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I did not know this, but after watching John Wick 3 with subtitles, that knife scene at the beginning ends with a *crunch*.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 11:13 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 23:52 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I did not know this, but after watching John Wick 3 with subtitles, that knife scene at the beginning ends with a *crunch*. I loved that scene because it reminded me of how I play 3rd person shooters. They were camping at the ammo pickups.
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 11:18 |
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Olaf The Stout posted:That daredevil season 1 fight is only good because it's ripping off Oldboy. Even though its a rip-off, it's a good rip-off of a very good scene so I'll allow it
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# ? Jan 31, 2020 12:17 |
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It’s a subtle movie moment that the hallway fight in Oldboy is actually inferior to the one in Daredevil
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 04:29 |
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DandyLion posted:I geek out a fair bit about movie/tv swordfighting and I have hunted for the best examples I can find (in regards to realism). One of the things that makes that scene work is that they used the on-set sounds of the swords hitting. It's what makes things feel real, and my favorite example is from Mask of Zorro (1940) (skip to 1:00 if you don't want the buildup): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB8tiSMCwRE So then you see poo poo like this, which by all accounts *should* be a more intense scene, but the sound effects are overdubbed to be BIG and POWERFUL and all you get is a mess. You can even hear a shattering sound effect thrown in when they break a table with no glass on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDxMgFbyBTo&t=144s
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 08:59 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I did not know this, but after watching John Wick 3 with subtitles, that knife scene at the beginning ends with a *crunch*. The baked in subtitles are coloured to indicate the characters intentions/feelings towards the situation. I'm terrible at explaining it but red for menace etc. Also this is cheating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrVbCKtWG6U
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 16:19 |
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Humphreys posted:The baked in subtitles are coloured to indicate the characters intentions/feelings towards the situation. I'm terrible at explaining it but red for menace etc. The baked in subtitles are different in different languages (obviously) but it is interesting to have such clear difference in international versions
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# ? Feb 2, 2020 08:07 |
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Hey my dudes, I saw cool as ice and did an effort post You must get be interested https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3913164&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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# ? Feb 2, 2020 23:35 |
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Inzombiac posted:It irks me in virtually every lightsaber fight how they almost always aim for the air around their targets just to make sure there are lots of flourishes. I finally got around to watching Rise of Skywalker, and I really enjoyed that during Rey/Ren's duel on the sunken Death Star, they actually use the Force to stop each other's blows on multiple occasions. I always thought it was strange that battles between these wizards with telekinetic powers boiled down to physical swordfights where nobody used their abilities in a meaningful way. They didn't get quite as creative with it as they could have--like, for instance, using the Force to turn off your opponent's lightsaber while they're trying to block your blow--but I appreciated that it was at least touched on in a way that I don't remember seeing before.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 00:41 |
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Patattack posted:I finally got around to watching Rise of Skywalker, and I really enjoyed that during Rey/Ren's duel on the sunken Death Star
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 01:53 |
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Pilchenstein posted:The one part of the film that I didn't think was straight up atrocious was at the end of that fight when Leia gives her life to stun Kylo so Rey can stab him but then the writer clarified in an interview that what Leia actually gives her life to do is this: Oh goddammit.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 02:21 |
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Pilchenstein posted:The one part of the film that I didn't think was straight up atrocious was at the end of that fight when Leia gives her life to stun Kylo so Rey can stab him but then the writer clarified in an interview that what Leia actually gives her life to do is this: If TLJ wasn't so good I would chalk the whole trilogy up as a mistake. God, there are really good ideas just under the surface but people like JJ are terrified of letting characters have any real emotions and flaws.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 02:59 |
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Pilchenstein posted:The one part of the film that I didn't think was straight up atrocious was at the end of that fight when Leia gives her life to stun Kylo so Rey can stab him but then the writer clarified in an interview that what Leia actually gives her life to do is this: Yeeesh. I didn't hate it--mostly because my expectations had been sufficiently lowered by all the negative reviews. There were striking visuals, excellent production/set/character design, fun action setpieces, and a handful of compelling ideas...but they were all held together with jarringly bad editing, and driven by some truly stilted plot devices and character choices. To stay on topic...I guess subtle maybe isn't the right word for it, because it was front-and-center (but blink-and-you'll-miss-it fast), but I was really happy to see that Wedge had returned to the Resistance. Also that the young-looking Mon Calamari was addressed as "junior", implying that he's Ackbar's son.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 04:48 |
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Patattack posted:Yeeesh. Hot take. TRoS was good. The editing was only distracting in the first 20 minutes because the scenes were too short and for some reason they didnt use wipes, a star wars trope. After that is was good, and built upon TLJ fittingly and wrapped up well. Why cant people just allow decent films to be decent? Like 2 star wars films were amazing. Ep 8 and 9 were better than par for the course.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 05:04 |
