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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:On the bright side: Sanders is still leading the betting markets, up to an all time high of 38%. Probably would have a bigger bounce if they didn’t gently caress this up. Biden is down from 30 to 18 and still in second place. Pete’s up a bunch
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All Pete had to do is shut the gently caress up and let his ratfucking do it's work behind closed doors but he was so jazzed by the chance at a victory (ANY victory) that he declared himself the winner. The optics are just mindbogglingly bad, even if you discount his many flaws and many many fuckups the dude doesn't belong anywhere the oval office just because thinking that declaration was a good idea presents a profound stupidity and arrogance. So par the course really 
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FRINGE posted:Theres a reason that civilized countries dont like spies involved in civil politics. Wait, are you saying that about me? I'm a little tipsy so apologizes if I'm missing something.
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Wiltsghost posted:Wait, are you saying that about me? I'm a little tipsy so apologizes if I'm missing something. Pete used to do work for the CIA. To expand on it a little more, he told people that while working for the consulting firm Mckinsey he took a "vacation" to Somalia, a country that lacks a centralized government due to massive corruption. logger fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Feb 4, 2020 |
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For four years the Democrats have been going "TRUMP STOLE THE ELECTION" and then they prove themselves incapable of running a single election without making it look like they blatantly rigged it.
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Bernie's people were absolutely ready for this and only had up to 40% reporting by the time Pete declared himself winner. So I'm wondering if he did that based on any numbers at all, like 15%, or did he just say gently caress it and declare without even looking at anything?
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Pakled posted:I'm still not convinced that the app fuckup was intentionally orchestrated to benefit Pete. Because I'm not seeing how it actually benefits Pete at all. We can be pretty confident that the actual delegate counts, once they actually get collected, can't have been faked, at least not on a systematic level. This changes the media narrative, and not, as far as I can imagine it, in a way that benefits Pete. If everything had gone off without a hitch, the media, with its "ignoring Bernie" blinders on, would have had two big stories out of the caucuses: 1. Biden collapses, and 2. Pete either wins or has an unexpectedly very strong second place. Now, with the app fuckup, the actual results, which are good for Pete, are falling by the wayside, and whatever momentum he was counting on getting out of Iowa has been severely blunted. The theory is this denies a bernie victory momentum in the news cycle and allows pete to declare the winner while keeping the numbers unknowable for as long as possible in hoping that's what sticks in the public consciousness. I don't know if it's a full blown conspiracy but all the details surrounding the app and !!SHADOW INC!! gives off extreme Mckinsey vibes
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logger posted:Pete used to do work for the CIA. Oh, I know that. It was just worded like I work for the campaign or something. I've donated to Bernie and have been pretty pro Bernie all night I thought.
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[quote="FRINGE" post="502213323"] Youre really going to pull ~DECORUM~ right now? Calling out arguments that say that people are bad based on what part of the country they are from isn't  , it's called being better than Trumpists.
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joepinetree posted:The fact that the Buttigieg campaign isn't under intense scrutiny by the party given all of this IS the rigging. https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1224597485781303297
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:All Pete had to do is shut the gently caress up and let his ratfucking do it's work behind closed doors but he was so jazzed by the chance at a victory (ANY victory) that he declared himself the winner. The optics are just mindbogglingly bad, even if you discount his many flaws and many many fuckups the dude doesn't belong anywhere the oval office just because thinking that declaration was a good idea presents a profound stupidity and arrogance. Exactly this. It really does show that not only is he painfully unexperienced but he is stupid as well. Even if you knew you were winning legitimately and some irregularities were happening you sit in your hotel room and shut the gently caress up until it is sorted out.
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Feb 4, 2020 08:49
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Wiltsghost posted:Wait, are you saying that about me? I'm a little tipsy so apologizes if I'm missing something. Ha! No. Little Petey is ex Intelligence, ex McKinsey, and tight with Zuckerberg (who got started with In-Q-Tel (CIA) money). Then he has a political career out of nowhere, hires spies as bodyguards, and funds a voting app that will tally his own votes. Nothing to see here!
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Carew posted:The theory is this denies a bernie victory momentum in the news cycle and allows pete to declare the winner while keeping the numbers unknowable for as long as possible n hoping that's what sticks in the public consciousness. I don't know if it's a full blown conspiracy but all the details surrounding the app and !!SHADOW INC!! gives off extreme Mckinsey vibes Point being, if it's anti-establishment fervor that's driving his campaign, I don't see tonight quelling that in any shape or form.
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cowofwar posted:How does one "hand recount" caucus votes? You open up your hand and it has "Pete" sharpied on it, and repeat.
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I was staring at those women the whole time thinking, "The campaign hunted down the only Black people they could find and placed them there".
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:All Pete had to do is shut the gently caress up and let his ratfucking do it's work behind closed doors but he was so jazzed by the chance at a victory (ANY victory) that he declared himself the winner. The optics are just mindbogglingly bad, even if you discount his many flaws and many many fuckups the dude doesn't belong anywhere the oval office just because thinking that declaration was a good idea presents a profound stupidity and arrogance. Declaring himself victor WAS the ratfucking. Eventually the actual results would come out, the only thing guaranteed to work was to delay the official results as much as possible and then try to make his declaration be the news story. I wouldn't be surprised if his campaign doesn't call him the REAL victor all throughout new Hampshire.
