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RBX posted:After stage 30 you get Hercule statues. Don't waste your stamina on doing EZAs again right now. When you need to do them again by then you should know what your doing. Right now just focus on awakening stuff and grinding through story mode for stones and learning teams. Goddamnit I can't believe there was a bug where after 30 he didn't do super attacks, and it was just patched.
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gently caress. I'm on 30 of the Vegito Blue EZA, but I can't loving beat it. Extreme STR, even the Time Traveler ones eat a minimum of 50k off of a normal attack, and forget about the non Travelers. I'm lucky if they only take 70k per normal hit, which he gets to chain 4 of no matter where I organize people. I tried changing to a Time Travelers team, but, I don't have a bunch of Extreme ones or a solid lead to bring them all together, so I tried Fat Buu, LR Vegito Blue, Rose Black, Zamasu, Roid Trunks and SSJ Future Trunks with the Goku Black Time Travelers lead as a friend, but, other than LR Vegito being tanky as hell, I couldn't get through that way either.
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the_steve posted:I tried changing to a Time Travelers team, but, I don't have a bunch of Extreme ones or a solid lead to bring them all together, so I tried Fat Buu, LR Vegito Blue, Rose Black, Zamasu, Roid Trunks and SSJ Future Trunks with the Goku Black Time Travelers lead as a friend, but, other than LR Vegito being tanky as hell, I couldn't get through that way either. You've got the basis of a functional team there, I also used Fat Buu, LR Vegito Blue, Rose Black and Zamasu. Leader is the trickiest part. I'm assuming you don't have LR Trunks/Mai? Try picking them as a friendleader instead of Goku black. They won't do a ton of damage, but they're the type you want (instead of the weakest type), and vegito blue is a future saga enemy so Trunks/Mai will get a shitload of dodges from their passive. edit: If you have STR Perfect Cell and EZA'd him at least far enough to change his leader skill, he gives 3 ki and 120% stats to ALL STR, so that could be a stopgap leader for you? He's also a time traveler too. CidGregor fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Feb 26, 2020 |
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Feb 26, 2020 20:16
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if you have the transforming teq trunks i imagine he'd do pretty well
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CidGregor posted:This is like the 5th or 6th time they've run Hercule's heart pounding gifts and I have never once gotten ultra super lucky, and here you get it as a newbie, loving hell. I just got another one. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:I just got another one. Luckily for you I've gotten it twice in the last week, so I guess complaining has paid off. 
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the_steve posted:gently caress. I went with int Goku Black, str Rose Black, str Zamasu, teq Fusion Zamasu, str EZA Perfect Cell, and the LR Vegito Blue. Usually with the Trunks/Mai friend. It wasn't the most ideal but it still worked surprisingly well enough to clear 30 on the first try.
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I don't have the STR Perfect Cell, which is disappointing because the Friend ones I brought along definitely carried their weight and then some. And yeah, no LR Trunks/Mai for me. As far as STR Time Travelers go, it's: SS2 Bardock, LR Vegito Blue, SS2 Trunks (A Meaningful Strike), A non-Dokkan'd SS Future Trunks (Hour of Ordeal), Roid Trunks, a non-Dokkan'd Goku Blue (Indomitable Battle Lust), Zamasu, Rose Black, That event Bojack who I never dokkan'd up, Fat Buu, and an unleveled/undokkan'd Beat. So yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm already fielding the best I've got on that front unless I dokkan someone. Update: Dokkan'd the SS2 Trunks, ran with the LR Trunks/Mai friends, died a couple more times from unfortunate Vegito placements, but finally managed to squeak out the last win. 100% EZA With that being done, how does he stack up against his TEQ counterpart (2 HP routes unlocked) as far as usefulness as part of a team? Is TEQ still the superior choice? Or is PHY the better of the two now? the_steve fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Feb 27, 2020 08:29
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the_steve posted:I don't have the STR Perfect Cell, which is disappointing because the Friend ones I brought along definitely carried their weight and then some. With equal HP unlocks the PHY one is vastly superior in basically every situation.
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Wuxi posted:With equal HP unlocks the PHY one is vastly superior in basically every situation. Oh poo poo, I didn't realize he got that much of a boost. Nice. Guess I need to tweak my RoG and Potara teams.
