & Clyde but Bonnie betrays Clyde so Clyde becomes Spawn and kills mobsters” is cool

“I had a lovely meaningless life and died and discovered my real value and strengths as a dead person” is a cool concept.

Those albums still slap because those themes resonate more than DD.

Also this, yeah. Three Cheers and Black Parade just had much stronger concepts.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
RIP to the best punk guitarist ever

https://pitchfork.com/news/gang-of-fours-andy-gill-dead-at-64/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005


For real. I remember the first time I listened to Entertainment!. It was completely different from anything I had heard up to that point and immediately could tell it was special. It still an incredible and timeless album.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Edit: Sorry, wrong thread!

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Feb 2, 2020

Parachute
May 18, 2003
i never knew MCR had that kind of draw because at the time i chose to ignore them with a lot of other bands in that wave of top 40 modern rock charts pop punk because they all felt extremely artificial and poseur-y.

angrygodofjebus
Aug 25, 2005

Drink it up and hunker down
Saw mewithoutYou and Thrice on Friday for the Vheissu 15th anniversary tour and they loving rocked. So much that they had to cancel the next night in Detroit, so good timing for me.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Bust Rodd posted:

Coheed & Cambria basically ruined it for everyone else, yeah

What happened?

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
I probably wouldn't call it punk but I've really been liking this Viagra Boys album, Street Worms

Particularly Worms and Slow Learner

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

Cuntellectual posted:

What happened?

They formed.

Moe_Rahn
Jun 1, 2006

I got a question
why they hatin' on me?
I ain't did nothin' to 'em
but count this money
and put my team on
got my whole clique stunnin'
boy wassup
yeeeeeaaaaaahhhh
It kind of understandably got overshadowed by Andy Gill and I don't know how much this thread fucks with crossover thrash, but Josh Pappe, former bassist of DRI and Gang Green, died a couple days ago. I have a soft spot for DRI's late '80s albums because they were a jumping-off point that I used to get my college metalhead friends into punk.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
Incredibly excited to just listen to this album on repeat for the entire workday tomorrow and then all weekend and probably a month or so past that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYbAW0JlwdQ

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

New Spanish Love Songs sounds great on first listen. I too have been absolutely rinsing Shmaltz lately and this seems like it's quite a bit better......

Pondering a last minute Bristol train trip tonight to see them with The Menzingers and Mannequin Pussy. That's quite the line up.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Junkenstein posted:

New Spanish Love Songs sounds great on first listen. I too have been absolutely rinsing Shmaltz lately and this seems like it's quite a bit better......

Pondering a last minute Bristol train trip tonight to see them with The Menzingers and Mannequin Pussy. That's quite the line up.

It's so good, I got a verse into Routine Pain and had to sit down and think about things.

Bread Dragon
Apr 7, 2012
I'll start with non-egotistical posting: listen to small bands Tuffy, Musclegoose, and Leche.

In egotistical posting, reviews are coming in for my band's first 45

Maximum Rocknroll posted:

This nice looking record has the visual aesthetics of an old PENETRATORS EP I have, or some of the many trashy rock’n’punk discs from the past. Flip it on and while those elements are there, you also get a heaping dose of NWOBHM or classic East Coast or Midwest hard rock like early RIOT. Sorta like a JAY REATARD vehicle hitting dead on with SAXON. Odd but works. “making GBS threads Bricks” is an absolute rager.

Yellowgreenred posted:

New Chicago power-trio here, sporting a flying-V guitar, a spray-painted bed-sheet banner and a song called “Blade Of The Knife”, which to be fair is one of the more obvious blades out there. They make use of that title for a hard-edged riff out of Judas Priest’s playbook and perform it with the gusto of traditional Chicagoan punk rock. “The Holler” stays the course, perhaps splitting the difference between Thin Lizzy and Nashville Pussy, with vocalist/guitarist Steve Henderson screaming out of a throat that’s clearly experienced its share of unfiltered cigarettes. The energy increases on “making GBS threads Bricks”, as does the level of sloppiness, but what can be expected of punks playing NWOBHM licks and having some messy, beer-soaked fun whilst doing so? They’re not called NightNormalPerson, for chrissakes.

Hell yeah. The "Reatards meets Riot" comparison lit us up. Hear it yourself to complain to me at the label's bandcamp.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
The new Envy album is their best since the early 2000s.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Henchman of Santa posted:

The new Envy album is their best since the early 2000s.

I didn't even know it was coming out and it's a pretty goddamn fantastic surprise. Plus Tetsuya Fukagawa is back!

prayer group
May 31, 2011

$#$%^&@@*!!!

