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Stefan Prodan posted:thank GOD there's a new british politics thread because I tried to post in the last one to ask something and it was closed this but put brexit in there instead http://halliejones.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Baudrillard-The-Gulf-War-did-not-Take-Place.pdf
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Stefan Prodan posted:thank GOD there's a new british politics thread because I tried to post in the last one to ask something and it was closed I means Britain is no longer a European State
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 05:16 |
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Open season
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 05:16 |
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staberind posted:We have not declared Marshall Law, quite yet. I hereby declare Marshal Law to be AWESOME.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 10:32 |
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twoday posted:I don't think there were many, if any, tories in the last thread My bad, meant the Tory gloating in the media whilst the UK blunders into the abyss over the next year. This clown show will only start getting interesting to follow again once the schadenfreude starts hitting, which requires suffering and hubris first. Agean90 posted:so when's Scotland gonna sack up and leave Hopefully after the poo poo hits the fan, until people realize how hosed they are another referendum won't succeed anymore than the previous did. In so far as one can enjoy watching a house of inbred racists slowly burn to the ground by their own making, I am looking forward to how the next act plays out.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 10:44 |
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roarpower posted:no. you stupid people still have a monarchy in 2020. You are supposed to be a first world country Are you American because lol if you think youdont have a monarchy
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 12:25 |
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We haven’t been first world since austerity was implemented in 2010. Part of how Boris won the election was somehow convincing large parts of England that the reason the country is just so utterly poo poo was Labour meddling.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 12:53 |
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Jose posted:Are you American because lol if you think youdont have a monarchy oligarchies suck but that doesn't make them monarchies.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 13:16 |
US first families are treated exactly like royal families by the public and press
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 13:21 |
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bitterandtwisted posted:US first families are treated exactly like royal families by the public and press counterpoint: JEB!
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 13:28 |
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Mirror: Brexit chuds try to burn EU flag but fail due to EU fire-proofing regulations.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 13:39 |
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trying to imagine what would happen if a bunch of brown people would set the union jack on fire
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 13:44 |
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Having a monarchy and not being a member of the EU seems to work out for Norway, so I think Brexit should just be louder and angrier. And every time Prince Andrew is not in frame, everybody should ask "Where's Prince Andrew?".
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 13:44 |
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Norway are basically in the EU in all ways except having representation in the parliament, they're signed up to the four freedoms and pay into the budget. So the same as the UK for the next eleven months.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 13:54 |
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Stefan Prodan posted:thank GOD there's a new british politics thread because I tried to post in the last one to ask something and it was closed that's what they call cookies
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 14:40 |
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twoday posted:I don't think there were many, if any, tories in the last thread Plus the Tories are probably gonna attempt to somehow trick the EU and roll back negotiations, somehow.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 16:35 |
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 16:47 |
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British Liveleak is exactly what I thought it’d be named
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 17:11 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:On the one hand, the Tories do have a firmer majority to push through stupid deals, but a year doesn't seem like much when you consider the speed at which negotiations happened the last few infinitely long years. Tories tricking the EU... or even the word negotiations. Hah! Back when there was a chance the UK might come to its senses the EU took things slowly to not look too harsh if Brexit was reversed or was going to be very soft. Now the EU's united against the UK and the Tories have zero leverage to negotiate. They're getting a Hobson's choice on the terms and there will be no loving about with extensions. There's no words for how fed up people are looking at Johnson and his lackeys and the EU, overwhelmingly supported by public opinion, will no longer be tolerating dithering about or Dumb Tory Bullshit. When the deadline hits, there better be big reasons that are in no way the fault of the UK in reality or in the public's eyes for an extension to even be a real consideration. EU's been prepared to walk away from the table since the 2017 election, and Corbyn was the only open question. Even before that significant EU factions were calling for just telling Britain to gently caress off without any deal at all. Now the side calling for leniency has more or less joined them. Or in shorter terms: Every major faction in the EU that doesn't hate the British in general really hate the Tories now. It's less of a negotiation and more the Tories being presented with two options, labeled "gently caress you" and "gently caress off".
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 17:15 |
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endlessmonotony posted:Tories tricking the EU... or even the word negotiations. Hah!
