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Zushio posted:Everyone rags on the lizard episode of Voyager, but the one in TNG where Geordi turns into an invisible alien is much worse. My favorite bad Geordi episode is where they find a guy whose like a cross between Will Ferrell and Jesus in a ridiculously tight spandex suit and he uses his magic powers to give Geordi his mojo back and then wanders around the Enterprise with a bulging camel tail until something I don't even remember what happened. I think he breaks Worfs back and then heals it as well
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John Wick of Dogs posted:My favorite bad Geordi episode is where they find a guy whose like a cross between Will Ferrell and Jesus in a ridiculously tight spandex suit and he uses his magic powers to give Geordi his mojo back and then wanders around the Enterprise with a bulging camel tail until something I don't even remember what happened. I think he breaks Worfs back and then heals it as well I also got high as gently caress and watched star trek and richard simmons back to back
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The Bloop posted:The forensic holography sequence is baller and worth whatever else is going on It's almost always great whenever they use the holodeck for something that's not entertainment.
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The Bloop posted:I also got high as gently caress and watched star trek and richard simmons back to back NO ITS REEEEEAL he's wearing like a green man suit but it's white Edit: found it, Transfigurations  Smack dab between Menage a Troi and Best of Both Worlda John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Feb 25, 2020 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:NO ITS REEEEEAL It's kind of weird to look at that episode in HD because the glowy effect doesn't really obscure that he's just wearing the same suit with a mask now when he fully transforms.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:It's kind of weird to look at that episode in HD because the glowy effect doesn't really obscure that he's just wearing the same suit with a mask now when he fully transforms. It's like a stage effect, I like it.
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Zushio posted:Everyone rags on the lizard episode of Voyager, but the one in TNG where Geordi turns into an invisible alien is much worse. What the gently caress
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marktheando posted:What the gently caress The episode of Enterprise that does the same "two crewmembers are turning into aliens because space magic" thing but somehow worse was directed by Levar Burton.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:It's kind of weird to look at that episode in HD because the glowy effect doesn't really obscure that he's just wearing the same suit with a mask now when he fully transforms. The other thing you can really notice is his bulge. In every scene. Because that outfit leaves nothing to the imagination.
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Zurui posted:The episode of Enterprise that does the same "two crewmembers are turning into aliens because space magic" thing but somehow worse was directed by Levar Burton. That episode was ok, archer as a cave man was pretty funny.
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The Bloop posted:The forensic holography sequence is baller and worth whatever else is going on I remember being super creeped out when I was a kid and he goes "ok computer, extrapolate the entity that could cast that shadow" and it just spits out this amorphous, faceless gray blob instead of the actual alien. Sometimes less really is more. Compare to that Voyager ep with the space dinosaurs where Janeway goes "apply 65 million years of evolution to this hadrosaur" and it generates the exact image of the aliens of the week 
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Yeah, that creepy shadow is right up there with the body bags sitting up in "Night Terrors" for sending chills down my spine.
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The Bloop posted:The forensic holography sequence is baller and worth whatever else is going on Computer, make this a metal table  uh
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100% agree That is a super memorable episode for precisely that reason. It was really a great Sci Fi moment in Trek
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zoux posted:Computer, make this a metal table No, there weren't shackles No I know there's shackles in the projection, there weren't on the alien table though You know what computer end program
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Pick posted:I like Threshold I don't like that they abandoned their lizard babies.
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Why are we going to evolve back into catfish men is my question
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The Bloop posted:
I honestly love trek best when it does weird, creepy stuff. The clicky aliens, that shadow scene, the weird face on the screen that traps the crew, someone phasing through the floor. all moments that stuck with me as a teen. It's one of the few settings where you know you're not (or rarely) going to have to sit through the tedious "nobody believes me" part of the story because they live in a world where this stuff happens and they'll at least entertain the idea that you saw giant worms in the transporter or you won that tournament and now your trophy changed. One of the few OS episodes that stuck with me as a kid was the empty ship then the ghostly faces at the window
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What episode is this? Mark of Gideon? I Empty ship sounds like an episode that would be right up my alley.
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piratepilates posted:What episode is this? Mark of Gideon? I I had to google it to check, but that's the one. I think it ends up being the usual goofy story, but it's always eerie and I'm a sucker for "investigate the empty ship" settings.
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piratepilates posted:What episode is this? Mark of Gideon? I Yea. It makes no sense at all unfortunately, you can tell they came up with the Aesop first, then that specific visual, then wrote the rest of it on the fly
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Dog_Meat posted:I had to google it to check, but that's the one. I think it ends up being the usual goofy story, but it's always eerie and I'm a sucker for "investigate the empty ship" settings. skasion posted:Yea. It makes no sense at all unfortunately, you can tell they came up with the Aesop first, then that specific visual, then wrote the rest of it on the fly Isn't that usually the case? The mystery is great but the answer can never usually match up. For me it's with the TNG episode with the weird time stuff and ends with the romulan ship frozen in time firing on the enterprise. The first half of that episode where they have no loving clue what weird time poo poo is happening is great, and it's still pretty good once you get onboard the enterprise and romulan ship. Once it has to be resolved, it stops being interesting and doesn't match up to how great all the unsettling imagery is.
