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Oh... poo poo I'm so sorry dude. Trust that I understand about the complications, ie overtaxing the healthcare system / people going without pay as this is both part of my current livelihood and as someone who grew up in good old fashioned southern USA trailer park poverty. Do you think the near-term economic hardships will be worse than 2008 level type stuff? That is one aspect I haven't given much though to, mostly because I've just been looking more at the "how do we survive the disease" type scenario 1st and not stepping back to look at the direct economic aspect. Seeing Microsoft, Amazon etc guarantee hourly pay even if people are sent home is encouraging, but yeah not feasible for smaller service industry businesses even if they wanted to do that.
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Even if there isn't Mad Max hellscape level societal collapse from this, the working class is going to take it up the shitter HARD. Anyone remember all those pieces about what outlandish percent of people are X number of paychecks from bankruptcy? Well now we're going to see a whole hell of a lot of them go without those paychecks all at the same time, with a bonus side order of US-healthcare-level surprise sex hospital bills for some. Buckle up, gonna be a wild ride.
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OTOH, if things are as dire as you fear, then it may just be the tipping point needed to break this new Gilded Age.
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https://twitter.com/BreakingNews/status/1237098585965170689 Israel is having all arrivals via air self-quarantine for 14 days. This is the first restriction of such magnitude that I'm aware of.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Also please post whatever you're hearing from researchers/hospitals around the nation. I know places are preparing. I hope we're able to handle what is coming. In a week or two, we'll find out. This guy https://twitter.com/BillHanage is a friend and good follow for updates on big picture epidemiology stuff. He's in the world expert category on this stuff and it was hilarious driving into work this morning and BBC World Report was on the radio and oh hey there's a friend being live interviewed about what's going down. The other close contacts I have are in the MA and CT DoH and have a couple acquaintances / friend-of- very close colleagues who work at CDC or DHHS. My closest friend at CDC quit when they were about to get downsized out and now works in pharma. Everything from CDC and DHHS that I have heard (all 2nd hand, so take as you will) has been completely poo poo, either contradictory, or confused. The only consistent thing has been that they are pissed at how their agencies are dealing with it. CDC seems confident they will be able to get a handle on things but all agree its already in the 'management' phase and containment is already impossible. The 2 state level DoH people I know are mostly involved in response and both of them still seem confident they have contingency plans to do things like expand clinic space, call up retired / semi-active nursing personnel etc to accommodate staffing needs as the current system gets saturated. Honestly they seem pretty confident that they can weather it. Again this was just 1st-hand conversation via texts so no news to point to. Comrade Blyatlov posted:OTOH, if things are as dire as you fear, then it may just be the tipping point needed to break this new Gilded Age. I am hoping that even if its not as dire as feared, people will be much more open to discussing why Americans all are going into poverty / bankruptcy during an epidemic and other nations did not.
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What a country. https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-state-made-hand-sanitizer-produced-by-prisoners-announced-2020-3 quote:New York governor Andrew Cuomo announced on Monday during a press conference that the state will start producing 100,000 gallons of hand sanitizer a week to be given away to schools, prisons, and government agencies as well as the MTA.
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gently caress discussion I want the millions of newly disenfranchised dragging the wealthy into the street Hail satan
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It's going to be really loving weird if civilization indirectly gets saved by CPAC. https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1237105243193778178?s=19 Edit: final bell! https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/1237106246156800000?s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:gently caress discussion I want the millions of newly disenfranchised dragging the wealthy into the street Given historical precedent, it won't be the wealthy being drug
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:OTOH, if things are as dire as you fear, then it may just be the tipping point needed to break this new Gilded Age. Joe Biden is the Democrat frontrunner and his campaign supposedly floating Jamie Dimon as SecTreas
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Im just waiting for the plot twist where if Biden is elected his dementia progresses to the point he thinks hes trump and keeps blaming everything on Obama. "You see this blue suit I'm wearing? Thats the fault of the Obama administration"
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facialimpediment posted:WHY DO WE ALLOW FLORIDA TO HAVE VOTING MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ASKED AND loving ANSWERED https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1237107293470277632?s=19 https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1237107826985754626?s=19 https://twitter.com/justinsink/status/1237109045477154816?s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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Reminder they'll get the best healthcare your tax dollars can buy
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I spoke too soon about it not being in Tallahassee, yet. In addition to our federal reps "self quarantining," 5 state house reps are now being tested.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Reminder they'll get the best healthcare your tax dollars can buy Knowing Trump he'll find some way to make it a public expense that he gets to write off on his own taxes then the doctor triple bills and gives him a kick back or some poo poo. If nothing else he is genuinely skilled at that.
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Uh JFC the entire country of Italy is now under quarantine.