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teq vb is going to be better if the fight lasts longer than 5 turns
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Aurora posted:teq vb is going to be better if the fight lasts longer than 5 turns
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Wuxi posted:TEQ VB beats PHY in defense after 10 turns and in damage after 12 turns, which never happens besides the LGE, where the last boss is INT. TEQ VB's attack stacks a lot faster than THAT, doesn't it? I mean, with both his passive stacking on every one of his bonus attacks that'll cap out 150% attack in five turns minimum, as well as his SA's infinite stacking? TEQ probably puts out better damage after 4-5 turns. His defense grows a whole lot slower though, yeah, and has no damage reduction, so PHY VB is gonna be almost universally better on defense. (off topic but goddamn your avatar makes me uncomfortable, keep thinking that cat's head is about to get crushed and I get all sad.) e: I guess if you go by TOTAL turns and not just his own turns, I guess it's closer to 10, but still. CidGregor fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Feb 27, 2020 18:24
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TEQ VB needs 7 turns on average to max out his passive and, most importantly, doesnt beat PHY VB with just his full passive, he still needs a number of SA stacks too. Counter attacks are crazy.
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Wuxi posted:TEQ VB needs 7 turns on average to max out his passive and, most importantly, doesnt beat PHY VB with just his full passive, he still needs a number of SA stacks too. Oh, right, I forgot to factor in the counterattacks. Yeah, with that, PHY VB's total damage output probably outpaces TEQ for a lot longer.
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Plus PHY VB just destroys TEQ VB in his stats at the Rainbow level. TEQ VB: HP: 17,095 ATK: 17,108 DEF: 9,743 PHY VB: HP: 18 061 ATK: 19,137 DEF: 10,194 That's over 2,000 more attack PLUS all the counters
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His counters are unbelievable now. I have a rainbow PHY Vegito and seeing nearly 1mil in counter damage is completely bonkers. On his own he's carving through the Beerus EZA.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDJ8wvYi3sI I didn't know INT Vegeta and Gohan supports got a Dokkan and brought mono teams back.
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Finally beat that stupid rear end in a top hat Goku in his stupid legendary event Android/Cell saga team with LR Int Cell, Str Cell EZA, Future Lead PHY Gohan, the recent F2P future 17 and 18 and LR 16,17,18 and LR Int Cell friendo. Rotations, LR Cell/Str Cell F2P Androids Floating LR Cell, Androids and Gohan The F2P androids were essential in keeping damage to a minimum, TEQ 17 still held his own in the final stage which was quite surprising, but getting those two into the same rotation early was the big helper. Very happy with those cards. LR Cell gave me a full heal at the AGL phase and became super perfect, the rotation with str and two LR cells was always super heavy hitting with those links behaving perfectly. STR EZA Cell is phenomenal, his defense is unreal and with 6 ki the man just hammers constantly. Tremendous backbone to the team. Gohan with 2 dupes could defend quite well once he got his super off, his def is not to be understated, with items the STR phase was pretty ok. STR and INT phase is pure dildos with his dodging and generally being a high health pool rear end in a top hat. With about 3000hp remaining I got a transform with LR Androids, dokkan attack all and finished the event with 16 exploding Goku for 3 million damage which felt so loving righteous. RIP 16, you finally got your with  With the tickets I got Supreme Warrior Awakened AGL Goku. The first Goku SSR. Which I finally have all paths unlocked. Now I can look forward to his EZA and running a 12ki 115% super, mad lad.
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Looks like we're finally getting another World Tournament. The last one was all the way back in early December, it'll be nice to have it around again. For our resident newbie, hope you have that INT Raditz fully built up. I think you mentioned pulling the PHY LR Cell too? Basically you want a team with your best attack-all characters ready. Also I know you haven't been summoning much but by any chance in the few pulls you made, did you get any copies of TEQ Jaco or INT Chiaotzu? They're also MVPs for world tournaments because they each do a guaranteed team-wide stun the first time they come up in rotation, but as SR characters that don't awaken it's easy for new players to overlook/trash them.
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No idea, maybe? If I did I might’ve used them as xp fodder without noticing though... Raditz is evolved and max skill level at least. I haven’t worked on cell much since I don’t think I have a team he’d work on. Do leaders just not exist in tournaments or is he worth it regardless? E: just checked, the SRs haven’t been used as fodder some were traded for points. I have teq Jaco, no chaotzu. I also have a STR bardock who gives 30% atk to all allies when over 30% hp. That sounds extremely handy. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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in WT you take your leader, and pick a friend who's leaderskill doesn't activate, so mostly you end up taking another all attacker (LR Broly) your leaderskill supports. phy LR cell is really good for WT because he gives himself a bunch of ki based on the number of enemies, and you're mostly fighting teams of 7, so even though he's only starting at +3 or +4 ki it's pretty easy to get his 11-17 off. You don't really need an attack support for WT, since unless you're going for like, 30x enemies and type disadvantage, other people's team members don't have that much HP.
