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If any of you are in the 37th district, Katrina Foley is a great candidate. I worked in her office for a bit when she was the mayor of Costa Mesa. She'll make a great state senator.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I feel it's quite the opposite, they're all going to try to knife Sanders. But we'll see. Quoting my own pre-debate thoughts to say that I was half right here; I thought they were going to go hard after Sanders but they did not. Thank goodness. Bloomberg was exactly the dipshit I expected to see, though. I think if more people worked directly for billionaires there wouldn't be any. They are not worth the money they have, at all.
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Zuul the Cat posted:If any of you are in the 37th district, Katrina Foley is a great candidate. I worked in her office for a bit when she was the mayor of Costa Mesa. She'll make a great state senator. I don't know much about her, more about Min since he ran against Katie Porter in 2018. He strikes me as a centrist. Do you have any additional resources on this race (I've already read the Orange Juice Blog)?
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Feb 20, 2020 22:26
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The LA Times have posted the post about her.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Quoting my own pre-debate thoughts to say that I was half right here; I thought they were going to go hard after Sanders but they did not. Thank goodness. Bloomberg was exactly the dipshit I expected to see, though. I think if more people worked directly for billionaires there wouldn't be any. They are not worth the money they have, at all. Apparently he did zero prep for the debate because he thought everyone would treat him like his employees do, even after emailing several of them on the day of to tell them to drop out to make room for his candidacy. Billionaires have baby brains.
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Feb 20, 2020 23:24
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SlimGoodbody posted:Apparently he did zero prep for the debate because he thought everyone would treat him like his employees do, even after emailing several of them on the day of to tell them to drop out to make room for his candidacy. Billionaires have baby brains. Having billions of dollars gives you a baby brain in my experience. It's very sad. Being a billionaire is honestly hellish existence where every single person you meet is either under your thumb or angling for your money. But they're too hooked on it to let it go. We need to take their massive unearned wealth away for their own good.
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Feb 21, 2020 00:07
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Imagine if you had a crippling addiction, but every time you got your fix it gave you more power, more social status, and greater access to your substance of choice, in an endlessly iterative cycle, forever.
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Kenning posted:Imagine if you had a crippling addiction, but every time you got your fix it gave you more power, more social status, and greater access to your substance of choice, in an endlessly iterative cycle, forever. now imagine that you don't even have the basic level of creativity or curiosity to do something wild and fun with your enormous wealth like build a rocket ship, all your life has ever prepared you to do is pursue wealth and power for its own sake elon musk and richard branson are giant cocks so don't think I'm actually praising them, it's just astonishing to me that there are so many multi-billionaires and yet so few of them seem to be genuinely having fun with their money in ways that aren't equally accessible to the mere hundred-millionaire like those two guys
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That's the whole thing about it being an addiction. It's pretty rare that true morbid alcoholics are making nice cocktails and hosting parties as they feed the addiction, they're much more likely to drink piss beer or rotgut whiskey, alone. Money doesn't do anything for the ultrarich. It just gets them high.
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SlimGoodbody posted:Apparently he did zero prep for the debate because he thought everyone would treat him like his employees do, even after emailing several of them on the day of to tell them to drop out to make room for his candidacy. Billionaires have baby brains. What the gently caress
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Leperflesh posted:now imagine that you don't even have the basic level of creativity or curiosity to do something wild and fun with your enormous wealth like build a rocket ship, all your life has ever prepared you to do is pursue wealth and power for its own sake They do pedo poo poo on Epstein's weird cult island and, I dunno, probably bet on underground death matches or something. Other than that it really seems like the only thing they can think of doing with billions of dollars is hoarding it and warping the social structure of the planet like a black hole.
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They certainly buy huge houses and hire private chefs and drive the fanciest cars, I mean, they do still get to own and have all these incredibly nice things. But anyone with twenty or thirty million dollars can do that, and a guy like Bloomberg has a thousand times more money than that. Sure, those dudes can buy an even bigger megayacht, but... the experience of being on a huge yacht is pretty much the same whether it's a 100 foot yacht or a 200 foot yacht, it's note like they can make that fine corinthian leather couch in your huge stateroom 1000 times finer or make that lobster dinner 1000 times tastier. That's part of the absurdity of these ultra-rich. Their wealth is as much of a multiple of the already very rich, as those already very rich people are of the normal middle class family. When you control $30B if you can't figure out how to spend it doing something bigger or better than whatever your average run of the mill $30M-having person does, that's just a total abject failure of imagination. poo poo. I should get a job working for billionaires as a "big ideas to do with your money" guy. I bet I can come up with an extravagantly expensive and new or interesting idea for blowing a billion dollars at least once a week. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Feb 21, 2020 |
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Is offshore clone organ harvesting already something that the billionaires can do to set themselves apart from the mere tens of millionaires?
