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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Owlbear Camus posted:

I would rather watch Lapti Nek on a 2 hour loop than rewatch AotC.

This man is a connoisseur of twi'lek nipple slips.

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Blistex posted:

This man is a connoisseur of twi'lek nipple slips.

Goonfession: As a tween starting to experience an awakening of the force before the Internet made seeing a boob trivially easy for a young man, I do indeed remember pausing and adjusting the tracking on the VCR at exactly this moment.

It was the early 90's, it was like that or squint at the chick on the land-o-lakes package.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Rise of Skywalker is just flat bad on multiple levels. The biggest offender being JJ just going out of his way to retcon back anything interesting laid out by the previous film so aggressively you can all but hear him scream "NUH-UHHHH" like a petulant child each time he does it.

The second-biggest is the wholly-unnecessary Leia scenes.

Fabulousity
Dec 29, 2008

Number One I order you to take a number two.

I haven't seen ROS and probably won't bother any time soon so I listened to The Flop House podcast on it not really caring about spoilers. It wasn't until about half way through the episode it dawned on me that this wasn't a parody in which they were just making weird poo poo up to prank people. What they were describing was the real movie as it exists and all I can say is haha wow

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



Butterfly Valley posted:

I feel a primal and instinctual revulsion to this post, it activates the hidden corners of my brain and millennia of genetic imprinting telling me to beware of luridly coloured insects and the roar of unseen beasts in the jungle

this is the best post i’ve seen in a while

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000



Ultra Carp
reminder: george lucas named her princess "leia" because she'd "lay ya"

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









TK-42-1 posted:

this is the best post i’ve seen in a while

It was vg

Beef Hardcheese
Jan 21, 2003

HOW ABOUT I LASH YOUR SHIT


Fabulousity posted:

I haven't seen ROS and probably won't bother any time soon so I listened to The Flop House podcast on it not really caring about spoilers. It wasn't until about half way through the episode it dawned on me that this wasn't a parody in which they were just making weird poo poo up to prank people. What they were describing was the real movie as it exists and all I can say is haha wow

I'm about 20 minutes into this, do these jackoffs ever go more than five minutes without going off onto some tangent about craisins or Robert Deniro or Randy Newman?

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


*thinking harder than anyone has ever thought before *
Star.....Wars......Bad?!?!

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


poisonpill posted:

*thinking harder than anyone has ever thought before *
Star.....Wars......Bad?!?!

TK-42-1 posted:

this is the best post i’ve seen in a while

Thank you

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

Beef Hardcheese posted:

I'm about 20 minutes into this, do these jackoffs ever go more than five minutes without going off onto some tangent about craisins or Robert Deniro or Randy Newman?

No.

Beef Hardcheese
Jan 21, 2003

HOW ABOUT I LASH YOUR SHIT



That's what I figured. I have a hard enough time dealing with something like How Did This Get Made where they keep jumping around within the topic of a single movie, I can't handle "lol random" side trips. Probably why I prefer Youtube videos, even the worst ones have least some barebones editing.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Before "The Mandalorian" there was "Star Wars: Underworld", the Christmas Special of Star Wars TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbWRuEtElQM

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

unknown butthole posted:

maybe it's because the prequel trilogy was part of my childhood but that's what I consider the definitive star wars trilogy. I never liked the originals. I thought they were bland, I thought the acting was stilted, and the plotlines contrived. Like really, the empire is defeated by a bunch of teddy bears? Half the time in the originals I had no idea what was going on because they were so boring I couldn't be bothered to pay attention. A New Hope especially. At least the prequel trilogy was exciting and had memorable characters. Even the lightsaber battles in the original trilogy somehow managed to feel so incredibly slow.

Even though that movie is bad (IV and V are the only good Star Wars movies), the empire isn't defeated at the end of RotJ - that's an addition the terrible later edits made (the whole galaxy suddenly celebrating for some reason).