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The best part about "Timescape" was the twist about the intent of the Romulans. The main characters think it was an attack with a boarding party when it turns out that the Enterprise was rendering assistance and any aggression that appeared to be happening was due to the black hole aliens.
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bull3964 posted:The best part about "Timescape" was the twist about the intent of the Romulans. The main characters think it was an attack with a boarding party when it turns out that the Enterprise was rendering assistance and any aggression that appeared to be happening was due to the black hole aliens.  It's this because, while horrifying to think about our beloved Beverly getting disruptored, everyone's expression and reactions look like he's just hosing off a muddy dog in his back yard (except Troi)
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piratepilates posted:What episode is this? Mark of Gideon? I The faces at the window are a wonderful eerie moment but everything else about that episode is terrible. The plot makes no sense at all -- I'd actually put it right down there with Spock's Brain and The Alternative Factor. And the pacing drags very badly, to the point that there are actual scenes of people reading long strings of numbers to each other. (Really.) And you're supposed to pay attention to the all those long numbers because believe it or not they're actually a plot point. The writer apparently wanted to do an overpopulation show but I have no idea what the actual message about it is supposed to be.
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Powered Descent posted:The faces at the window are a wonderful eerie moment but everything else about that episode is terrible. The plot makes no sense at all -- I'd actually put it right down there with Spock's Brain and The Alternative Factor. And the pacing drags very badly, to the point that there are actual scenes of people reading long strings of numbers to each other. (Really.) And you're supposed to pay attention to the all those long numbers because believe it or not they're actually a plot point. The writer apparently wanted to do an overpopulation show but I have no idea what the actual message about it is supposed to be. Isn't that the one where the aliens of the week thought Kirk would fall in love with the woman who was on the empty Enterprise and abandon everything to be with her? Sounds like a plan someone didn't think through...
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Powered Descent posted:The writer apparently wanted to do an overpopulation show but I have no idea what the actual message about it is supposed to be. “Wrap your tool before we all loving die”. Malthusian catastrophe futures were still a big thing in the 60s, plenty of sci-fi from the time deals with it (Stand on Zanzibar comes to mind) and Paul Ehrlich was preaching that it was just around the corner IRL
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skasion posted:“Wrap your tool before we all loving die”. Malthusian catastrophe futures were still a big thing in the 60s, plenty of sci-fi from the time deals with it (Stand on Zanzibar comes to mind) and Paul Ehrlich was preaching that it was just around the corner IRL I would say that they are still a big thing
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Powered Descent posted:The faces at the window are a wonderful eerie moment but everything else about that episode is terrible. The plot makes no sense at all -- I'd actually put it right down there with Spock's Brain and The Alternative Factor. And the pacing drags very badly, to the point that there are actual scenes of people reading long strings of numbers to each other. (Really.) And you're supposed to pay attention to the all those long numbers because believe it or not they're actually a plot point. The writer apparently wanted to do an overpopulation show but I have no idea what the actual message about it is supposed to be. Yeah it's a super weird episode that has barely anything to do with the "empty copy of Enterprise" plot in the long run. I made a confusedpost about it somewhere in this thread. It was written by one of the guest stars from "The Trouble With Tribbles", who later killed himself. It also originally had some really uncomfortable scene written in there about overfeeding Nurse Chapel.
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Powered Descent posted:The faces at the window are a wonderful eerie moment but everything else about that episode is terrible. The plot makes no sense at all -- I'd actually put it right down there with Spock's Brain and The Alternative Factor. And the pacing drags very badly, to the point that there are actual scenes of people reading long strings of numbers to each other. (Really.) And you're supposed to pay attention to the all those long numbers because believe it or not they're actually a plot point. The writer apparently wanted to do an overpopulation show but I have no idea what the actual message about it is supposed to be. boy this story really just kinda wrapped up sloppily. more than half is about the empty enterprise and the girl and the mystery, then that short awkward period where kirk learns what's behind the mystery, and then spock has to play catch up and read the script so he knows where to find kirk and where to go.
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zoux posted:I would say that they are still a big thing I think these days it only really appears as half-baked excuses for villains to be villains. Although that may also have to do with how rare directly moralizing in stories seems these days compared to in the 60s (which may largely be echoes of a cold war CIA program to suppress philosophical dissent  , think about that next time you're bored at stories full of spectacle with no substance).The Malthusian apocalypse has been just around the corner for 222 years, but it still hasn't quite hit. Usually because the problems that come up can usually be solved without a severe reduction in the amount of humans, and in fact, large amounts of humans tend to have greater utility in solving bigger problems, although it's always possible that we won't implement a solution and humanity is fundamentally limited. Only time will tell, sure as the sun will cross the sky.
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piratepilates posted:
Completely agree that this is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. When you actually look at the effects of the disruptor it's pretty horrific, but all I could think was that nobody seems to be bothered and how the hell do you aim those guns when the beam comes out like that?!?!
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John Wick of Dogs posted:My favorite bad Geordi episode I've just got to Galaxy's Children, and...yikes. It's got some fun ambitions, but completely misses the mark and lands right on "woman apologises for being creeped out by creepy man"
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