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CopperHound posted:Is offshore clone organ harvesting already something that the billionaires can do to set themselves apart from the mere tens of millionaires? Yes just ask China.
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If I had a billion dollars I would fund the development of nuclear powered passenger dirigibles. And a private, luxury nuclear reactor for myself, of course.
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Feb 21, 2020 21:56
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Did anyone get a chance to make it to Bernie's event today in Santa Ana? I think he's going to be in Bakersfield later today.
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Feb 21, 2020 22:03
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Cenk bad water wet happy Friday! https://twitter.com/IATSE/status/1230911325242564608 https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1230949208024219648
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I never really have figured out how to feel about TYT, some of their stuff seems reasonable but I get a real infowars vibe from them.
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Leperflesh posted:now imagine that you don't even have the basic level of creativity or curiosity to do something wild and fun with your enormous wealth like build a rocket ship, all your life has ever prepared you to do is pursue wealth and power for its own sake https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1230956379478937601
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MarcusSA posted:Yes just ask China.
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Me buying an HSR ticket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO3uVW7ejpc&t=101s
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Admiral Ray posted:If I had a billion dollars I would fund the development of nuclear powered passenger dirigibles. And a private, luxury nuclear reactor for myself, of course. See, this is what I'm talking about. Build air yachts! Genetically engineer a chocobo! Fund a film written entirely by an algorithm!
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Admiral Ray posted:And a private, luxury nuclear reactor for myself, of course. with gold-plated control rods 
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SlimGoodbody posted:Fund a film written entirely by an algorithm! that has been done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7x2Ihqjmc
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SlimGoodbody posted:See, this is what I'm talking about. Build air yachts! Genetically engineer a chocobo! Fund a film written entirely by an algorithm! I'd buy really expensive ketchups. All the fanciest Dijon ketchups!
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SlimGoodbody posted:Fund a film written entirely by an algorithm! But JJ Abrams already finished Star Wars 7 and 9...
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I know that a billion dollars seems to be the lightning rod number in politics right now, but it realistically doesn’t buy what you’d expect in either the public or private sector. If Disneyland builds a memorable ride worth going to, it’ll probably cost about a third of a billion. Which isn’t to say they shouldn’t be building billion-dollar rides at this point given how high their prices are while still packing in bodies like sardines, but a billion dollars won’t buy you a steampunk airship, just a very good IMAX simulation of one.
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What I kinda don't get is why spend all that money on ad buys when you can do something amazingly magnanimous that will be its own hype engine. "Bloomberg spend hundreds of millions of his own dollars on advertising" does way less for a political campaign than "Bloomberg fixes Flint," but what the hell do I know about this dumb political process.
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GrandpaPants posted:What I kinda don't get is why spend all that money on ad buys when you can do something amazingly magnanimous that will be its own hype engine. "Bloomberg spend hundreds of millions of his own dollars on advertising" does way less for a political campaign than "Bloomberg fixes Flint," but what the hell do I know about this dumb political process. Billionaires are psychopaths, hth
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Billionaires are psychopaths, hth Psychopaths know how to manipulate people's emotions with gestures! They should be good at doing things that will get people to like them!
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GrandpaPants posted:Psychopaths know how to manipulate people's emotions with gestures! They should be good at doing things that will get people to like them!
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Billionaires have lived for years, maybe decades, in a bubble where everybody *does* like them. Yeah it's this, Bloomberg probably hadn't directly had to interact with somebody who didn't like him or at least wasn't pretending to like him for a long, long time. If anybody did manage to get a critical word in, they were quickly shouted down by an army of yes men that surround him.