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



that always bugged me. like if the empire didn’t collapse after yavin why would it collapse immediately following endor? butbI think that might have been one of the first times they showed coruscant so that was cool. the eu did one thing well and that was how the empire fragmented into fiefdoms and the new republic trying to extent influence and poo poo. everything was pretty drat bad.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Blistex posted:

Before "The Mandalorian" there was "Star Wars: Underworld", the Christmas Special of Star Wars TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbWRuEtElQM

That was really boring

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

TK-42-1 posted:

that always bugged me. like if the empire didn’t collapse after yavin why would it collapse immediately following endor? butbI think that might have been one of the first times they showed coruscant so that was cool. the eu did one thing well and that was how the empire fragmented into fiefdoms and the new republic trying to extent influence and poo poo. everything was pretty drat bad.

If I remember correctly (it must be 20 odd years since I read it), the novel of return of the jedi explained it as, the emporor used his force powers to enhance the fighting abilities of the troops & once he was dead it all went to poo poo. At least thats what I remember, but yeah, it's still bullshit.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

-Do you know what we're doing tonight, Kylo Ren?

-Uhhhhhj idunno Darth Palpatine, maybe having a wiffle ball tournament with the Sith Eternal Army until we all get tired and eat ice cream sandwiches?

- No you fool, you absolute buffoon. We're doing the same thing we do every night. We're building Death Star Star Destroyers in the Unknown Regions

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Trainee PornStar posted:

the emporor used his force powers to enhance the fighting abilities of the troops
He had wild sex with every single one of them. That was what kept them all going.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Trainee PornStar posted:

If I remember correctly (it must be 20 odd years since I read it), the novel of return of the jedi explained it as, the emporor used his force powers to enhance the fighting abilities of the troops & once he was dead it all went to poo poo. At least thats what I remember, but yeah, it's still bullshit.

The Empire FLEET crumbling at Endor after the Death Star and the Executor are destroyed makes sense. Morale and strong/organized leadership are very important during a battle, and losing the two strongest units (who were supposed to be invincible) plus the top brass who have been watching and coordinating the entire operation would be demoralizing. Honestly, if you just glance at the lineup during ROTJ, the battle should have been over pretty drat fast, as there was something in the order of 3-4 Star Destroyers per Rebel ship (that we could see onscreen). You're not going to destroy every Empire ship there, but shortly after the DSII blows up, everyone is going to try and jump out of there asap.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Moola posted:

That was really boring

There’s a reason why they compared it to the Christmas special.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

angryrobots posted:

-Do you know what we're doing tonight, Kylo Ren?

-Uhhhhhj idunno Darth Palpatine, maybe having a wiffle ball tournament with the Sith Eternal Army until we all get tired and eat ice cream sandwiches?

- No you fool, you absolute buffoon. We're doing the same thing we do every night. We're building Death Star Star Destroyers in the Unknown Regions




"NARF!"

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Blistex posted:

The Empire FLEET crumbling at Endor after the Death Star and the Executor are destroyed makes sense. Morale and strong/organized leadership are very important during a battle, and losing the two strongest units (who were supposed to be invincible) plus the top brass who have been watching and coordinating the entire operation would be demoralizing. Honestly, if you just glance at the lineup during ROTJ, the battle should have been over pretty drat fast, as there was something in the order of 3-4 Star Destroyers per Rebel ship (that we could see onscreen). You're not going to destroy every Empire ship there, but shortly after the DSII blows up, everyone is going to try and jump out of there asap.

Yeah Palpy's Battle Meditation is the answer to a question that already had one. I doubt with the Emperor, Vader, a Moff, and whatever Admiral was commanding the SSD in the battle in 2 of their most "secure" vesselsI doubt they gave much prior consideration to who would be like 5th or 6th in fleet command and whoever it was in the lickspittle imp navy lacked the presence and quick thinking to pull the fleet together after that kind of loss.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Owlbear Camus posted:

Yeah Palpy's Battle Meditation is the answer to a question that already had one. I doubt with the Emperor, Vader, a Moff, and whatever Admiral was commanding the SSD in the battle in 2 of their most "secure" vesselsI doubt they gave much prior consideration to who would be like 5th or 6th in fleet command and whoever it was in the lickspittle imp navy lacked the presence and quick thinking to pull the fleet together after that kind of loss.

