|
I’ve seen the AI make those long states once the climate change ravages them down to effectively opm but with outsized borders since no one is left to conquer them. As they slowly move north. Not really realistic but idk what realism is supposed to be if all those states survive that long lol.
|
#
?
Feb 12, 2020 23:41
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 2, 2024 06:30 |
|
|
I've seen Long Chile before because the "mare nostrum" casus belli that some policies can unlock gets hilariously OP in certain conditions: Because warscore ticks up superfast if you hold the province you can yoink coastal provinces while the target is distracted with another war or with rebellions. This was, as usual, balanced for Europe and thats why sometimes you can get Long Vietnam or Long Florida
|
|
#
?
Feb 13, 2020 19:06
|
|
|
 My Idaho playthrough is starting nicely. Used the "own the libs CB" on Oregon a couple of times, and poached a revolting province off of California before Duke Newsome's doomstack could respond. Going to try to the same on Washington once the 'liberal outrage' modifier drops a bit. Only problem is these provinces suck, no income, resources or manpower. And if I try and annex Portland or Seattle the libs will vote me out of office even with the +20% modifier to steal elections. Ah well. Might try and turn them into parking lots for my Ford-350s.
|
|
#
?
Feb 19, 2020 15:40
|
|
|
are F-350 technicals really better than the hilux? I’m kinda confused by all the different units that vary only slightly in ways irrelevant to their intended use
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 00:34
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:are F-350 technicals really better than the hilux? I’m kinda confused by all the different units that vary only slightly in ways irrelevant to their intended use Oh gosh no. If you're going for a WC run, you should only use hiluxes, suicide motorboats, motorcycle couriers, and once you unlock the tech, antifa super-soldiers. Three or four swarms of 999,999 hiluxes can easily wipe out the starting American doomstack for a fraction of the cost. The other units are mostly for historical accuracy but you wouldn't want to really use them in a real war, much like they found out in the real avacado wars.
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 00:48
|
|
|
Has pdox said anything about addressing the midgame slowdown? i swear, this thing's running at like half of real-time
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 01:03
|
|
|
i've been getting massive slowdowns starting with 2016
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 03:30
|
|
|
It hates anything short of 256/1024 core/threads CPUs, if you're still on those lovely Intel Ares Lakes or AMD QX CPU, that's what'cha gonna deal with. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 04:09
|
|
|
Stairmaster posted:i've been getting massive slowdowns starting with 2016 The culprit's usually the end_of_history script, which was never intended to run that long, and was a half-assed implementation to begin with. Sadly, no one's bothered coding a replacement.
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 04:45
|
|
|
Are the AI election candidates programmed to dogpile the player? Cause it really feels like it sometimes. I'm playing on 5°, or whatever the medium difficulty's called, the lowest one that enables cheevos.
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 06:01
|
|
|
Stairmaster posted:i've been getting massive slowdowns starting with 2016 the game starts processing hundreds or even thousands of "nothing matters" events in the background starting in 2016 and ramping up from there
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 06:11
|
|
|
there’s also eventually millions of simulons just chanting “TRUMP TMRUP TRMP “ starting from just a few in early 2016 I don’t know if you could get around this short of nuking NYC on turn 1 as Russia
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 06:27
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:there’s also eventually millions of simulons just chanting “TRUMP TMRUP TRMP “ starting from just a few in early 2016 Technically no presidency is hardcoded but even if you nuke New York in one of the 90s start date the system will dynamically generate another New York Billionaire Candidate and run most of the historical Trump events with just a name swap
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 08:19
|
|
|
sullat posted:
Starting mid-2030s you'll get a major event chain to put up the Bundy Revolt Memorial in one of those east Oregon provinces, which'll give you prestige and conversion bonuses, so hang on to that one. The northeast California province also has some rare earths in it, so if the Foxconn Secession kicked off you can probably sell those to anyone still making smartphones, assuming the internet still exists in your playthrough.