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[Madagascar Joke]
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Joe Biden is the Democrat frontrunner and his campaign supposedly floating Jamie Dimon as SecTreas "Joe Biden’s spokesman Andrew Bates called the Axios column speculating on Biden cabinet picks, including that the former Vice President was considering Jamie Dimon for Treasury, “laughable speculation,” likening it to fantasy football." Reading past the headlines loving hard huh?
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Uh JFC the entire country of Italy is now under quarantine. Peninsulated
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McNally posted:It was this poster Oh goddamnit, I’m sorry. I fell asleep reading. I only got plat for PMs, is there a way to disable or hide the report button? I don’t have a PC or laptop, and big dumb fingers on a phone are a bad combo. Edit: Well, at least a few others fell for it too. Anyway, back to lurking Bulgaroctonus fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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Snitches coming out of the woodwork here lol.
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Bulgaroctonus posted:Oh goddamnit, I’m sorry. I fell asleep reading. I only got plat for PMs, is there a way to disable or hide the report button? I don’t have a PC or laptop, and big dumb fingers on a phone are a bad combo. Thank you for the laugh, friend.
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It's the gift that keeps on giving!
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Well my flight to Rome was just ticketed a few hours ago. Cough cough
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god what a powerful post beautiful in its simplicity
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gently caress McNally, I thought the delayed detonation ordinance was banned or something?
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Is it too late for me to lecture the doctor on coronavirus?
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"Great Recession? Thats nothing compared to the Great Depression!" says author extolling the hardships faced by a generation born a decade after the Great Depression ended.
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A generation of Americans born after the largest hardship events in modern history, granted unrivaled prosperity, that have greedily consumed so much of that prosperity they've locked the next two generations out of it.
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Vasudus posted:A generation of Americans born after the largest hardship events in modern history, granted unrivaled prosperity, that have greedily consumed so much of that prosperity they've locked the next two generations out of it. 
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Slim Pickens posted:Hoping NPR's market report just starts opening with toccata & fugue while poo poo keeps crashing The music is "Stormy Weather" for markets down. Also, it's Marketplace which is American Public Media, not NPR. NPR's market show is Planet Money, which is run by literal Wall Street shills.
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Sacrist65 posted:"Great Recession? Thats nothing compared to the Great Depression!" says author extolling the hardships faced by a generation born a decade after the Great Depression ended. "Here's one last piece of advice. Aim higher. Your passion for change seems to be mostly for yourselves—health insurance, child care, student loans, paid family leave. Our passion was often to help others: civil rights, apartheid and famines in places like Bangladesh, Biafra and Ethiopia. Yes, it was naïve to think that a few concerts like Live Aid could save millions, but it was rooted in good intentions. Our generation may have failed in the execution, but we did not fail in ambition." Jesus loving Christ what the gently caress. Is it just this rear end in a top hat or do a lot of them think we want those things only for ourselves and not because it will help a lot of people? Me generation indeed, gently caress man maffew buildings fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:The music is "Stormy Weather" for markets down. Also, it's Marketplace which is American Public Media, not NPR. NPR's market show is Planet Money, which is run by literal Wall Street shills. And for all that, NPR still is hated by the RW as the personification of the liberal media.
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maffew buildings posted:"Here's one last piece of advice. Aim higher. Your passion for change seems to be mostly for yourselves—health insurance, child care, student loans, paid family leave. Our passion was often to help others: civil rights, apartheid and famines in places like Bangladesh, Biafra and Ethiopia. Yes, it was naïve to think that a few concerts like Live Aid could save millions, but it was rooted in good intentions. Our generation may have failed in the execution, but we did not fail in ambition." It's not even funny entertaining anymore.
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maffew buildings posted:"Here's one last piece of advice. Aim higher. Your passion for change seems to be mostly for yourselves—health insurance, child care, student loans, paid family leave. Our passion was often to help others: civil rights, apartheid and famines in places like Bangladesh, Biafra and Ethiopia. Yes, it was naïve to think that a few concerts like Live Aid could save millions, but it was rooted in good intentions. Our generation may have failed in the execution, but we did not fail in ambition." MotherFUCKER this is more self-feliating then the urban legend about Marlyan Manson.
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maffew buildings posted:"Here's one last piece of advice. Aim higher. Your passion for change seems to be mostly for yourselves—health insurance, child care, student loans, paid family leave. Our passion was often to help others: civil rights, apartheid and famines in places like Bangladesh, Biafra and Ethiopia. Yes, it was naïve to think that a few concerts like Live Aid could save millions, but it was rooted in good intentions. Our generation may have failed in the execution, but we did not fail in ambition." Can we root for COVID now? The real Greatest Generation will take a major hit but at least a good amount of boomers will go too.
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BaconAndBullets posted:Can we root for COVID now? The real Greatest Generation will take a major hit but at least a good amount of boomers will go too. Not like theres a lot of them left anymore sadly
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