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Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

angryrobots posted:

I didn't say anything about the Luddites, someone else made that reference.

Yeah but the luddites are an often referenced and very well known event where:

angryrobots posted:

I mean that in more of the historical context, there have been many transitions over the years of human history where entire job sectors were created and eroded as new technologies manifested.

It's an exemplary case study on this kind of thing.

Only here we are seeing technology be used to the detriment of the consumer/customer, as opposed to labor.

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Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Somehow I feel vindicated.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

BraveUlysses posted:

man, PJ was so goddamned good right out the gate. i love their live recordings from the 90s.

idk though, i dont feel like phones really changed concerts that much?

The comment was more towards living in the early 90's thing versus today overall I think. The 90's was definitely the most fun for me being in my 20's so I have a soft spot for that decade.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
The thing about the 90s, especially the early 90s, is you had all these countries going "well that authoritarian communism thing hasn't worked out so well, let's have some elections" the Berlin Wall came down, Mandela got out of prison, Bush got shitcanned etc etc. There was a lot more hope that things were going to keep getting better. I remember Clinton saying in his inauguration speech "there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be fixed by what is right with America".

That doesn't feel as true any more.

And of course, the end of the decade went to poo poo for a lot of people with genocides and brutal civil war.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy

BlackMK4 posted:

Software unlock when

Similar to the i3 extra fuel tank capacity / hold battery charge mode

Eh i'd guess since the cars are always connected now what with integrated LTE and now Car2X that it would be harder to hack your way into features. Not impossible obviously but you'd probably lose the connectivity and most people wouldnt be willing to make that sacrifice.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Colostomy Bag posted:

Just wait until the road taxes really start to kick in.

Considering cars aged 40 years UK are longer charged road tax (because the amount of cars this age regularly running around isn't exactly a large number) I'm more wondering what the petrol availability/cost is going to be like in future.

(I say this like any of my projects are going to be done :v: )

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Olympic Mathlete posted:

Considering cars aged 40 years UK are longer charged road tax (because the amount of cars this age regularly running around isn't exactly a large number) I'm more wondering what the petrol availability/cost is going to be like in future.

(I say this like any of my projects are going to be done :v: )

Viva la revolution of the 1980 hot hatch!

Peugeot 205 GTI.
Renault 5 GT Turbo.
Vauxhall Astra GTE 16v.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Oh man an old boss of mine had a 1980 Golf GTI that I learned a hell of a lot about fwd dynamics while bashing around the backstreets of North Melbourne in the late 90s. Good times.

gently caress I'm old.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Personally, I expect gas to get cheaper as demand goes down, but, because capitalism, it's entirely possible for the opposite to happen.
Conversely, watch electricity get expensive.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Darchangel posted:

Personally, I expect gas to get cheaper as demand goes down, but, because capitalism, it's entirely possible for the opposite to happen.
Conversely, watch electricity get expensive.

aren't you assuming that the supply of gasoline remains the same? there's always the very cost effective option of leaving the crude in the ground.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:


I like how the front "knock-off" is already gone.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice

Darchangel posted:

Personally, I expect gas to get cheaper as demand goes down, but, because capitalism, it's entirely possible for the opposite to happen.
Conversely, watch electricity get expensive.

There should be a lot more competition in the electricity market when regular people have access to their own "wells" to extract energy from. However, legislation, the cost of solar panels & turbines, and the the no-doubt fact that in the future, more and more regular people will be increasingly priced out of actually owning property (versus perpetually renting) will work against it.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!



Why will these things not die and go away?

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

aren't you assuming that the supply of gasoline remains the same? there's always the very cost effective option of leaving the crude in the ground.

I am, and you are correct of course.
I do look forward to several nations who are rich for no other reason than “they have oil” going back to being worthless sandboxes.

NoWake posted:

There should be a lot more competition in the electricity market when regular people have access to their own "wells" to extract energy from. However, legislation, the cost of solar panels & turbines, and the the no-doubt fact that in the future, more and more regular people will be increasingly priced out of actually owning property (versus perpetually renting) will work against it.

Not to mention that several states and energy providers are actually *penalizing* private citizens generating their own power. Capitalism at its worst.


Oh, just stop, now.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Darchangel posted:

I am, and you are correct of course.
I do look forward to several nations who are rich for no other reason than “they have oil” going back to being worthless sandboxes.

At least some of those nations are realizing the one resource they have in greater abundance than oil is sunshine, and could supply all their water needs through solar powered desalination, and can grow food in the shade of the solar panels, so could transition out of oil dependence a lot faster than other nations. They'll probably still be fine.

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

Terrible car stuff: the guy who parks outside my window at work with a late 90's Explorer. If he cold starts it it stumbles and dies, so instead three times I day I get to hear him start it and bounce it off the rev limiter for 2-3 minutes until its warm enough to idle I guess.

To it's credit he's been doing this for almost a year and it still runs so good work I guess. But come on, it's probably a $15 IAC valve or a vacuum leak or something dude.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
seafoam his car for him


don't tell him before you do it

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Darchangel posted:

Why will these things not die and go away?

How is it that the second the police see these things the person isn't immediately pulled over? You would definitely be looking at a defective vehicle notice here, which means they slap a huge yellow sticker on your windscreen, and take your number plates away so you have to have the vehicle towed.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
What police?

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

It's Texas. They're too busy looking for people going 4 mph over the limit, or stopping people with a license plate bulb out. Or stopping them for looking "out of place" (twice now, both times pulling into my apt complex, same cop... :fuckoff:)

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Darchangel posted:

I do look forward to several nations who are rich for no other reason than “they have oil” going back to being worthless sandboxes.

