Books On Tape posted:

I went on Amazon and bought a 25 pound bucket of pinto beans, a 25 pound bucket of rice, a 50 gallon rainwater collection barrel that I could fill with a hose. Based on a previous recommendation, bought the 80 gallon BOB that could be placed in the tub, and a propane cooking stove. I’ll buy a propane tank next time I’m near Home Depot. Have about 25 pounds of flour I use to make pasta with, and enough canned veggies and other pantry items that my family wouldn’t have to leave the house if necessary for at least 6-8 weeks if properly rationed, even if utilities were out.

I’m not going to go more overboard than that. Cost about $200 for all of the stuff I just bought, and if it proves to be unnecessary, I can water the lawn with the water, use the beans and rice over time, and have a portable stove (can also use butane) for camping.

Feel better that family could hunker down in the unlikely event, and that I don’t have to go panic buying anything even if things become evidently serious.

Couple weeks ago, I also dropped $170 stocking up on general medical supplies: Masks, warm mister, decongestants, and vapor products to keep lungs clear.

Edit: I also live in Texas, and spring isn’t too far off. When at Home Depot, I’ll also invest in seeds. Have a nice garden in the backyard that currently isn’t planted. Would be a good idea to change that this season. Will grow lots of green beans and peas and other veggies that could go well with rice and beans.

VikingSkull posted:

im painting warhammer 40k planes

Mithaldu posted:

Actually what do you base that answer on?

Both the infected and the deaths counts counts increased by over 2x on the same day. There is no reason for the deaths to increase that much given previous behavior, unless:

- they were generally under-reporting and resynchronized
or
- cases previously not considered diagnosed, but already dead, were now considered diagnosed and added to the death count retroactively

In both cases 100 of those new deaths wouldn't be actually new since yesterday, but only added retroactively.

Mithaldu posted:

Actually what do you base that answer on?

Both the infected and the deaths counts counts increased by over 2x on the same day. There is no reason for the deaths to increase that much given previous behavior, unless:

- they were generally under-reporting and resynchronized
or
- cases previously not considered diagnosed, but already dead, were now considered diagnosed and added to the death count retroactively

In both cases 100 of those new deaths wouldn't be actually new since yesterday, but only added retroactively.

Rat posted:

They're all new deaths that include people that until today wouldn't have been reported as COVID-19 because there were no confirmed tests. The deaths would have just been mystery pneumonia or other categories

They can now, going forward, count these likely deaths without a positive test

Mozi posted:

if there were ~100 people who were positively tested that died and ~100 people who were diagnosed but not tested that died that would explain it, no?

i can't find the source for this that includes the death numbers though

Mithaldu posted:

So option 2 i described.
Yeah, me neither, but alright, no info to dissuade from agreeing with the assumption about the "mystery deaths" being diagnosed, but untested; instead of yesterday actually having had 240 new deaths.

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

Screenshotted 1 hour apart:

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

I don't even know what KAG is

Spinz posted:

If you get into this like I morbidly have the cspam thread has a lot more detail and links

Sinteres posted:

Keep America Great

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

Ah. Nevertheless I figured that I was verging on being political online and deleted it.

Rat posted:

Without anything retroactively done

A lot more people are dying at home than can be tested. Today might be the first half accurate number for it. There are hundreds or thousands of other people who died in the last few months that will not be counted. That's the death number for today

Functionally the first day where people dying at home count. 60% of crematorium traffic comes from homes

Spinz posted:

If you get into this like I morbidly have the cspam thread has a lot more detail and links

Just an fyi friendly service message

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3912152

Burt Sexual posted:

This thread (and many others) will inherently have political undertones, my position is just don’t start poo poo for that reason or get into long slapfights about politics. We can tell the difference, it’s not hard.

Play posted:

DID YOU KNOW that Pangolins are the most-trafficked non-human mammal? According to National Geographic tens of thousands of pangolins are poached every year, killed for their scales for use in traditional Chinese medicine for treating ailments ranging from lactation difficulties to arthritis. And for their meat, a delicacy among some ultra-wealthy in China and Vietnam.

They are the only animal covered head to toe in keratin scales which are somewhat like gigantic fingernails. Though they look and act a lot like anteaters and armadillos, they're actually more closely related to bears, cats and dogs.

THE MORE YOU KNOW *rainbow star*

Mithaldu posted:

I don't believe it, but we'll see.

Edit: I realized that it is possible that if they were doing retroactive work that it may not be complete yet. So a more accurate question is:

I expect that the death increases in the following days will end up dropping down again over time, maybe even immediately if they actually did all the retroactive work today, resulting in the deaths delta either being around 100-150 tomorrow or approaching the curve indicated from past days over time.

You expect that starting tomorrow the deaths delta will have a new baseline at 240 and start increasing from there, correct?

Charlz Guybon posted:

It's not cumulative. Yesterday's new cases should have been 6500

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227748006105055232

Mithaldu posted:

I don't believe it, but we'll see.

Edit: I realized that it is possible that if they were doing retroactive work that it may not be complete yet. So a more accurate question is:

I expect that the death increases in the following days will end up dropping down again over time, maybe even immediately if they actually did all the retroactive work today, resulting in the deaths delta either being around 100-150 tomorrow or approaching the curve indicated from past days over time.

You expect that starting tomorrow the deaths delta will have a new baseline at 240 and start increasing from there, correct?

Mithaldu posted:

isn't cspam for poo poo-posting worse than gbs?

Mithaldu posted:

It should've been 6500 new cases yesterday if they had applied the new rule yesterday, and if they had applied it the day before yesterday it would've been like 4k cases yesterday and 3500 the day before that, etc. etc.

BNO is assuming retro-activity, and Rat is for some reason not.

Rat posted:

Yes I expect it will be working from the baseline of 240. Not down around 100 like the previous day. Since nothing had been mentioned about retroactively counting cases (aside from you) and that would make the numbers look good... not anticipating that announcement retroactively

Mithaldu posted:

Yes, i know quite a few people believe this. Here's why i don't:

If it's true then it is completely and utterly batshit insane from every possible angle and the situation is already completely out of control and we're all dead.

Mithaldu posted:

There's a very simple reason i'm assuming that: If you're right about this past day literally having had 240 fresh corpses and each new day after that will have an increasing number of fresh corpses higher than that, then there are at least 1000 corpses currently missing from the totals that everyone is reporting. More scarily, the same logic must apply to the infections, so there would be at least 50000 infections missing from the current totals.

Rat posted:

You don't think that's the case? I think 50,000 is a low estimate.

The figures for this pandemic are going to come with a great deal of asterisks

I would like to not be right about this

Rat posted:

I would like to not be right about this

quote:

Of the 14,840 cases added, 13,332 are due to the new classification while 1,508 are new cases.

Mithaldu posted:

I don't think they'd knowingly and intentionally keep the 50k out of the numbers.

Bronze Fonz posted:

What makes you think this is beyond the CCP?
I'm genuinely asking.

Mithaldu posted:

Mozi posted:

#1, look up the size of these cities in china. 100k people is not an overly large fraction

#2, even with the previously known cases there were already shortages of resources. i'm sure they've been asking for as much as they can possibly get

Spinz posted:

Giggle

Sorry but this is hilarious
The CSpam Wuhan Flu thread I linked earlier today saying hey its good and has more detail etc.?

Now it's completely derailed into a slapfight with someone accusing a poster of being Guyovich a permad ex mod and admin iirc

Smh lol