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In World Tournaments, you're always fighting against teams of seven enemies, so attack-all supers are highly prized. INT Raditz can one-shot entire enemy teams up to about the 20x difficulty level and can wipe all non-PHY characters at 25x, and the Brolys can crush whole teams at max difficulty. And at the highest difficulty levels you die after taking only one or two super attacks, so you want to either dispose of the enemies quickly or have powerful group stunners (like Jaco) to keep them from attacking. Preferably both. In general, for leader skills and support characters, people usually prefer ki-boosting abilities over attack-boosting abilities. An attack-boosted normal attack won't hit as hard as an unboosted super, so extra ki will usually benefit the team more by making it easier to consistently dish out supers without being quite so dependent on orbs.
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WT is the worst thing the game makes you do and sucks your soul out of your body until you come out on the other side
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threw 50 stones at the banner, super vegito brought me a cooler i mean it was an AGL metal cooler but it was still a cooler! e: i'm nowhere close to ready to do this ezarea, i need to clear so many stages of the story events and the pilaf trove 20 pull ticket got me the str cooler, so that's cool LibrarianCroaker fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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RBX posted:WT is the worst thing the game makes you do and sucks your soul out of your body until you come out on the other side Until you get the perfect setup and just sleep walk to 30mil points
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Wow, my first multi was a ZENO animation, into the new Cooler of course! Did NOT expect that
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First multi was goku black rift with four flyers. Str Cooler, new Thouser, and some vegeta. First time I saw a rift and it came at a good time
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Wuxi posted:Until you get the perfect setup and just sleep walk to 30mil points doesn't make prelims not suck rear end
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WTs kinda bum me out since I know I'm never going to place well on the rankings. I mean, gently caress, even if there weren't a shitload of bots and cheaters, how the hell are you supposed to compete in that without spending dozens/hundreds of stones on stamina refreshes? Also yeah, gently caress the prelims. Especially when there's only like 2 rounds left and the AI wants to play keepaway from you.
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Main Paineframe posted:In World Tournaments, you're always fighting against teams of seven enemies, so attack-all supers are highly prized. INT Raditz can one-shot entire enemy teams up to about the 20x difficulty level and can wipe all non-PHY characters at 25x, and the Brolys can crush whole teams at max difficulty. And at the highest difficulty levels you die after taking only one or two super attacks, so you want to either dispose of the enemies quickly or have powerful group stunners (like Jaco) to keep them from attacking. Preferably both. So at a bare minimum I should run Jaco, Cell, and Raditz, with probably LR Goku as a leader for Raditz and also a "delete that guy" single target nuke? I'll have to see if I have any leads who can boost ki for everyone. I think Future Gohan from the recently ended event does but if he needs medals to upgrade I'm SOL there. Aurora posted:doesn't make prelims not suck rear end ...wait. Is World Tournament just Dokkan Battle's take on Unite and Fight in Granblue? 
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Evil Fluffy posted:...wait. Is World Tournament just Dokkan Battle's take on Unite and Fight in Granblue? Yes and no. Yes, it is you against others in a ranked battle however you have nobody to answer to like Granblue's crew vs crew element. If you get all of the milestone prizes and not worry about the rank-related prizes, nobody is rankshaming you but yourself.
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So when does the new God Goku get added to the legendary goku summon tickets pool, if at all? I've kinda been hoarding them in the hope that'll happen, comsidering LR SS3 Goku's in the pool. I mean I lucked out summoning him anyway but no reason not to wait til more LRs are in the mix at least, right?
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CidGregor posted:So when does the new God Goku get added to the legendary goku summon tickets pool, if at all? I've kinda been hoarding them in the hope that'll happen, comsidering LR SS3 Goku's in the pool. I mean I lucked out summoning him anyway but no reason not to wait til more LRs are in the mix at least, right? He still isn't added in JP
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So are there ever any sort of FP summon events or should I just burn the 90k I've built up so far? I assume there are periodic events like most games with fp mechanics.
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Evil Fluffy posted:So are there ever any sort of FP summon events or should I just burn the 90k I've built up so far? I assume there are periodic events like most games with fp mechanics. There are three f2p LRs that come from FPs. Hercule, 17 and 18, and Saiyaman 1 and 2. Summon until you have 24 copies of each.
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Evil Fluffy posted:So are there ever any sort of FP summon events or should I just burn the 90k I've built up so far? I assume there are periodic events like most games with fp mechanics. They tried this once with Sleepy Kais, I think, but the percentages were bollocks. Give us zeni events on FP summons and I'll be all over it.
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3rd anniversary had like, bonus kais, training items, and medals or something when you did summons, but yeah the rates for the kais were terrible. and I don't think they've done it since. gimme a guaranteed ssr hercule statue
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So I realized that u actually have enough Red Coins to buy something. Is that Super Saiyan lead Goku worth having? Either as a Leader or as an addition to a different team?
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