Lungboy posted:I'm surprised by all the love for Burgeon in here. I know he's a lefty but whenever I've seen him talk he comes across as dumber than a box of particularly dumb rocks, like a claystone or greywacke or something. I'm not hugely thrilled by any of the candidates in either race really. Try watching the Novara interview, he came across well there IMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr6YD63GuRE
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Sanitary Naptime posted:We won’t, Scottish exceptionalism is a myth. Independent Scotland won't be a paradise and certainly has it's own problems but in my life time Scotland has gotten the government it voted for in 97, 01?(forget the exact date but it was when I was still in High School) and 05 and if you don't find that a tiny bit aggravating then fair enough but clearly lots of people do. Just shy half the voting public as of 2014 and we've had 3 more general elections where the party Scotland voted for didn't win. Which will take us to 14 and a half years Tory government as of thr next scheduled general election. The rest of the country clearly doesn't give a gently caress about what Scotland thinks so I think it's not unreasonable to say gently caress 'em back. Sure, it could be a loving disaster but at some point I don't think I care. At least a newly independent country could start from scratch with a less bad electoral system, leading to a broadening of the political debate. Because hey, we tried entryism in a FPTP system and it failed. And it isn't as if electoral reform is going to be on the agenda in this parliament, is it? I put my Yes vote behind me for the Corbyn years, I gave Britain a chance and all I got for it was a 50 seat Tory majority and Labour people talking about giving up and just voting Starmer because a Blairite is better than nothing. If they can give up why the gently caress can't I?
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forkboy84 posted:Independent Scotland won't be a paradise and certainly has it's own problems but in my life time Scotland has gotten the government it voted for in 97, 01?(forget the exact date but it was when I was still in High School) and 05 and if you don't find that a tiny bit aggravating then fair enough but clearly lots of people do. Just shy half the voting public as of 2014 and we've had 3 more general elections where the party Scotland voted for didn't win. Which will take us to 14 and a half years Tory government as of thr next scheduled general election. And even if it doesn't immediately work out, if you give it a couple of years your country can get itself together. The Republic had some teething problems, but we are doing okay now. It's not perfect, but give it time and an independent Scotland should work out.
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https://twitter.com/epiplexis_/status/1229427713519292416?s=20
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 18:57 |
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I think this eugenicist business is actually kind of a big deal. This is the first just absolutely unacceptable thing the Tories have done since the election. So this is a test of what they can get away with. I think the Tories (or Cummings anyway) want to play the Trump game of just not caring about criticism over awful poo poo and just waiting for the news cycle to move on. So the real question is whether the news media will keep criticism of this up, or let them get away with it. I'm not optimistic.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Can't change my 1950, it's greyed out. Can't see any option to run as administrator! Maybe I'm being dim. This is a tech support shitpost and I have no idea if it might help, but: it could be a group policy setting maybe? If your computer is gpo managed (i.e. corporate).
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:10 |
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what show is this
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:20 |
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The Seinfeld sequel.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:20 |
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Guavanaut posted:The Seinfeld sequel. Rewatching Seinfeld you get surprised by how occasionally racist it is. The sequel's just homophobic (oh Ross you married a lesbian and Chandler you're seen as gay and have a gay father, how funny). e: here's a bunch of homophobic moments I forgot about, since the above isn't quite that bad e2: Here's the Daily Mail take, because I have nothing better to do than look it up. quote:Critics are slamming the popular sitcom Seinfeld as offensive, calling many of its jokes tone-deaf and distasteful. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Feb 17, 2020 |
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i don't know anything about burger or his politics, and i ain't voting for no man but i do really like his enormous face
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:28 |
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Hodges weighs in with his classic big brain style
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Comrade Fakename posted:I think this eugenicist business is actually kind of a big deal. This is the first just absolutely unacceptable thing the Tories have done since the election. So this is a test of what they can get away with. I think the Tories (or Cummings anyway) want to play the Trump game of just not caring about criticism over awful poo poo and just waiting for the news cycle to move on. I think in a few years the media orthodoxy will be that anyone opposed to measuring the shape of skulls is a wild-eyed lunatic.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 19:34 |
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Private Speech posted:This is a tech support shitpost and I have no idea if it might help, but: it could be a group policy setting maybe? If your computer is gpo managed (i.e. corporate). No - just me, personal laptop. MInd you I bought it in Cairo so maybe they did something there. (Have had it 4 years now and this is the first time I haven't been able to fiddle with something). If you were true tech support though, you would have said 'turn it off and on again'.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:No - just me, personal laptop. MInd you I bought it in Cairo so maybe they did something there. (Have had it 4 years now and this is the first time I haven't been able to fiddle with something). Nah that would be a weird thing to mess around with. Dunno then.
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Lol, we were talking about the job application process in here the other day: https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/1229471270321954822?s=20
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Qwertycoatl posted:I think in a few years the media orthodoxy will be that anyone opposed to measuring the shape of skulls is a wild-eyed lunatic. I think you're out of your mind. it'll be orthodoxy in a matter of weeks.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Heavily brexit supporting Even if that is the cause though, Wales still did vote heavily in favour of Brexit. Can't see any statistical utility in adjusting for the age of the population save to note the high Brexit vote doesn't look like a uniquely Welsh thing
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Yeah thinking more and more it's got to be Burgon 1st pref for me now, Dawn 2nd: https://twitter.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1229374992598650880?s=20
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e: ^^^God drat. That they're not supported by total loving idiots? Borrovan fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Feb 17, 2020 |
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WhatEvil posted:Yeah thinking more and more it's got to be Burgon 1st pref for me now, Dawn 2nd: The words are good and sound, the delivery is dull as ditchwater unfortunately.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:04 |
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"Scottish exceptionalism is a myth" for a lot of people seems to mean "so we might as well not even bother trying to improve things".
