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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:it was essentially a legal requirement in the US for a brief shining moment in time - the feds required passive restraint systems (eg airbag) but for older platforms OEMs were allowed to install automatic seatbelts instead because retrofit was too expensive / time consuming. once airbags become more common they go away. Oh sure. I just find it funny. I had a '90 Escort and you had to do the lap belt on top of it.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Oh sure. I just find it funny. I had a '90 Escort and you had to do the lap belt on top of it. I think they were all that way? The shoulder belt was automatic but the lap belt wasn't. I drove one of these cars until 2015, and I had to tell more than half of my passengers to do their lap belt. I'd believe a study that said automatic belts were actually more dangerous than manual belts. On one side you have a minority who won't buckle themselves in anyway, and on the other side a larger group of people who think they're buckled in properly, but aren't.
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NoWake posted:On one side you have a minority who won't buckle themselves in anyway New Hampshire does not require seatbelts for anyone over 18 or helmets for riding a motorcycle. Live free or die nerds.
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https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/masonic-home-pair-of-mercedes-190e/7082584320.html This guy actually has a second ad with another one of these plus a parts spare. https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/masonic-home-mercedes-benz-cosworth/7082583122.html
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My 92 Tercel was even worse, the shoulder belt wasn't automatic, it was just always attached to the door. The idea being you kind of open the door and slide into the seatbelt while sitting down. It was janky as heck and you still had to do the lap belt. Half the time I used the "emergency release" button on the door when getting out so I didn't have a seatbelt flopping around in my way and just had to buckle 2 belts when getting in. It was pretty dumb.
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opengl128 posted:My 92 Tercel was even worse, the shoulder belt wasn't automatic, it was just always attached to the door. The idea being you kind of open the door and slide into the seatbelt while sitting down. It was janky as heck and you still had to do the lap belt. Half the time I used the "emergency release" button on the door when getting out so I didn't have a seatbelt flopping around in my way and just had to buckle 2 belts when getting in. It was pretty dumb. Christ, this sounds like something they would come up for the 24 Hours of Lemans to facilitate driver change time.
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I think the only car I ever had to deal with that poo poo in was an Escort. Made me hate Escorts in general for a long time. I didn't realize it was a SRS bandaid, that's interesting.
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The problem with auto belts is a lot of people just didn't buckle the lap belt, which lead to underruning the chest belt and neck injuries. E: and they weren't hard to defeat and not wear anyway.
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yeah they were a truly bad idea
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Godholio posted:I think the only car I ever had to deal with that poo poo in was an Escort. Made me hate Escorts in general for a long time. I didn't realize it was a SRS bandaid, that's interesting. I had an Escort as my first car and I still have a scar from where my finger got pinched in the auto seat belt
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dphi posted:I had an Escort as my first car and I still have a scar from where my finger got pinched in the auto seat belt Ha! My first car was a 94 Escort LX and my mother "borrowed" it one day and the belt mechanism his her so hard in the head that it ripped out some of her hair.
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dphi posted:I had an Escort as my first car and I still have a scar from where my finger got pinched in the auto seat belt
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opengl128 posted:My 92 Tercel was even worse, the shoulder belt wasn't automatic, it was just always attached to the door. The idea being you kind of open the door and slide into the seatbelt while sitting down. It was janky as heck and you still had to do the lap belt. Half the time I used the "emergency release" button on the door when getting out so I didn't have a seatbelt flopping around in my way and just had to buckle 2 belts when getting in. It was pretty dumb. GM did it that was as well. My '90 RX-7 had motorized shoulder belts until I pulled them out and replaced them with normal seatbelts from an earlier FC. Unfortunately, that also meant changing all the side trims, A-pillar, over the door, and C-pillar. Also, drilling out a bunch of spot welds and removing mounting tabs for the existing trim panels and seatbelt track mounts. I did it anyway, because I hated those seatbelts. edit: though as I recall, Mazda warranties those automatic belts for life. Not sure of others.
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I think those automatic belts were quite rare in Canada - I don't know if I had ever even been in a vehicle with one.
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I think I remember seeing them in Saturns maybe? I seem to recall that some Mazda Protege guys in Canada sending a few Junkyard seatbelts down south to their BG chassis American brethren. slidebite posted:I think those automatic belts were quite rare in Canada - I don't know if I had ever even been in a vehicle with one.