Whoa, this rips! If I heard Blade of the Knife at a bar I'd be whipping beers at dudes' heads out of pure animal reflex. I say this with all the love in my heart for Sheer Mag: it sounds like what most of the guys in Sheer Mag wish they were playing instead.

This is total nerdlinger dweeb poo poo compared to that, but Australian Coneheads-worshippers R.M.F.C. put out a split EP with similarly devolved Sydney eggheads Set-Top Box last month and it is just hooky as the dickens. R.M.F.C.'s half is pretty immediate and catchy, Set-Top Box has more synths and kind of an X.T.C./Oingo Boingo thing going on, and they each end their side by covering one of the other's songs from a previous release. I really like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myLtkXCy2gA

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

This is good. Makes me miss home.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
For argument and discussion

https://twitter.com/DBAnthony/status/1228025348866134017?s=19

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

The article was bad enough, but the list - boy howdy!

That whole thing's a mess.

life is a joke
Mar 7, 2016
Nice of them to open by explaining that the genre is hard to define, which I guess is true, but a lot of these are way off, so it seems like a Wikipedia research paper.

They also should have made it 50 songs tops, they obviously ran out and added a bunch. They put the reasons why for each but a bunch didn’t make sense?

E: cut out some rant lol

life is a joke fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Feb 14, 2020

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!
Help out some dudes that got their poo poo stolen.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-for...6Ir4NA3GVdYZYvw

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Ferrule posted:

The article was bad enough, but the list - boy howdy!

That whole thing's a mess.

I knew I was gonna hate it just from the header image.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Ferrule posted:

The article was bad enough, but the list - boy howdy!

That whole thing's a mess.

It's actually good

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

deadwing posted:

It's actually good

Yes. Weezer is also my favorite emo band.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Ferrule posted:

Yes. Weezer is also my favorite emo band.

The list has Sarge on it so it's good, sorry I don't make the rules

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



elbkaida posted:

Slime is awesome. For some reason quite a few of their songs sound a bit odd on record to me, I much prefer the live versions. Their second live album is one of my alltime favourites, the sound is great and all the songs have tons of energy and are played really tight as well.

Yeah, I totally agree. For example, Disco's studio version is alright, but the live recording that I linked in my previous post sounds incredible to me. That and other classic songs of theirs really are punk at its best, sounding raw, energetic, and snotty, while still varied and even with some technical skill behind it, though they'd never admit it.

The lyrical content is often Babby's First Politics, not very nuanced or groundbreaking, but we already said that it's a punk band.

quote:

I'll throw out some German stuff I like:

Short-lived late 70s, early 80s classic bands: Male, Artless, Buttocks, Sluts. This is stuff from the early generation that came after punk exploded in the UK and US when bands started doing punk in german. There were a lot of cool and influential bands around but almost none that survived past a few years. My favourite record from that time is "Monarchie & Alltag" by Fehlfarben though. It's more post punk but on a completely different level from all the other stuff at the time IMO.

Classic Deutschpunk: Toxoplasma, Slime

Skatepunk: Terrorgruppe, ZSK

NYHC worship: Make It Count, Final Prayer

Other hardcore: Alpinist, Zann

Kinda emo: Captain Planet, Mikrokosmos 23

Only Toxoplasma song I know is Schwarz Rot Braun, but it's definitely good. Any more you'd recommend?

ZSK...not bad, I like this song and this one, some serious Anti-Flag vibes, and I like Anti-Flag no matter what people say.

From what I've heard Terrorgruppe sounds like another nineties Epitaph band except in German, not bad, but nothing I haven't heard before. Also reminds me a bit of Rantanplan.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
My biggest redflag for any BEST OF EMO lists, controversial or not, is loving Jimmy Eat World. They are just a rock band. That's it. They aren't doing literally ANYTHING that would paint them as more EMO than any other rock band, but for some reason they are mainstays of these stupid retrospectives and as someone who grew up on the NY/NJ state lines and was about as immersed in East Coast Emo as you could have possibly been in the 00's... Jimmy Eat World is a fine rock band, English, but 'tis not Emo

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

Pillbug
Clarity is a really good emo album, i-m-o

Moe_Rahn
Jun 1, 2006

I got a question
why they hatin' on me?
I ain't did nothin' to 'em
but count this money
and put my team on
got my whole clique stunnin'
boy wassup
yeeeeeaaaaaahhhh
Apparently the term for that sort of cargo-cult, NYHC-worship stuff is "heavy hardcore"? That's dumb as poo poo.

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
It's like hardcore, but even harder, with a lot more core

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