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 08:46
|
|
|
Pacho posted:Technically no presidency is hardcoded but even if you nuke New York in one of the 90s start date the system will dynamically generate another New York Billionaire Candidate and run most of the historical Trump events with just a name swap i think that's glitching out for me. i'm still a few years away from the Jeb! coronation/avocado wars, and somehow have an election where the two candidates both have the "NY billionaire" trait. also, they both have very similar political traits, although different wealth/decorum/brain stats. they're similar enough that the next 4 game years will be pretty much the same no matter who wins. i just want the devs to alleviate how boring and predictable this makes the game
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 23:09
|
|
|
Man, the Seduction focus in this game is way darker than the one in CKXIX
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 23:19
|
|
|
redleader posted:i think that's glitching out for me. i'm still a few years away from the Jeb! coronation/avocado wars, and somehow have an election where the two candidates both have the "NY billionaire" trait. also, they both have very similar political traits, although different wealth/decorum/brain stats. they're similar enough that the next 4 game years will be pretty much the same no matter who wins. i just want the devs to alleviate how boring and predictable this makes the game this is one of the reasons I've always said that the Jeb! route sucks, since it locks you into boring poo poo for like a decade of game time; if you make sure Bernard Sanders is in a district with at least a Level 5 hospital after the Heart Attack Gun event, it heads off the Guacamelee, but 2020 onward is super interesting and can go all kinds of ways Guacamelee doesn't live up to the hype, anyway- you get the internment camp militia doomstacks, and casus belli against Texas/Long Florida- but you can liberate the camps in the fifth Bernination event -and- you get Class War CB against any capitalist/fascist/feudal country, which is almost all of them. It's weird to think about, but barbarians pretty much ruled the world back then; you're not missing out on much by giving up CB versus socialist/communist states like you would if this game were set in the modern era
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2020 23:26
|
|
|
Krazyface posted:Man, the Seduction focus in this game is way darker than the one in CKXIX I know there's some evidence for the sex abuse ring stuff but it seems like every businessman ends up with the event where they try to seduce their daughter, its way too low a MTTH
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2020 00:29
|
|
|
really in the end this might all be our fault for making them remove decadence
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2020 00:32
|
|
|
on a lighter note if you want some funny events manually give a billionaire/oligarch the “leftist bro” trait
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2020 00:34
|
|
|
Krazyface posted:Man, the Seduction focus in this game is way darker than the one in CKXIX It's actually kind of darkly humorous if you know the history of the DoC games. You see, the Church of Kevorkian complained about the lack of suicide in the original, so it featured prominently in DoC2 (please don't start a religion flamewar, I'm just stating facts). Well, we all remember the backlash from that one, so suicide and a bunch of other "evil" actions were removed in DoC3 and beyond. Actors simply can't perform them; they have to be "killed" by someone else. Except Paradox is two things more than anything else: efficient and lazy. The code is long gone, but some event text remains unaltered, because why change the description of an (allegedly) historical event? Anyway, this is why the game claims Jeffrey Epstein killed himself even though that's literally impossible.
|
|
#
?
Feb 21, 2020 01:30
|
|
|
Okay, normally I don't like to complain about AI cheating, but this is a new level of bullshit. So I'm trying for a Sanders presidency/Birth of the United Socialist States of America playthrough with a 2016 start. Up until recently, the game has been pretty fair, and I've managed to either win or tie for "delegates" to be the challenger to President Trump, but out of nowhere, the party has a new nominee show up, with several orders of magnitude of funding than the rest of the nominees combined, but when I check his backing groups, it just lists himself, but despite requiring funding from at least two supporting groups, he's allowed to be in the debates and is currently bouncing between second and third place in "popular polls". What kind of blatant agressive-adaption AI is this? Usually Paradox is better at hiding when that goes on. Edit: Okay, maybe I just triggered a mission chain by accident that spawned him. He has so many negative maluses that even the other nominees wrecked him in the debate. Edit 2: What the hell? The resolution of the event line just tanked support for my party. How do you get the USSA to form outside of the "Millenium Socialism Uprising" event line?
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 15:49
|
|
|
Quote is not edit.
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 15:50
|
|
|
I've been going through the same event chain but the game keeps warning me about how Russia is influencing my country's elections. I dug into the script to see what was going on because I was curious and apparently it doesn't actually do anything??