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slidebite posted:I think those automatic belts were quite rare in Canada - I don't know if I had ever even been in a vehicle with one. Probably not, I think it was only a DOT/US requirement. I know old DSM dudes would look for Canadian seat belts and trims to swap them over. 
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Suburban Dad posted:Probably not, I think it was only a DOT/US requirement. I know old DSM dudes would look for Canadian seat belts and trims to swap them over.
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wesleywillis posted:I think I remember seeing them in Saturns maybe? Haha that was me. Upgrade was totally worth it and the BG nerd I ended up selling it too was amazed, that alone sold the car 
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Rhyno posted:Ha! My first car was a 94 Escort LX and my mother "borrowed" it one day and the belt mechanism his her so hard in the head that it ripped out some of her hair. Mine was a '94 LX as well, in a greenish-teal color. Yeah.
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slidebite posted:I think those automatic belts were quite rare in Canada - I don't know if I had ever even been in a vehicle with one. wesleywillis posted:I seem to recall that some Mazda Protege guys in Canada sending a few Junkyard seatbelts down south to their BG chassis American brethren. Same with FC RX-7s.
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super nailgun posted:https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/d/gresham-1989-dodge-shelby-pickup/7080482180.html Anybody from Portland want to go check this out for me? Seriously, PM me.
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thinking about it https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-1993-camry/7093666496.html 
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Brolander posted:thinking about it There is a pretty serious recall on those https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.theonion.com/toyota-recalls-1993-camry-due-to-fact-that-owners-reall-1819577805/amp
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Brolander posted:thinking about it That's a rare meatball. I'd love to have a go in a later 5 speed 1MZ model too, equally as rare though.
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Brolander posted:thinking about it Um yeah I'd be jumping on that asap
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Powershift posted:There is a pretty serious recall on those Oh man that's great!
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Actual gold if no subframe issues? https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/d/beaverton-bmw-xi/7094521479.html
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Brolander posted:thinking about it They are fast and sound nice but the chassis is awful, tbh.
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blk posted:Actual gold if no subframe issues? yeah not too bad? depends on what other issues it has that they arent disclosing though. 3.0 and manual with awd is pretty uncommon. definitely not as good of a driver as a rwd 330i though.
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In terms of breaking, or in terms of the maintenance nightmare that is a front axle that goes through the oil pan? it's both, I'm sure
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Yeah I thought it was gold until i saw it was an Xi
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Also "needs a new battery" is a code for electrical problems. That may or may not surface on the test drive.
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Facebook Marketplace seems to be learning what will catch my attention: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/238898157502200/  quote:1985 AMC Eagle wagon. 4.2 L I6 with a 3 spd auto. This car is currently two wheel drive but I have all the parts to make it 4WD. If you buy the car I will install the 4WD components with your help. I have owned 6 of these cars. The car has an HEI distributor ($300 part which replaces the unreliable spark control computer). Nutter bypass. New windshield. New wheel bearings. Not working: air conditioning (but I have a replacement compressor), radio, the driver side rear door latch, and the vacuum operated transfer case switch, but I have a Novak cable operated shifter (worth $150) that I will help you install. I also have an NP231D (no slip yoke) transfer case that is highly desirable for its bulletproof reliability and low range 4WD option (will probably require a shorter drive shaft; about $100) https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1403347953167247/  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/233348641174341/  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/898574087240479/ 
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That eagle listing is perfect for an eagle
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If only I had $1800 and didn't have plenty of other projects, not to mention $2500+ of plumbing about to be done. Having Adult Priorities suck. edit: now, if someone were to buy my AE86...
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Darchangel posted:If only I had $1800 and didn't have plenty of other projects But he'll (or she'll) help you install all that stuff! Making new friends, won't that be fun?
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 wanna put it in H so fuckin bad. the thing beside it: 
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/251852672501914/ 
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Yesterday's "Nice Price or Crack Pipe" from Jalopnik subject is quite the thing. Odd choice of wheels for an AMC Hornet, I agree with you there.   Even odder choice of interior and engine! Apparently there's an entire early BMW M Roadster sitting under that bodywork. More here, yours for only $14,500.  https://knoxville.craigslist.org/cto/d/seymour-1975-amc-hornet-custom-built/7085021640.html
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