Answering questions nobody asked, or re-answering questions that already had answers (like you pointed out) is the bread and butter of the Star Wars universe.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Beef Hardcheese posted:

That's what I figured. I have a hard enough time dealing with something like How Did This Get Made where they keep jumping around within the topic of a single movie, I can't handle "lol random" side trips. Probably why I prefer Youtube videos, even the worst ones have least some barebones editing.

I abandoned How Did This Get Made last year when I discovered We Hate Movies. I highly recommend it.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



So I heard that there's some nice transfers off original prints now to replace despecialized? What should I look for?




Here's a video telling us what we already know about how much sheev rules:
https://youtu.be/05_HDCwgD28

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Feb 2, 2020

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Was at a friend's last night as we noticed how Solo is the last trace of Star Wars left on Netflix, and we got to talking about the new trilogy. One of the first things he said was, "Everyone says that JJ is a really good visual director, but I really don't see it". I agreed and we started talking about how TFA and ROS were sort of generic looking with their effects, and nothing really stuck out in our minds past the star destroyer on Jakku. (pictured below)



We started talking about the various shots from 2001, which had a lot less to work with tech wise, but how Kubric was obviously a master of visuals, or more specifically, the guy really knew how to frame a shot. (he was also obsessive when it came to scene lighting). Between the two of us, we probably brought up 30 or more shots from the movie (from memory) which each of us immediately knew what the other was referencing. With the exception of some of the scenes in the space station and in the moon base, you could almost literally take a screen cap from any moment of the movie and it was engaging, technically innovative, or at the least visually stunning.



imgur gallery link Click Here

We moved on to Solo, and while it's not the strongest film, and it wasn't going for the massive epic vistas and scenes that others went for, it did have a lot of nice visuals that didn't make you think, "Phone it in CGI" like TFA and ROS did. The WWI trench war at the beginning, and the train heist were well done, and the Star Destroyer blockade was very original, and all of them were interesting to look at.

Here are a few scenes from Rogue One that I cherry picked (intentionally leaving out the battle scenes). It's a film that was very disappointing (more so after experiencing the last half), but it consistently impressed me with the way it framed things that we've seen countless times before (in Star Wars and other Sci Fi).

The intro with Krennic's shuttle approaching the planet was really well done. Never letting the shuttle itself occupy more than a few pixels really gave you a sense of the scale of things.


Jedha (a whole plotline I would have cut entirely) had some nice shots as well. The close-up of the planet was really well done, and I appreciate how you can see the topography of the planet, the city itself, and even the Star Destroyer hovering above it. And natrually the close up of the city was (IMO) pretty cool, and is another cool way to depict the scale of the Empire's units, like what we saw in the opening scene of ANH. Showing how large the villains are in a film goes a long ways to depicting their power and how difficult it is to overcome them.



I don't know if Gareth Edwards has a fetish for star destroyers, and depicting scale, but it's exactly what you need to really sell how massive the Death Star is. First he has a Tie Fighter (something that we all know is very small and can easily wrap our heads around as to its scale establish the shot, then he does a reverse-ESB and has a Star Destroyer come out of the shadows with the tie very close, letting us know how massive it is. Then he uses the Star Destroyer to reveal the Death Star's true size by having it and a few others next to the Laser dish, something we know that only accounts for a fraction of the Death Star's size. Finally, when the Death Star is about to destroy the city on Jedha, it's framed quite far away, and over the planet, showing how tiny it is compared to an actual celestial body.