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 16:08
|
|
|
welcome to doc4! this isnt a bug, its one of several heavy handed event lines paradox uses to guide the usa to the historical adoption of fascism. if you’re just starting out, its recommended to do a full fash campaign up to 2050 to get a feel for the mechanics that propel you effortlessly to forming the 4th reich. getting the ussa achievement is one of the tricker ones and doubly so without understanding the systems involved. but if you’re wedded to this playthrough the (spoilers) tl;dr strat for taking the usa red as one of the minors is to basically ignore the elections at the start. spending influence or cash on them is a trap, as the rest of the american nobility will always have more of both. if you somehow actually win the presidency either they kill you immediately or the military coups you. instead spend your influence on making 1 or 2 large foreign alliances at the start. this will take a while as a minor, but pays off in spades later on. use your votes to try to get the usa into one of the more bruising resource wars. this can seem counterintuitive since it costs you popularity, but remember those big army doomstacks become rebel doomstacks as soon as you seize power. as a bonus, this improves your rep with all nobles that have the imperial ethos. use your cash to recruit militia units whenever you have spare. see that ‘vanguard’ trait in the bottom right of their unit cards? that should be a tip off as to how you’ll put them to work. with hopefully at least one major ally, a depleted usa army, a growing red army and some favorable relations internally, now its time to get into the election game. use your growing influence to spam plots on the other candidates. you dont need to activate them as they pop, just keep them brewing. when the ai slaps its mojo on the chosen candidate, you already have a plot in place and whoever pops up next will have a malus due to timing. how you clinch the win comes down to rng in your various material conditions, but dont be afraid to temporarily buy off enough nobles to bring down the plot against you if needed. its way easier to gulag them later and also reduces the stacks of reactionary rebels that spawn early. good luck!
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 17:05
|
|
|
Randalor posted:Edit 2: What the hell? The resolution of the event line just tanked support for my party. How do you get the USSA to form outside of the "Millenium Socialism Uprising" event line? You kinda can't in the general flow of events as usual, but one thing sorta works (you don't become the USSA until later though): 1) Population under 45 will keep boosting Consciousness non-stop during the campaign trail and then Nevada happens, which has a hidden event "class consciousness in the USA" which boosts Socialist ideology for every major Sanders stump moment in the primaries; 2) Whenever a campaign event happens, pick the socialist option; 3) Keep doing this regardless of any Democratic Establishment events (liberal capitalist militancy will increase a lot, as well as liberal professionalists) - you will get a lot of hits in terms of stability but push on; 4) Eventually you get the Milwaukee Convention event, with the "Mass Socialist Movement" modifier and gives you two outcomes: a) you get "Delegates confirm Sanders" which opens up the reform events for the Democratic Party (should you wish to do so) and Sanders goes to election as a Democratic candidate; b) you get "DNC attempts another candidate", which puts the "Broken" status in the Democratic Party (it loses 85% in everything, effectively making it unelectable), then you get the option to try to continue keeping the democrats as they are (why though) or try to run the Sanders campaign as part of the new Democratic Socialist movement, but then the docs are all weird and there are a lot of missing variable names and functions so I don't know how well that works 
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 17:23
|
|
|
one funny known issue re: USSA playthrough btw- the Scandinavian Commonweal will honor any alliances (including covert) of any member nation that exists at the time of its formation. you can exploit this by allying Norway early for minimal effort and crossing your fingers to wait. if the EU destabilizes early and the USA destabilizes late, you can end up with the SC delivering leopard tanks in support of your american red army.
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 18:16
|
|
|
This game is so broken. I'm playing as the CDC for the global pandemic sidequest. I'm doing great, stopped the Ebola chain and found a cure. Despite this, my funding keeps getting reduced. Which, okay, I know it is a game and sometimes realism has to take a backseat to gameplay I guess. Then working on the Corona chain, I manage to quarantine flights into the US, and start working with the WHO. Then I get an event that says that there's a flight planned with infected. I mash the quarantine button and it just says 'Overruled' and does the flight anyway. I know this is designed to make things harder, but there's got to be a limit, right?
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 18:25
|
|
|
Ardlen posted:This game is so broken. I'm playing as the CDC for the global pandemic sidequest. I'm doing great, stopped the Ebola chain and found a cure. Despite this, my funding keeps getting reduced. Which, okay, I know it is a game and sometimes realism has to take a backseat to gameplay I guess. I think it has something to do with the 'capitalist healthcare' system the US uses? You have to let the industrial council vote on all actions, so a lot of time you're prevented from taking the objectively correct option simply because it goes against the interests of the council. If you mouse over their icons, you should see something like, "Health Industry opposes: Doesn't make number go up." You'll have to bribe them to get them to vote for you action. Which can make it really expensive in the long run. The other options all increase tyranny by a ton.
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 18:33
|
|
|
holy poo poo I just rolled a bernie with the Nothing Matters trait, 
|
|
#
?
