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And then the Fool committed suicide because Reasons and It. Was. Everything.
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J_RBG posted:And then the Fool committed suicide because Reasons and It. Was. Everything. ban
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cda posted:Moby Dick was mostly ftw but it was kind of tiresome how the whale would just Kramer in all the time and then Ishmael would whitesplain it, meanwhile Ahab kept showing his whole rear end, which was kinda cringey. But I have to admit that in spite of it being problematic, a lot of the story was fairly loving epic and there's all kinds of possibilities for shipping.
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cda posted:Moby Dick was mostly ftw but it was kind of tiresome how the whale would just Kramer in all the time and then Ishmael would whitesplain it, meanwhile Ahab kept showing his whole rear end, which was kinda cringey. But I have to admit that in spite of it being problematic, a lot of the story was fairly loving epic and there's all kinds of possibilities for shipping. this review is my spirit animal
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cda posted:Moby Dick was mostly ftw but it was kind of tiresome how the whale would just Kramer in all the time and then Ishmael would whitesplain it, meanwhile Ahab kept showing his whole rear end, which was kinda cringey. But I have to admit that in spite of it being problematic, a lot of the story was fairly loving epic and there's all kinds of possibilities for shipping.
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EmmyOk posted:Ahab is a messy bitch and that’s the tea sis
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cda posted:whitesplain it quote:But not yet have we solved the incantation of this whiteness, and learned why it appeals with such power to the soul; and more strange and far more portentous- why, as we have seen, it is at once the most meaning symbol of spiritual things, nay, the very veil of the Christian’s Deity; and yet should be as it is, the intensifying agent in things the most appalling to mankind.
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cda posted:Moby Dick was mostly ftw but it was kind of tiresome how the whale would just Kramer in all the time and then Ishmael would whitesplain it, meanwhile Ahab kept showing his whole rear end, which was kinda cringey. But I have to admit that in spite of it being problematic, a lot of the story was fairly loving epic and there's all kinds of possibilities for shipping.
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What the gently caress have I done
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vandalism posted:What the gently caress have I done forums vandalism
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I can't find the chat there was about it a few days ago, but I'm reading The Master and Margerita at the moment. I'm about one hundred pages in, and it's pretty decent. I was in a bar last night, and talking to the Russian barman (who thinks it's a great book as well, to quote him about Bulgakov "He's one of the best. Probably the best.") Anyway, he was saying that Bulgakov's other book, Morphine was better again. Has anyone read it?
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It wouldn't really occur to me to compare it to The Master and Margerita; it's very much of a piece with A Young Doctor's Notebook, being a fairly realistic fictional journal based on Bulgakov's experiences as a young country doctor during the revolution. Honestly, I'd read A Young Doctor's Notebook first if you haven't already, but both are well worth reading.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/world/europe/gabriel-matzneff-pedophilia-france.html Interesting story that acts as a pretty strong condemnation of how corrupt the French literary scene is.
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You're telling me that a French writer is also a pedophile?
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I'm somehow getting less and less and even less surprised the farther down I read.
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I wanted to make a snarky remark or a joke but after I’d read the entire piece I can just say the story made me sad. However, I do enjoy the fact that the fucker got taken down by a book e: he should’ve quit loving a child
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I am kind of disappointed that none of his works have been translated into English because I am kind of curious to see what a cause celebre writing fiction about shameless pederasty reads like I also hope his victim's book eventually gets translated as well.
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im excited for the final death of degenerate europe and its rebirth under the glorious caliphate
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chernobyl kinsman posted:im excited for the final death of degenerate europe and its rebirth under the glorious caliphate It is kind of cool when my perception of Western European contemporary literature as a self-serving circle of navel-gazing libertines is 100% proven true Take the plunge! Okay! posted:e: he should’ve quit loving a child Quit loving a Child, Gabriel, and Read Some Real Literature Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Feb 11, 2020 |
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chernobyl kinsman posted:im excited for the final death of degenerate europe and its rebirth under the glorious caliphate soumission 2: submit harder
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Pictured: French Literary Community
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Tree Goat posted:soumission 2: submit harder
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thought for sure that article was gonna be about houellebecq
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WatermelonGun posted:thought for sure that article was gonna be about houellebecq Nah, his books are navel-gazing about people who can't get an erection anymore. Also racism.
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Kassad posted:Nah, his books are navel-gazing about people who can't get an erection anymore. Also racism. I feel like him and Philip Roth would have gotten along
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Kassad posted:Nah, his books are navel-gazing about people who can't get an erection anymore. Also racism. yup no boners in the elementary particles or platform
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i'm pretty sure that if houellebecq was a paedophile we'd know about it, or at least be easily able to infer it from his writing and commentary. he's not a particularly opaque character. he should put it on a book jacket: houellebecq: almost certainly not a paedo!
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there’s absolutely no way he’s not going to write some article about this
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houellebecq may be the only french author id bet against being a pedophile
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One thing the article doesn't make fully clear is that Matzneff has been regarded as a huge piece of poo poo for as long as I can remember and this only the latest (and the most successful) attempt to bring him to justice. At this point, it can be assumed that every French intellectual who didn't speak out against him since the late 70s is cowardly or complicit e: Yeah, what Tree Goat said
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There is a level of decadence to this entire thing that is just insane. Like this quote from a separate article really sums it upquote:Pierre Verdrager, a sociologist and author of “L’Enfant Interdit,” or “Forbidden Child,” a book on the politics surrounding pedophilia in the 1970s, said that what united its defenders was the belief that France had an “aristocracy” that was not bound to ordinary norms of conduct.
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WatermelonGun posted:yup no boners in the elementary particles or platform Yeah, that was some probably unfair on my part, I was mostly thinking of the main character in Submission since I've seen him described as not finding sex interesting anymore. I have to confess that I've never read any of Houellebecq's books, the summaries I've read all just made them seem unappealing. That and the racism.
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the racism in Soumission is vastly overblown by the media controversy imo. sure, some could argue it perpetuates the myth that polygamy is common in islam in a way, but other than that it’s just another typical novel about “bored middle aged professor goes from ennui to horny” but with the twist that the muslim brotherhood gains political power in france
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those reading it with the hopes of being outraged and those reading it hoping it’ll be edgy enough to look cool to their frog avatared friends will be equally disappointed
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Mel Mudkiper posted:So I guess you ain't no Houellebecq girl Boo
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Kassad posted:Yeah, that was some probably unfair on my part, I was mostly thinking of the main character in Submission since I've seen him described as not finding sex interesting anymore. I have to confess that I've never read any of Houellebecq's books, the summaries I've read all just made them seem unappealing. That and the racism. his books are pretty well written and i quite like the elementary particles. he’s still a disgusting frog but he isn’t william luther pierce.
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ulvir posted:with the twist that the muslim brotherhood gains political power in france That's actually the bit that put me off the most about this book. It's pure fantasy on par with having Al Qaeda take over the USA. In reality, a religious Muslim party would have literally zero support and it's the far-right that's becoming increasingly mainstream in France (this was already true in 2015 when the book was published).
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