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alice reveal yourself bijch https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/1229479603615432704
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Coohoolin posted:"Scottish exceptionalism is a myth" for a lot of people seems to mean "so we might as well not even bother trying to improve things". What do you mean by exceptionalism in this regard?
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thespaceinvader posted:The words are good and sound, the delivery is dull as ditchwater unfortunately. Who cares? It's the Deputy Leader. It's a position that only really matters within the party
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Tesseraction posted:What do you mean by exceptionalism in this regard? i'm referring to the earlier point made, unionists like to accuse independence supporters of being misty eyed about some inherent magical scottish characteristic that will usher in a millenium of socialism once freed from the Hated English Yoke (TM) because a lot of people look at the voting trends and make the relatively safe assumption that the lack of tory votes, massive support for universalist healthcare and education policies, and overwhelming pro immigration views might indicate that an independent scotland would probably have a better average government than the UK (not that that's a high bar). There is no magical scottish socialist gene, sure. But no one's arguing that, not seriously, and pretending that's a big facet of the independence argument is disingenuous. It also doesn't matter, because the question for socialists isn't "would an independent scotland magically fix everything", but "is a socialist society more achievable in an independent scotland or a british scotland", and I think that's becoming an easier and easier question to answer. Just because it won't usher in a thousand year socialist era with a finger snap is absolutely no reason to not support it.
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That's fair.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:23 |
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Although tbh I would argue that without the English to blame for the problems, it's still pretty likely that austerity will start coming in thick and fast - ask Ireland.
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Tesseraction posted:Although tbh I would argue that without the English to blame for the problems, it's still pretty likely that austerity will start coming in thick and fast - ask Ireland. maybe, but that's extremely hypothetical and i keep getting told that scotland and ireland are not comparable situations so whatever.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Wales is no kind of socialist utopia contrary to what seems to be popular belief around here. Ha ha, what? How long have you been 'Welsh'? Also does the UK leave the EU on Dec 31st no matter the state of negotiations?
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Coohoolin posted:i'm referring to the earlier point made, unionists like to accuse independence supporters of being misty eyed about some inherent magical scottish characteristic that will usher in a millenium of socialism once freed from the Hated English Yoke (TM) because a lot of people look at the voting trends and make the relatively safe assumption that the lack of tory votes, massive support for universalist healthcare and education policies, and overwhelming pro immigration views might indicate that an independent scotland would probably have a better average government than the UK (not that that's a high bar). 24% of votes, making the the second largest party in parliament doesn’t say “lack of Tory votes” to me
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Tesseraction posted:Although tbh I would argue that without the English to blame for the problems, it's still pretty likely that austerity will start coming in thick and fast - ask Ireland. This isn't a proper analysis of the Irish Independence movement. Yes, a lot of the energy around the 1916 Rising was Socialist in nature. However, the majority of the left leaning leaders either died in or were executed after the Rising. The Independence movement was still there - and if anything it became more popular after the Rising - but the new leadership was either Catholic Conservative with De Valera or (potentially) of a military dictatorship flavour under Michael Collins. quote:Although often cast by his political opponents as a revolutionary, de Valera disliked the term and was anxious to emphasise his moderation: to offset the effects of those of his critics in 1917-18 who likened his followers to the Bolsheviks, de Valera stated that 'they were called by certain people the Revolutionary Party. Were they called the Conservative Party they would be more correctly named. They would conserve the spirit of true Irish nationality. https://books.openedition.org/psn/5216?lang=en
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Cerv posted:24% of votes, making the the second largest party in parliament doesn’t say “lack of Tory votes” to me av title / post combo
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:48 |
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People are genuinely debating the benefits and drawbacks of eugenics on Twitter. What a time to be alive.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:53 |
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John Snow just said your eugenics weirdo resigned
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:57 |
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crispix posted:John Snow just said your eugenics weirdo resigned Not too surprising tbh, given boris being lazy. Hopeful though! If he can keep loving up and then backtracking rather than powering through it's going to be a fun government to watch.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 20:59 |
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https://twitter.com/AndrewSabisky/s...-tv-debate-live Poor bloke wasn't even given a chance to eradicate the browns before the Twitter mob chased him away.
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Private Speech posted:Rewatching Seinfeld you get surprised by how occasionally racist it is. The sequel's just homophobic (oh Ross you married a lesbian and Chandler you're seen as gay and have a gay father, how funny). I thought Chandler's "father" was trans? I remember Kathleen Turner playing her, which is a real shame because because I always thought she was one of the good ones
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:01 |
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Very rude of people to selectively quote my old book, Mein Kampf.
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# ? Feb 17, 2020 21:02 |
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bessantj posted:Also does the UK leave the EU on Dec 31st no matter the state of negotiations? There's one more opportunity to extend in, I want to say, June, but otherwise we're out at the end of Dec 31st, no matter how completely unprepared we are.
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Labour leader debate is on Channel 4 in case anyone is interested. Join #ukgoons on synirc to meet likeminded singles who may also be watching link in op
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