Feb 22, 2020 23:35
|
|
|
buggy piece of poo poo. "uninhabitable climate" just triggered in miami, but population and economy are still going up
|
|
#
?
Feb 23, 2020 12:13
|
|
|
redleader posted:buggy piece of poo poo. "uninhabitable climate" just triggered in miami, but population and economy are still going up lol I just checked in my game and it's so hot in most of the Middle East that pre-Uplift humans couldn't possibly have survived the temperatures. The place is only hospitable because of "air conditioner" tech, and that tech fails immediately (requires electricity) during The Great Blackout. Don't worry, the pops in places like the Middle East and Miami go about 50/50 Climate Refugees vs. Climate Marauders, so the resulting doomstacks aren't as bad unless the Refugee side destroys your stability too bad to up conscription to deal with the Marauders. The really bad possible random event in the climate collapse chain is, in another Paradox writing utter silliness example, some little girl who stops going to school to protest climate change can take command of the Marauders and form Grune Armee Fraktion.
|
|
#
?
Feb 23, 2020 16:47
|
|
|
sullat posted:I think it has something to do with the 'capitalist healthcare' system the US uses? You have to let the industrial council vote on all actions, so a lot of time you're prevented from taking the objectively correct option simply because it goes against the interests of the council. If you mouse over their icons, you should see something like, "Health Industry opposes: Doesn't make number go up." You'll have to bribe them to get them to vote for you action. Which can make it really expensive in the long run. The other options all increase tyranny by a ton. i get that supposedly America really did have some kind of for-pay healthcare system, weird as that seems now, but it could probably be modelled better. in my recent run I had a significant number of electorate pops who really didn't want me to *give them healthcare*. that seems like its not working as intended.
|
|
#
?
Feb 23, 2020 19:55
|
|
|
Progress on the fusion tech keeps resetting, every time I load a new session. Is this a known bug? It only affects this one tech-- can I get around it by moving it into a different research slot?
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2020 08:14
|
|
|
Its basically a joke about pre fall research. You do get a couple of points from "dark age research" if you do an import for the 2250 Stellaris XV start.
|
|
#
?
Feb 24, 2020 22:01
|
|
|
Randalor posted:Okay, normally I don't like to complain about AI cheating, but this is a new level of bullshit. So I'm trying for a Sanders presidency/Birth of the United Socialist States of America playthrough with a 2016 start. Up until recently, the game has been pretty fair, and I've managed to either win or tie for "delegates" to be the challenger to President Trump, but out of nowhere, the party has a new nominee show up, with several orders of magnitude of funding than the rest of the nominees combined, but when I check his backing groups, it just lists himself, but despite requiring funding from at least two supporting groups, he's allowed to be in the debates and is currently bouncing between second and third place in "popular polls". What kind of blatant agressive-adaption AI is this? Usually Paradox is better at hiding when that goes on. to be fair you can't expect Paradox to actually support Sanders events, he's a joke character like the horse culture which only gets created when you do something like delete all the other democrat candidates and then run in the democrat primary. that's why he's got unrealistic stats like a flat 0 conservatism and no party alignment
|
|
#
?
Feb 25, 2020 02:17
|
|
|
I finally got a global pandemic event and apparently the US has a pandemic defense of 0? It has hospitals in every province, I don't understand.
|
|
#
?
Feb 28, 2020 21:47
|
|
|
hobbesmaster posted:I finally got a global pandemic event and apparently the US has a pandemic defense of 0? It has hospitals in every province, I don't understand. again, for the last time, america's unique modifier "Cargo Cult Writ Large" means it has all the same infrastructure as a civilized nation but it is all set to 0 effectiveness
|
|
#
?
Feb 28, 2020 21:59
|
|
|
to be fair, it's a big transition coming in from another series like Stellaris which has no historicity. the DoC series is weighted heavily towards progressing you through the real events of the 21st century collapse. no matter which start you choose, the american empire is dead, but you get to decide what to build from its corpse!
|
|
#
?
Feb 29, 2020 00:29
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 2, 2024 06:30 |
|
|
paradox's version of those events at least. in my current game i just had all my resource stockpiles and industrial capacity somehow reduced by 10% out of nowhere in the span of a handful of days. if that's not the ol' paradox railroading sledgehammer then i don't know what is
|
|
#
?
Feb 29, 2020 01:10
|
|