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Alternate take, it wasn't that good. Wasn't the franchise destroying poo poo monster people make it out to be, but it's just not a good movie. TLJ was also not a good movie. They both had good parts, I'll grant you that. Overall though, solid "meh" films. I'm surprised that Driver hasn't been seen walking around with a cane, I thought he'd have some horrible back trouble after carrying the last 2 movies by himself.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 05:55 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Alternate take, it wasn't that good. Wasn't the franchise destroying poo poo monster people make it out to be, but it's just not a good movie. TLJ was also not a good movie. He's got those pants that support his core really good so it's not that much of a hassle
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 06:04 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:They both had good parts, I'll grant you that. Overall though, solid "meh" films. I was in exactly the same camp ever since I saw tRoS because I promptly forgot most of it immediately after walking out of the cinema but Jenny Nicholson recently did a youtube video about all the sucky parts of the film which runs for over an hour (nearly half the running time of the film itself) and I checked it out last night out of curiosity and it reminded me of all the many many explicably dumb parts of the film. She's not even being super nitpicky, she excuses a lot of the lesser dumb stuff and just points out the really dumb stuff, like that goddamned secret puzzle knife macguffin that just makes no drat sense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GErIPKjwuDg It's a really dumb film, even by dumb action/adventure space opera standards.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 06:21 |
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Or the part where you have an emotional moment with a real sacrifice by one of the most important characters in the 9 film series and then it means absolutely nothing because HA! R2D2 had a backup. Why even have that whole, ‘can’t translate this because it’s evil!’ scene. In the end it added nothing.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 06:29 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:Or the part where you have an emotional moment with a real sacrifice by one of the most important characters in the 9 film series and then it means absolutely nothing because HA! R2D2 had a backup. They put that in so that they could go seek out the ascended droid master so that they could shoehorn in Poe's Ex Girlfriend Because He's Totally Not Gay
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 06:35 |
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It's impressive how the closer you look, the worse it gets.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 06:51 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:Or the part where you have an emotional moment with a real sacrifice by one of the most important characters in the 9 film series and then it means absolutely nothing because HA! R2D2 had a backup. the joke is that nobody gives a gently caress about C3P0, and nobody ever has or will
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 07:46 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:Or the part where you have an emotional moment with a real sacrifice by one of the most important characters in the 9 film series and then it means absolutely nothing because HA! R2D2 had a backup. Also HA! Rey didn't accidentally kill Chewie at all, he wasn't even on that ship which blew up. Also HA! Vader didn't kill Palpie, he .... just got better. Also HA! Reylo didn't kill the leader of the First Order, Snoke wasn't even a real person and Palpie even has a big jar full of spares. Also HA! Rey died defeating Palpie but Ben just brought her back immediately. Also HA! Han Solo might be dead but he can just pop in for a chat anyway even though he wasn't a Jedi and he's not a Force ghost or anything. They not only repeatedly "killed off" a bunch of characters during this film only for them to come back with almost no fanfare, they also undid/undercut a bunch of the big dramatic deaths from previous films. Leia's death was the only one which stuck and as we've already discussed that wasn't great. Memento posted:They put that in so that they could go seek out the ascended droid master so that they could shoehorn in Poe's Ex Girlfriend Because He's Totally Not Gay They also made a hash out of Finn's attempts to confess his love for Rey and instead invented a lady ex-Stormtrooper love interest for him Because He's Totally Not Gay But Also Not An Incel Tunicate posted:the joke is that nobody gives a gently caress about C3P0, and nobody ever has or will Rumour has it that Anthony Daniels has been demanding that C3PO gets a big heroic sacrifice moment for years and that whole scene was the result
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 07:49 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:They also made a hash out of Finn's attempts to confess his love for Rey and instead invented a lady ex-Stormtrooper love interest for him Because He's Totally Not Gay But Also Not An Incel I read somewhere that Finn was actually trying to confess that he's also Force sensitive. So they cut that out, fine, whatever. But why did they choose the keep the multiple setups to a payoff that would never come? loving dumb.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 11:05 |
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Gargamel Gibson posted:But why did they choose the keep the multiple setups to a payoff that would never come? loving dumb. JJ Abrams set up a whole bunch of his infamous "mystery box" plotlines in The Force Awakens but then Rian Johnson just abandoned most of them in The Last Jedi rather than 'solve' them (Luke doesn't give a poo poo about his lightsaber, Rey's parents were nobody special, Snoke gets killed without his past being revealed, etc etc). Johnson was supposed to write the story for The Rise of Skywalker and Colin Trevorrow was supposed to direct but after Trevorrow left the project Disney brought JJ Abrams back and he obviously went "gently caress you I'm undoing everything you guys did in Last Jedi and I'm bringing back all my mystery boxes" Spending a crazy amount of energy on setups only to abandon the payoffs has been a recurring theme through the entire trilogy.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 11:49 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Also HA! Han Solo might be dead but he can just pop in for a chat anyway even though he wasn't a Jedi and he's not a Force ghost or anything. Let's not bitch about that one, because it was blatantly obvious that it was originally meant to be Leia in the scene.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 12:30 |
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Jedit posted:Let's not bitch about that one, because it was blatantly obvious that it was originally meant to be Leia in the scene. Apparently some of the writers confirmed at one point that Leia was supposed to be the Last Jedi, but ....
