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Zero VGS posted:Oh we're doing landlord lawyers? Here's a fun one: having never dealt with section 8 in my entire life, to me that sounds like there is a statutory max on how much a section 8 apartment can cost in rent (i.e. the tenant is not allowed to make up the difference, the total rent may be no more than X) and the lawyer is very carefully working around the spirit of the law while adhering to the letter
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evilweasel posted:having never dealt with section 8 in my entire life, to me that sounds like there is a statutory max on how much a section 8 apartment can cost in rent (i.e. the tenant is not allowed to make up the difference, the total rent may be no more than X) and the lawyer is very carefully working around the spirit of the law while adhering to the letter Yeah that's exactly what it is, just curious if there's some kinda gotcha where the tenant-lawyer-fiance team can gently caress the landlord over after the fact. Landlord's own lawyer thinks as long as the cash difference is paid up front for renting the basement and that's spelled out, then the money can't be clawed back later and everyone should be incentivized to play fair.
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Zero VGS posted:Yeah that's exactly what it is, just curious if there's some kinda gotcha where the tenant-lawyer-fiance team can gently caress the landlord over after the fact. Landlord's own lawyer thinks as long as the cash difference is paid up front for renting the basement and that's spelled out, then the money can't be clawed back later and everyone should be incentivized to play fair. When your potential tenant leads off with a lawyer...........
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Motronic posted:When your potential tenant leads off with a lawyer........... In this scenario the landlord dealt with the potential tenant (who presented as single) for weeks when the Section 8 voucher looked good, and the magical sugar-daddy, much older lawyer-fiance only came into the picture when a shortfall in money was revealed. Lawyer-fiance "doesn't plan to get married or move in for at least a year" (sounds like some kinda affair side-thing but none of anyone's business as long as the money's green I suppose). It's still a big yikes though; if the landlord ever pisses off the tenant, the lawyer-fiance could revenge-litigate with a nuisance case. First hit I googled has some other forum mod saying they had a bad experience renting to a lawyer too: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/52/topics/556964-do-you-rent-to-lawyers Maybe the landlord should get some extra umbrella insurance and/or incorporate or something? Not sure how much that would help.
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Yeah how terrible that a tenant might already have the means to fight back against a landlord, the landlord only controls whether they have a place to live
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What’s a lawyer with 6k I’m laying around cash doing porking a Section 8 recipient? Also wouldn’t living with a gain fully employed lawyer make one ineligible for Section 8 housing?
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FrozenVent posted:What’s a lawyer with 6k I’m laying around cash doing porking a Section 8 recipient? He wouldn’t in theory be living there, he’d be renting the basement storage as a separate transaction. I would still not do this thing if I were the landlord. Section 8 is woefully inadequate, but that’s a separate issue.
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FrozenVent posted:What’s a lawyer with 6k I’m laying around cash doing porking a Section 8 recipient? How dare poors have relationships outside their caste. The nerve of some people!
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BonerGhost posted:Yeah how terrible that a tenant might already have the means to fight back against a landlord, the landlord only controls whether they have a place to live I shouldn't bite, but a tenant with their own 24/7, presumably free lawyer feels a bit unfair against a responsible non-1%er landlord. Plus, the lease is what controls the tenant's quiet enjoyment of their place to live, not so much the landlord's whimsy. Tabbing back real quick, 70% of your post history ITT is using "scum" and "landlord" in the same sentences. Lawyers aren't exactly beloved either so I'm not sure what kinda points you're hoping to win with sweeping generalizations against an equally maligned profession. (Spoiler: the lawyer volunteered that he is a landlord too. A lawyerlord, truly the most dire of evil beings. Now who do you side with?) BonerGhost posted:How dare poors have relationships outside their caste. The nerve of some people! I'll kinda give you that one, that sentiment that someone with $6000 can't pork someone at poverty level, on it's own, is icky. On the other hand, I did originally state that that lawyer is much older than the tenant; coupled with the whole financial + legal power disparity + "I'm not moving in with her" does bring my naive gay mind some great unease. But I guess that's just how some straights do things, and again none of my business, and maybe it's on the level. Elon Musk is kinda bringing it back, right?