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Craptacular! posted:I know that a billion dollars seems to be the lightning rod number in politics right now, but it realistically doesn’t buy what you’d expect in either the public or private sector. Musk, Branson, Ellison, Bezos, etc. have shown that if you have multiples of billion dollars you don't have to just straight up buy an expensive thing, you can create a company to invent and market it. So if you want a steampunk airship and nobody can build one for you for like $100M (which I think they totally could btw), then you found Steampunk Airship Co., invest a couple hundred mil, get a bunch of suckers to invest the rest, and then in ten years not only do you have your steampunk airship, you've got a fleet of them and a company ostensibly selling steampunk airship rides while also losing half a billion dollars a year but not going out of business yet because venture capitalists are idiots. Or maybe you accidentally create a wildly successful private rocket ship company, that sometimes happens too. GrandpaPants posted:What I kinda don't get is why spend all that money on ad buys when you can do something amazingly magnanimous that will be its own hype engine. "Bloomberg spend hundreds of millions of his own dollars on advertising" does way less for a political campaign than "Bloomberg fixes Flint," but what the hell do I know about this dumb political process. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is emblematic of how this both does and doesn't work. On the one hand, they've funneled an enormous amount of money to "charity" - on the other, their charity only does what they specifically want it to and some of their rules are weird or even harmful, and... broadly nobody really notices or gives a poo poo, they're not especially beloved because of it. And of course they'd never dream of giving away enough money that it'd actually negatively impact their billionaire lifestyles.
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Leperflesh posted:Musk, Branson, Ellison, Bezos, etc. have shown that if you have multiples of billion dollars you don't have to just straight up buy an expensive thing, you can create a company to invent and market it. I think it’s mostly Musk and Google that ride that sort of VC gravytrain. Ellison is a fancy IP hoarder/litigator. Branson emulates Howard Hughes, spending money a business that’s unremarkable but makes a lot of money (cable/satellite, airlines) and putting it towards projects that sound cool or interesting. For Hughes it was movies and casinos, for Branson it’s rocket ships and hotels and colas and whatnot. Bezos has always operated on one principle: show allegiance to his company and he’ll give you something. That so many products and services are tied into Prime is no accident; Prime is a waste of money if you don’t begin doing massive amounts of shopping on Amazon. And while Amazon Music has nowhere near as many listeners as Spotify, it’s still easier for Amazon to get the RIAA licenses to launch a Spotify competitor than it is for Spotify to launch an online shopping service. I keep waiting to find out what tech giant will get all the way in bed with Walmart; they clearly feel threatened by Amazon on the shopping front, but their Arkansas blue collar megachurch culture isn’t likely to produce a must-own piece of technology.
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For Ellison I was thinking in particular of his americas cup yacht racing hobby: instead of just paying for it all himself he got BMW roped in and I think some other sponsors. Branson has virgin galactic which has a cool space plane (and has killed one pilot) but hasn't actually done anything profitable as far as I know. And for Bezos its a similar story with blue origin, they're still a space ship company but still not in the same ballpark as spacex in terms of commercial success. Those are what those guys do for funzies/to get to do something cool, with varying degrees of making or not making money. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Feb 23, 2020 |
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The real reason Bloomberg is dangerous is because basically no one has any idea what works and doesn't work in presidential campaigns, or campaigns in general honestly. The evidence that basically anything actually works is extremely mixed and the effects are likely marginal at best, if they even exist. Most people who work in politics know this but they don't like to admit it, for obvious reasons. But he can afford to just say `gently caress it` and throw money at the wall with a huge diversity of tactics and see what works. He's working off an effectively unlimited budget and doesn't have to give a gently caress about small or even big failures in the way that a conventional campaign would. Does in 2020 having free food events with booze near the polls (not technically illegal as long as you don't tell people who come to vote for any candidate in particular) work? Probably not, but who the gently caress knows! A conventional campaign can't experiment with stuff like that and take gambles like that. He can. To be clear I think that he does indeed burn out and become an also ran. But he does pose a kind of unique threat.
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Well really it’s because he tried to pay for memes.
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Memes are eminently convertible into cash tho. Let them who would not meme for $$$ throw the first stone.
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All I'm saying is that A Reputable Marketing Group said a top-tier TikTok e-celeb can potentially leverage their brand momentum into at least $1M per post, if the synergy is correctly managed (TM). Bloomberg can corner that before we even know how to counter it.
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