Suck it, Norway!

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Reminds me of the Chariot chase from Three Stooges Meet Hercules:

https://youtu.be/vtf7YZi35GY?t=110

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

STR posted:

It's Texas. They're too busy looking for people going 4 mph over the limit, or stopping people with a license plate bulb out. Or stopping them for looking "out of place" (twice now, both times pulling into my apt complex, same cop... :fuckoff:)

It's actually kinda nice being able to speed with impunity near downtown Dallas. The cops never stop anybody. Hell, you hardly ever see them on the freeway.

Of course, that's dependent on traffic flowing well enough that you can achieve any sort of speed in the first place.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Memento posted:

How is it that the second the police see these things the person isn't immediately pulled over? You would definitely be looking at a defective vehicle notice here, which means they slap a huge yellow sticker on your windscreen, and take your number plates away so you have to have the vehicle towed.

STR posted:

It's Texas. They're too busy looking for people going 4 mph over the limit, or stopping people with a license plate bulb out. Or stopping them for looking "out of place" (twice now, both times pulling into my apt complex, same cop... :fuckoff:)

'Merca!
It *is* illegal to have poo poo sticking that far out of the bodywork most places, BTW, but your police have to give a poo poo.

canyoneer posted:

Suck it, Norway!

Nah, they've got... uh... snow? too?

The Ferret King posted:

It's actually kinda nice being able to speed with impunity near downtown Dallas. The cops never stop anybody. Hell, you hardly ever see them on the freeway.

Of course, that's dependent on traffic flowing well enough that you can achieve any sort of speed in the first place.

Yep, and, yep.

dphi
Jul 9, 2001

For anyone not aware, these things cost like $5-10k a set depending on how annoying you want them.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

STR posted:

It's Texas. They're too busy looking for people going 4 mph over the limit, or stopping people with a license plate bulb out. Or stopping them for looking "out of place" (twice now, both times pulling into my apt complex, same cop... :fuckoff:)

At least in Texas 4 over is a reasonable speed of travel.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

I’m suddenly imagining a super wide bro truck obliviously passing that monstrosity, ripping off the extensions and puncturing the truck tires, and the drivers getting into a violent fistfight on the side of the road
:allears:

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


david_a posted:

I’m suddenly imagining a super wide bro truck obliviously passing that monstrosity, ripping off the extensions and puncturing the truck tires, and the drivers getting into a violent fistfight on the side of the road
:allears:

I like the way you think.

ili
Jul 26, 2003


dphi posted:

For anyone not aware, these things cost like $5-10k a set depending on how annoying you want them.

People pay for that poo poo? gently caress a duck, I figured it was halfwits bodgying poo poo up in the back shed. Yeesh.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

ili posted:

People pay for that poo poo? gently caress a duck, I figured it was halfwits bodgying poo poo up in the back shed. Yeesh.

These two scenarios are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they probably depend on each other.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
All that weight that far off the wheel has to absolutely annihilate wheel bearings, don't they? Like the polar opposite of how deep dish rims do?

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

The Ferret King posted:

It's actually kinda nice being able to speed with impunity near downtown Dallas. The cops never stop anybody. Hell, you hardly ever see them on the freeway.

Of course, that's dependent on traffic flowing well enough that you can achieve any sort of speed in the first place.

True, Dallas cops aren't gonna stop you for anything. They're stretched so thin that traffic enforcement is at the bottom of their list. You can't even get them to come out for a non-injury accident, even when a SUV is wedged under an 18 wheeler (was a witness to that one, the cop finally showed up after 4 hours, yelled at us for wasting his time because nobody was hurt, and told everyone to figure out how to get the SUV out from under it :fuckoff: - that was in downtown right in front of the Amtrak station).

75 is never flowing fast enough to get a ticket until you're north of 635 and it's after 8pm or so (and Richardson, Plano, Allen, etc will stop you in a hurry).

Elviscat posted:

At least in Texas 4 over is a reasonable speed of travel.

If you're not going at least 10 over on major highways in TX, you're gonna get run off the road. 20 over on some roads. We have one highway (toll) with an 85 mph limit here, and I've had people blow past me when I was already doing 95.

Austin PD has really stepped up speed enforcement on US 183, but they're generally in the same spots every day. I know they've tagged me doing 10 over a few times and ignored me, seems like they're going for people going significantly faster than traffic. But I've been stopped for <5 over in the suburb I live in (49 in a 45). Also been stopped (twice) for driving a shitbox in said suburb. Both times by the same cop, both times as I was pulling into my apartment complex, but in two different cars. I hadn't been pulled over in over a decade before moving here, and haven't had anything but a parking ticket since 2005. :argh: (still haven't had a ticket, it seems like they're just bored as hell here)

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


I consistently see vehicles with Texas plates driving in not Texas, nor bordering Texas, aggressively driving 20+ over surrounding traffic.

Same applies to Georgia plate vehicles with county stickers that are part of Metro Atlanta.

dphi
Jul 9, 2001

ili posted:

People pay for that poo poo? gently caress a duck, I figured it was halfwits bodgying poo poo up in the back shed. Yeesh.

https://www.texanwirewheels.com/

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
How can that be legal. I mean I know it's the US, but still.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Legal ambiguity sure, but if you got into an at fault accident with those dumb things, lord help you.

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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

MrOnBicycle posted:

How can that be legal. I mean I know it's the US, but still.

It probably isn't.

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