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Zero VGS posted:In this scenario the landlord dealt with the potential tenant (who presented as single) for weeks when the Section 8 voucher looked good, and the magical sugar-daddy, much older lawyer-fiance only came into the picture when a shortfall in money was revealed. Lawyer-fiance "doesn't plan to get married or move in for at least a year" (sounds like some kinda affair side-thing but none of anyone's business as long as the money's green I suppose). quote:I personally choose not to rent to lawyers, legal aid, police officers or social workers. The vast majority of lawyers don't want to spend their free time lawyering. Most lawyers are less litigious than the average person.
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nm posted:Most lawyers are less litigious than the average person. Is that because they can use their knowledge of the law to work things out before it ends up in a courtroom?
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SkunkDuster posted:Is that because they can use their knowledge of the law to work things out before it ends up in a courtroom? That, and because they're aware of the negative time/cost equation of litigation. I had an auto-shop gently caress up installing new tie rods on my car some years ago, and one fuckin fell out while I was on the highway. I went to a third party, had them document the damages, and give a short report on the reason the original tie rod was installed improperly ( I paid for this) I called the original repair shop, showed them the report, and asked simply that they refund the cost of the original work. Didn't ask them to pay the couple extra hundred dollars for the towing, or other company's report. We worked it out, partly because I started off by being reasonable with everyone, not asking for the moon, conceding a small portion of what I would otherwise be legally entitled to, etc. Sure, I could have done the case for "free" but that few hundred dollars was not worth my time, or my relationship with these businesses.
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Zero VGS posted:I shouldn't bite, but a tenant with their own 24/7, presumably free lawyer feels a bit unfair against a responsible non-1%er landlord. Plus, the lease is what controls the tenant's quiet enjoyment of their place to live, not so much the landlord's whimsy. The lease sure is what controls a tenant's quiet enjoyment. Now if the landlord violates it, what are tenants typically instructed to do? Are people who have relationships with lawyers just automatically vexatious litigants or something? You must have clicked the wrong post history or be confused, because calling someone who isn't a landlord a scumbag != "all landlords are scum"  Between which people in this scenario are these supposed disparities?
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Guy with a Neil Breen avatar posted:Isn't that immoral?
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This is a weird question but I got like 6 calls from an inmate in a jail. I don't know the person but I caught his name on the "will you accept a call from x" and found his info. I'm worried he's trying to get help but is reaching out to the wrong person. Is there a particular thing I should do?
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seiferguy posted:This is a weird question but I got like 6 calls from an inmate in a jail. I don't know the person but I caught his name on the "will you accept a call from x" and found his info. I'm worried he's trying to get help but is reaching out to the wrong person. Is there a particular thing I should do? Accept the call, let him know it's the wrong number? It costs a painfully large amount of money to make calls from prison so you'd be doing him a solid letting him know quickly.
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Volmarias posted:Accept the call, let him know it's the wrong number? It costs a painfully large amount of money to make calls from prison so you'd be doing him a solid letting him know quickly. The one hes calling from is collect, so I'd take on the charges, hence why I'm not answering them.
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SkunkDuster posted:Is that because they can use their knowledge of the law to work things out before it ends up in a courtroom? When you bill by the hour you have a strong sense of what your time is worth.
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Send him a collect call, and when the collect call says to state your name, give "heydudeyou'recollectcallingthewrongnumber"
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Zero VGS posted:Send him a collect call, and when the collect call says to state your name, give "heydudeyou'recollectcallingthewrongnumber" I don't think you can collect call people in prison. Pretty sure they aren't allowed inbound calls at all.
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seiferguy posted:The one hes calling from is collect, so I'd take on the charges, hence why I'm not answering them. Oh, missed that it was collect, sorry.