feller
Jul 5, 2006


next time just tell us that you jacked off together

a peck of pickled peckers
Aug 3, 2014

I am your Redeemer! It is by my hand that you arise from the ashes of this world!

yikes! posted:

next time just tell us that you bullseyed each other's womprats together

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

yikes! posted:

next time just tell us that you jacked off together

We watched "The Irishman" and we're not in the mood.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

I don't think that comparing a popcorn movie to Kubrick's 2001 is necessarily a reasonable thing to do

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

QuarkJets posted:

I don't think that comparing a popcorn movie to Kubrick's 2001 is necessarily a reasonable thing to do

But you see, JJ's strength is his amazing visuals. Also, it's unfair to compare him to anyone with talent.

Isometric Bacon
Jul 24, 2004

Let's get naked!
I think lots of the JJ visual praising comes from saying 'Wouldn't x be a cool set piece for an action scene?' rather than any specific compositions of shots. Then they need to shoehorn a narrative reason into the film to see it.

You can almost see the production meeting where they pick and choose from what they think is the coolest looking concept art.


At least for rRise of the Skywalker anyway, I don't remember TFA being all that bad.

Fabulousity
Dec 29, 2008

Number One I order you to take a number two.

QuarkJets posted:

I abandoned How Did This Get Made last year when I discovered We Hate Movies. I highly recommend it.

Tried it. It's just The Flop House but they swear a little more. Same drat show.

How Did This Get Made is bad in the sense that it gets up it's own rear end in a not funny way.

To keep it on topic: lol Luke farted

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Isometric Bacon posted:

I think lots of the JJ visual praising comes from saying 'Wouldn't x be a cool set piece for an action scene?' rather than any specific compositions of shots. Then they need to shoehorn a narrative reason into the film to see it.

You can almost see the production meeting where they pick and choose from what they think is the coolest looking concept art.

At least for rRise of the Skywalker anyway, I don't remember TFA being all that bad.

Was there a cool set piece that he used for an action scene? The only thing that comes to mind that sort of hits that mark is the Rey/Kylo fight on the death star wreckage. The only other thing that I can think of is "Make tie fighters chase the Millennium Falcon through an enclosed space", which is hardly original.


Also, the fact that TFA doesn't have one specific scene is very surprising, and leads me to believe it got cut due to time constraints.



(ST:09, ST:ITD, ST:ITD, ROS)

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Winter forest lightsaber fight with snow bursting into steam was, conceptually at least, decent. And it contained the films "jump up on your seat and cheer" moment (from a character who got done extremely dirty the rest of the series).

Isometric Bacon
Jul 24, 2004

Let's get naked!

Blistex posted:

Was there a cool set piece that he used for an action scene? The only thing that comes to mind that sort of hits that mark is the Rey/Kylo fight on the death star wreckage. The only other thing that I can think of is "Make tie fighters chase the Millennium Falcon through an enclosed space", which is hardly original.

I'm mostly thinking things like 'A million star destroyers in the sky', 'death star in water' and 'thousands of sith standing in an arena chanting', 'planet having a party once in a million years which happens the minute we arrive' -forced big set pieces that don't really make any sense conceptually when you think about them for more than a second.

But to be fair - the original star wars is all about stuff that falls apart if you think more than a second - giant planet killing weapons, laser swords and AT ATs. It's just this movie dials everything up to 11 all the time and there's no real cohesion to it beyond the 'rule of cool'.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
The Death Star was an unstoppable way to subjugate the Galaxy; obey the Empire or we send the Death Star to wipe out your planet.

The AT-AT's are built for intimidation and an elvated platform of gently caress-you. The Rebels killed a few with desperation and tow cables, but anyone who didn't think of that functionally had heavily-armored walking tanks bearing down on them. The Mandalorian is a good example of treating the AT-ST like a military tank on legs too.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



A screenwriter or production designer thought it would be cool to call back to the Punic Wars, and they were right.

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Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

That star destroyer visible above the city from space is really loving up the much vaunted scale of the death star in the second shot

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