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 12:50 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Apparently some of the writers confirmed at one point that Leia was supposed to be the Last Jedi, but .... Didn't Yoda say as much in RotJ?
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 13:55 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Johnson was supposed to write the story for The Rise of Skywalker and Colin Trevorrow was supposed to direct
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 13:55 |
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I remember Johnson writing the episode IX story as well being part of the articles when he was first hired and then literally never again
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:11 |
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How many transports did Rey see taking off from that patch of desert no where near any need for multiple transports! Apparently enough to play 3 card monte. They’re not near a city. They only had one prisoner. I feel like they missed a fantastic opportunity to put the skeleton of a dead independent contractor in the crashed Death Star.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:18 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:How many transports did Rey see taking off from that patch of desert no where near any need for multiple transports! Apparently enough to play 3 card monte. They’re not near a city. They only had one prisoner. How would you know he was an independent contractor, though? Would he be clutching his Space-1099 in a skeleton grip?
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:27 |
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I've been re-watching The Venture Brothers recently, because I think I've only seen seasons 6 and 7 once each so I figured I might as well start at the beginning. And in the season one episode "Are You There, God? It's Me, Dean" (where Dean has testicular torsion,) The Monach is taking Hank and Brock back to the cocoon, and Hank is reading a book that has a list of all The Guild villains. The Monarch asks for Hank to look him up, but he's not in the book. At the time, we're supposed to take this to mean that it's just because The Monarch is a one-shot lovely villain, but in the season 3 premiere, "Shadowman 9: In The Cradle of Destiny," we find out that (minor spoiler for a ten+ year old season, not putting it in a box): It's because The Monarch never officially registered as a villain with The Guild. He was a henchman for Phantom Limb, and then just started arching Dr.Venture on the side because he hates him, then quit being a henchman for good and took Dr.Girlfriend/Queen Etheria/Lady AuPair/Dr.Mrs.The Monarch with him. (Ok, the REAL reason is that when Doc and Jackson wrote season 1 it WAS because The Monarch was a lovely villain not worthy of The Guild book, but I like that they were able to retcon in a reason that fits with The Guild's insistence on crushing bureaucracy.)
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 14:47 |
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Gargamel Gibson posted:I read somewhere that Finn was actually trying to confess that he's also Force sensitive. So they cut that out, fine, whatever. But why did they choose the keep the multiple setups to a payoff that would never come? loving dumb. The scene where BB-8 opens the hatch on the Star Destroyer was supposed to be Finn using the force on it, apparently.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 15:00 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:How would you know he was an independent contractor, though? Would he be clutching his Space-1099 in a skeleton grip? I dunno, sunglasses hanging off the back of his skull and a tattered t-shirt that says this forklift operator was born on a Primeday and likes roasted porg and doesn’t take poo poo from any droid? And it didn’t even occur to me that the mystery girlfriend was Poe’s beard. Take out that stupid subplot and you don’t have to speed run the first 20 minutes of the movie.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 15:07 |
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Really weird too to try to force ( ) the hetro love interests onto Poe & Finn, just to have 2 female Resistance fighters kiss at the end when the battle was won. It's like "Yeah, there are gay people in the Star Wars universe… BUT NOT THE MAIN HEROS!" Disney tried having it both ways ( ) and we're rightly called out on it.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 15:18 |
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DrBouvenstein posted:I've been re-watching The Venture Brothers recently, because I think I've only seen seasons 6 and 7 once each so I figured I might as well start at the beginning. One of them said a couple of years back that the first thing they do when they're writing a new season is go through old episodes looking for throwaway lines they can hang new hooks on It ends up being so satisfying to rewatch because they're rewatching right along with you
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:09 |
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Android Apocalypse posted:Really weird too to try to force ( ) the hetro love interests onto Poe & Finn, just to have 2 female Resistance fighters kiss at the end when the battle was won. Its not weird at all, to a huge group of terrible people two women kissing is good and maybe even straight while two men kissing is an affront to god.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:35 |
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RandomFerret posted:One of them said a couple of years back that the first thing they do when they're writing a new season is go through old episodes looking for throwaway lines they can hang new hooks on They even do it for fun, tiny little gags. The second time I watched S7 I noticed that, during the 80’s flashback, Red Death has a magazine with an ad for a powder blue Nissan Stanza on the back.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 16:54 |
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Android Apocalypse posted:Really weird too to try to force ( ) the hetro love interests onto Poe & Finn, just to have 2 female Resistance fighters kiss at the end when the battle was won. It’s a lot easier to cut out a 1 second kissing scene for the Russian/Chinese/etc. cuts than a romance subplot between two main characters. EDIT: gently caress this is NOT the RoS thread in the Star Wars subforum. You folks should go there.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 18:11 |
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Ugly In The Morning posted:They even do it for fun, tiny little gags. The second time I watched S7 I noticed that, during the 80’s flashback, Red Death has a magazine with an ad for a powder blue Nissan Stanza on the back. I got the Venture Bros book a couple years ago. I highly recommend it. It's a great insight into a lot of what they were doing.
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