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seiferguy posted:This is a weird question but I got like 6 calls from an inmate in a jail. I don't know the person but I caught his name on the "will you accept a call from x" and found his info. I'm worried he's trying to get help but is reaching out to the wrong person. Is there a particular thing I should do? Honestly, I would call the jail and ask them to let him know he’s dialing a wrong number.
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AlbieQuirky posted:Honestly, I would call the jail and ask them to let him know he’s dialing a wrong number. Better off writing him a postcard.
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See linked post:The Bramble posted:Here's the weirdest thing you'll read today. How hosed is the supervisor, and how hosed would the employee be if s/he did not report the supervisor?
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Since that one dude's never going to post the manifesto, here's a document I found stuffed into my door handle one day quite a few years ago. I've been saving it, it's really nice, some top tier bespoke craftsmanship honestly, I just keep forgetting to post it here. All markings are original. Either I was the blessed first recipient (and I killed this amazing grassroots movement by tucking the document away in my nightstand and then eventually taking it with me out of state) or nobody else was interested but they still passed it along, unsigned. You decide. For your (hypothetical) consideration,          In summary: 
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Volmarias posted:Is the red pen you, or was it there All original markings, the pictures you see are of the document exactly as I received it. I’ve never been able to decide if he wrote it with a pen in each fist, or if he went back afterwards and augmented things.
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well now I need to know how the saga ended, did he get his extra pipes and who was actually responsible for maintaining the water water retention pond???
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what a wholesome manifesto. dude just wants improved drainage in his neighbourhood, didn't even threaten to put anyone against the wall. i'd vote for him/her
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Leperflesh posted:well now I need to know how the saga ended, did he get his extra pipes and who was actually responsible for maintaining the water water retention pond??? Not while I lived there. Been a few years and I still talk to the people that bought our house, I’ll have to ask next time.
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The WATER has RETURNED
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Better off writing him a postcard. You’re right, that’s much better. But sign a fake name and don’t put a return address, just in case it’s some kind of scam.
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I have a family law question. Before my spouse and I got married in Illinois, we signed a prenuptial agreement regarding some separation of finances. We have since moved to California where we currently reside. The reasons we signed the prenup are no longer pertinent and we would mutually like to cancel the agreement. Do we need to file a legal document? Is a postnuptial agreement what we need? Or is there some other way to dissolve the prenup and end up with the "default" marriage arrangement? Ultimately I'm wondering if we need a lawyer and if 6-8 hours at $400/hr is the price to pay to essentially rip up a piece of paper.
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toplitzin posted:WATER LAW? Literally part of my field of responsibility now. That letter looks like something I receive on a daily basis.
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on a 3rd readthrough, i have to change my favourite line from "da, what's up doc??" to "the tasmanian devil strikes again" and now that i've noticed a second reference am intrigued by the looney toons theme i love manifestos
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spf3million posted:I have a family law question. Before my spouse and I got married in Illinois, we signed a prenuptial agreement regarding some separation of finances. We have since moved to California where we currently reside. The reasons we signed the prenup are no longer pertinent and we would mutually like to cancel the agreement. Do we need to file a legal document? Is a postnuptial agreement what we need? Or is there some other way to dissolve the prenup and end up with the "default" marriage arrangement? Ultimately I'm wondering if we need a lawyer and if 6-8 hours at $400/hr is the price to pay to essentially rip up a piece of paper. You should be able to book a 1 hour consultation with a lawyer, listen to a talk explaining that the consequence of dissolving the prenup is you revert back to state law on dissolution and that means x, y, and z (in general terms). You then both sign a piece of paper in front of him agreeing to dissolve the prenup. The reason you want to do this is that the worst possible case scenario is you informally agree to cancel the agreement, get divorced in future, then the disadvantaged party is advised by their lawyer that they can argue the cancellation had no effect because they didn't get advice about what it would mean.
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Alchenar posted:You should be able to book a 1 hour consultation with a lawyer, listen to a talk explaining that the consequence of dissolving the prenup is you revert back to state law on dissolution and that means x, y, and z (in general terms). You then both sign a piece of paper in front of him agreeing to dissolve the prenup.
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