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cowofwar posted:How does one "hand recount" caucus votes? A statewide game of Duck Duck Goose
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cowofwar posted:How does one "hand recount" caucus votes? it's like grading math homework
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FRINGE posted:Ha! No. Little Petey is ex Intelligence, ex McKinsey, and tight with Zuckerberg (who got started with In-Q-Tel (CIA) money). Then he has a political career out of nowhere, hires spies as bodyguards, and funds a voting app that will tally his own votes. Sorry about that, it's been a long evening. I should probably go to bed lol.
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CubanMissile posted:Bernie's people were absolutely ready for this and only had up to 40% reporting by the time Pete declared himself winner. So I'm wondering if he did that based on any numbers at all, like 15%, or did he just say gently caress it and declare without even looking at anything? Pete 100% expected the fix to be in. Dems are brutally incompetent and think we are incredibly stupid.
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cowofwar posted:How does one "hand recount" caucus votes? There's an actual paper record this time around, that's why it was cut down to only two rounds of voting, so they only needed to print "ballots" with two spots.
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Pakled posted:I'm still not convinced that the app fuckup was intentionally orchestrated to benefit Pete. Because I'm not seeing how it actually benefits Pete at all. We can be pretty confident that the actual delegate counts, once they actually get collected, can't have been faked, at least not on a systematic level. This changes the media narrative, and not, as far as I can imagine it, in a way that benefits Pete. If everything had gone off without a hitch, the media, with its "ignoring Bernie" blinders on, would have had two big stories out of the caucuses: 1. Biden collapses, and 2. Pete either wins or has an unexpectedly very strong second place. Now, with the app fuckup, the actual results, which are good for Pete, are falling by the wayside, and whatever momentum he was counting on getting out of Iowa has been severely blunted. I don't think the goal was to rig the vote totals. I do think that, more than an incestuous relationship, this is an example of a corrupt system of patronage. Which is in itself a form of rigging. To rig a vote, to manipulate a result, you don't have to literally change any votes. It doesn't even have to be blatant. Because you are well connected to the party machine, you can get, say, a major newspaper to spike a poll of you in third because said major newspaper wouldn't want to burn bridges with the well connected people. Or you can declare victory and not have a single party official push back publicly. Or you can just shatter people's faith in the system because you know it benefits your candidates. Or you can do no reporting at all on the fact that the app company in charge of delivering the results had a conflict of interest. It's like the giraffe's neck. It's not like a giraffe one day decided to grow it's neck. It's just that through natural selection the ones with the long neck survived. Same thing here. It doesn't have to be that they went "let's rig this for Pete." But it's precisely the type of "problem" that leads to the "natural selection" of all party leadership being corrupt little poo poo heads that engage in patronage. Because you don't need to rig the vote. You can just let people think you did because apathy works in your favor. If you make it an environment where appearances of corruption do not matter, only the system of patronage, and you end up with a bunch of incompetent, unethical people. None of the problems that plagued Iowa and that plague American elections are hard to fix. It's just that the people in charge benefit from it not being fixed.
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this is corny but im honestly so moved by the muslim community turning out for sanders in a big way
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Pakled posted:I'm still not convinced that the app fuckup was intentionally orchestrated to benefit Pete. Because I'm not seeing how it actually benefits Pete at all. We can be pretty confident that the actual delegate counts, once they actually get collected, can't have been faked, at least not on a systematic level. This changes the media narrative, and not, as far as I can imagine it, in a way that benefits Pete. If everything had gone off without a hitch, the media, with its "ignoring Bernie" blinders on, would have had two big stories out of the caucuses: 1. Biden collapses, and 2. Pete either wins or has an unexpectedly very strong second place. Now, with the app fuckup, the actual results, which are good for Pete, are falling by the wayside, and whatever momentum he was counting on getting out of Iowa has been severely blunted. That's an interesting point, but have you considered the fact that Pete and his crew are complete idiots?
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reignonyourparade posted:Declaring himself victor WAS the ratfucking. Eventually the actual results would come out, the only thing guaranteed to work was to delay the official results as much as possible and then try to make his declaration be the news story. I wouldn't be surprised if his campaign doesn't call him the REAL victor all throughout new Hampshire. It was good enough for Dick "The Lich" Cheney, its good enough for lil' Petey.
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Cerebral Bore posted:That's an interesting point, but have you considered the fact that Pete and his crew are complete idiots? Probably a mix of all of the above.
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joepinetree posted:I don't think the goal was to rig the vote totals. I do think that, more than an incestuous relationship, this is an example of a corrupt system of patronage. Which is in itself a form of rigging. Great post. Yeah, the situation is pretty educational with a small state representing a microcosm of the larger american politics, so With the democrats being pathologically liberal to the point of being okay-ish with this sort of shambling mess, how the gently caress they are going to last more than ten years forward if their base is increasingly more militant leftward and with younger people being more and more sympathetic to socialist ideas?
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Cerebral Bore posted:That's an interesting point, but have you considered the fact that Pete and his crew are complete idiots? People who are so sure of themselves being geniuses are also convinced everyone else is stupid. They probably thought no one would be smart enough to see through their scheme.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Great post. Yeah, the situation is pretty educational with a small state representing a microcosm of the larger american politics, so Demoralize them to the point of apathy while holding them hostage with the ever growing specter of right wing fascism?
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reignonyourparade posted:There's an actual paper record this time around, that's why it was cut down to only two rounds of voting, so they only needed to print "ballots" with two spots. Sure but these ballots aren't actual per caucuser records right? They're just tabulated counts of the first realignment and final count right?
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