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 17:37 |
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 17:38 |
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endlessmonotony posted:Tories tricking the EU... or even the word negotiations. Hah! lol the tories are going to blame the big bad unelected eurocrats for not giving BRITAN the best deal ever and the gammons are going to believe them
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 17:43 |
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A Buttery Pastry posted:My point isn't that they'll be able to, or that the EU will play ball with Tory shenanigans - but that the absolutely best faith negotiation I expect from any Tories would be them trying to trick the EU into a completely lopsided deal. It's basically the UK side of the argument for why a year isn't enough time to negotiate a deal, because one side isn't trying - and as you say - the other side would fight over who would get to push a big red button labeled "Britain sinks beneath the waves". Now now, not everyone in the EU hates Britain that badly. Everyone in the EU hates the Tories that much, but only some hate Britain in general that much. The one thing agreed upon by all sides is the lack of trust in the Tories. I mean, I guess I agree - at this point nobody trusts there will be a deal at all, and all you're getting in this timeframe for the UK is a Hobson's choice for a deal utterly... balanced, given the relative strengths of the sides.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 19:23 |
did big ben's bonger bong bigly for brexit, y/n
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 19:30 |
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It did not. There were no bongs and there will be no bongs because the Tories are cocaine or nothing.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 19:39 |
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"Hi, now we've left your fancy club and aren't going to pay our fees anymore, we'd still like you to give us all the perks of membership, please." "Haha gently caress off, get to the back of the queue."
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 19:43 |
There's a reddit thread where people try to get leavers to seriously tell their reasons for voting that way. After skimming it the top reasons are Sovereignty Immigration (poles) The EU being a super state/federation and not being democratic The UK being a money big for the poor countries such as Romania and greece All in all I'm quite looking forward to this brave experiment the brits are undertaking, and wish them good luck. Lmao.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 19:48 |
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GSD posted:do we know what brexit means yet? rum sodomy and the lash is back baby awoo (wolf howl)
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 19:49 |
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https://twitter.com/sabrina_huck/status/1223358824675008513?s=21
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 19:58 |
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gh0stpinballa posted:i think the mistake people are making is assuming that britain is "a country" or a "nation state" anymore. it isn't. it is a bunch of land that surrounds london, and london itself is not a city, it is a gigantic washing machine for billions of dollars of blood money that flows into it from gulf states and various oligarchs and organized crime groups all around the world. it is a ghost land where ghost acts stand in for real change. brexit, like the gulf war, did not really happen. this is why i am struggling to engage with the labour leadership race - until they recognize these facts about "the united kingdom", there is no hope. Lol okay boomer
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 20:12 |
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Son of Rodney posted:There's a reddit thread where people try to get leavers to seriously tell their reasons for voting that way. Remind them that the Poles flew Spitfires alongside Are Brave Boys in the Battle Of Britain and literally gave their lives to help save us.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 20:18 |
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Well, he's not wrong.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 20:18 |
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gh0stpinballa posted:i think the mistake people are making is assuming that britain is "a country" or a "nation state" anymore. it isn't. it is a bunch of land that surrounds london, and london itself is not a city, it is a gigantic washing machine for billions of dollars of blood money that flows into it from gulf states and various oligarchs and organized crime groups all around the world. it is a ghost land where ghost acts stand in for real change. brexit, like the gulf war, did not really happen. this is why i am struggling to engage with the labour leadership race - until they recognize these facts about "the united kingdom", there is no hope. You had me right up until 'somehow this is all Labour's fault'. Yeah ok.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 20:31 |
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Isizzlehorn posted:You had me right up until 'somehow this is all Labour's fault'. I mean, a Labour outside of Corbyn ain't going to be poo poo.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 20:57 |
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https://twitter.com/goodclimate/status/1223652474810195976
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 21:18 |
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If labour is gonna win the next election they gotta studiously avoid falling into the scotland trap, or the next election will just be a shitshow about labour trying to break up the UK. If you feel bad about having to turn on scotland remember that all this is actually all their fault. If they had voted for independence it would have destroyed cameron and the tories and there wouldnt have been a brexit.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 23:26 |
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hakimashou posted:If labour is gonna win the next election they gotta studiously avoid falling into the scotland trap, or the next election will just be a shitshow about labour trying to break up the UK. you are consistently the dumbest poster on these forums op, don't you think it's time to find another hobby?
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 23:33 |
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hakimashou posted:If labour is gonna win the next election they gotta studiously avoid falling into the scotland trap, or the next election will just be a shitshow about labour trying to break up the UK. Poor little England, dragged out of the EU by the perfidious Highland barbarians. :-(
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 23:38 |
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Stoatbringer posted:"Hi, now we've left your fancy club and aren't going to pay our fees anymore, we'd still like you to give us all the perks of membership, please." "Ok, fine. How about we negotiate our new trade deal that we just scrapped. We would like everything as before, but cheaper please." "Haha gently caress off, everything is now at least 10% more." "I say, thats rather unfair. I'm going to complain!" "To who?" "Bugger!"
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Regarde Aduck posted:We haven’t been first world since austerity was implemented in 2010. As an outsider to UK politics, what struck me the most about pre election polls was that Boris is more prime ministerial. I was like "wtf does it even mean". On one hand you have an honest man with an uncompromised 20 year record of plain utilising power of government for the good of the people. And the other is lying cheating coward who hides in the fridge. How the gently caress is that prime ministerial? The answer is simple, british people are so thoroughly conditioned that they plain see honesty and benevolence is anti prime ministerial it scares them, and screwing you by your betters as right and proper British approach.
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