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A Wizard of Goatse posted:hate to break it to you but the kind of guy who thinks "friend" means "whoever is currently kissing your rear end, or whose rear end you're currently kissing" derives genuine joy from loving their "friends" over and thinks it's you whose missing what's really important and it's not intentional, he's not building a complicated web, it's just a bunch of guys that he helped up who now owe him a favor: he's your friend, he's said nice things to you, he's introduced you to other friends who now owe you, why won't you just authorize a million dollar loan in his dead father's name? trump does this with his own personal value as well, it's largely based on what he "feels" it is because he'll claim the "trimp" name alone is worth $30 billion so he's totally got $29 billion dollars. it's why he keep saying he "doesn't know" people: he's severing their value. in his mind he's cutting their net worth by billions with one word: "i don't know him" . it's "he's dead to me" for dummies because trunp knows a lot of loving mobsters and doesn't want to accidentally give away a body so he compulsively stays away from certain topics. it's fascinating if you look for it.
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lmao it’s like the cultists are watching the other members in front of them collapse after slurping down the Flavor-Aid and now they’re like “hey uh this Plan doesn’t seem so hot” too late now bitch, take a swing out of the goblet and enjoy the ride
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Epic High Five posted:lol like a dozen people got caught illegally altering ballots or voting multiple times for Trump in 2016 and not a single one got any time for it. I don't expect she serves so much as a day for this i remember one of those was a woman who got caught voting for her dead husband and she said something like "he would've wanted to vote for trump"
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vyelkin posted:Yeah, they're dying of whiteness and Trump assures them more than any other Republican in their lifetimes that he'll never give a dime to a person of colour so they're ride or die for him forever. It's also easy to forget stuff like Dubya taking outreach to Hispanics very seriously coming from being gov of Texas, then the rank and file chuds blowing up the GOPs whole electoral grand strategy for a decade by going full white identity movement. Bush also strongly condemned anti-muslim bigotry after 9/11. Now look what Trump is doing by contrast, and that's why the deplorables will love him forever.
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dubya was straightup pushing for amnesty and his party freaked the gently caress out about all those spanish-speakin browns so he backed right down
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Philthy posted:Yeah, Calling yourself an independent or Libertarian became the norm because people were embarrassed by Bush. His only claim to fame was a huge bump of 9/11 and rallying the nation to go kill people which apparently people really really like to do indirectly. Without 9/11 I'm not even sure if he would have beat Kerry in 2004 for his second term. A lot of Republicans held their noses for that election. I'm pretty sure the R's have been shrinking the same way they did 2005-2008, maybe not at the same rate, but its the same phenomenon. This market crash continues and i bet you'll see it speed way up. Those R's turned independent mostly still vote R, but given the incredibly tight margin of Trump's 2016 win, mostly isnt enough. Another round of winnowing the semi-sane from the Republican party is likely to result in even more bonkers primaries, so there's that to look forward to as well.
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Philthy posted:Yeah, Calling yourself an independent or Libertarian became the norm because people were embarrassed by Bush. His only claim to fame was a huge bump of 9/11 and rallying the nation to go kill people which apparently people really really like to do indirectly. Without 9/11 I'm not even sure if he would have beat Kerry in 2004 for his second term. A lot of Republicans held their noses for that election. The lesson is simple: Bush was loving stupid but he was loving stupid in the wrong ways. If you're loving stupid like an rear end in a top hat who isn't paying attention in class and tries to laugh it off no one will like you. If you're loving stupid like your brain is rotting out your ears and you're proud of it then people will think you tell it like it is.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:I'm pretty sure the R's have been shrinking the same way they did 2005-2008, maybe not at the same rate, but its the same phenomenon. This market crash continues and i bet you'll see it speed way up. Those R's turned independent mostly still vote R, but given the incredibly tight margin of Trump's 2016 win, mostly isnt enough. while self-identified Republicans are pretty clearly shrinking into the hardcore Trump cult, Trump's overall approval has been pretty static all along, especially compared to the absolutely wild swings that Bush saw. Anyone who was gonna change their minds did it in the first three months of his Presidency and now nothing matters.
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Hispanics are gonna start going to the GOP in bigger numbers from now on, probably starting this year, because the Dem base has demanded the party take a firm stance on immigrant rights and closing down the baby death camps on the border, and the stance they've taken is "we'll not be discussing this going forward" A big reason why Bernie is doing so well with Latinos is because he's the only one who is even giving them the time of day anymore. The Party has decided to protect Obama's legacy by keeping the camps open and letting the GOP determine what their immigration policy will be
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Gusano scum have had it insanely good and are well taken care of by both parties in Florida, what can anybody who has aligned themselves with the Dems say? Obama passed a half measure and then handed the DACA list over to ICE? If you bring it up at a town hall you'll be dragged out by security?
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Epic High Five posted:Hispanics are gonna start going to the GOP in bigger numbers from now on, probably starting this year, because the Dem base has demanded the party take a firm stance on immigrant rights and closing down the baby death camps on the border, and the stance they've taken is "we'll not be discussing this going forward" I can see that happening once Trump's gone, but i really doubt you'll see it while he's still in office.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:I can see that happening once Trump's gone, but i really doubt you'll see it while he's still in office. Trump got 30% of the Hispanic vote in 2016, more than Romney got, and he's in a stronger position now as an incumbent and in the wake of the Dems being comprehensibly incapable of doing anything to stop him or even doing any outreach. The young ones won't vote for him but if it isn't Bernie on the ticket odds are they just stay home.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:I can see that happening once Trump's gone, but i really doubt you'll see it while he's still in office. remember that Chaldean community that went big for Trump because he was talking about loving up the bad kind of Middle Eastern immigrant, not them, they're Christians? now imagine that they were a checkbox away from identifying as white
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Zeno-25 posted:It's also easy to forget stuff like Dubya taking outreach to Hispanics very seriously coming from being gov of Texas, then the rank and file chuds blowing up the GOPs whole electoral grand strategy for a decade by going full white identity movement. Bush also strongly condemned anti-muslim bigotry after 9/11. yeah, if it weren't for the whole immigration thing, older, non-cuban Latinos would be a fairly decent conservative voting block due to cultural issues. Hell, Reagan gave 3 million immigrants amnesty in the 80s. Epic High Five posted:
Sanders is also the only candidate who has said anything about abolishing ICE. Turns out that when an oppressed people will ride or die with a dude that addresses that a fascist organization is indeed fascist. Epic High Five posted:Gusano scum have had it insanely good and are well taken care of by both parties in Florida, what can anybody who has aligned themselves with the Dems say? Obama passed a half measure and then handed the DACA list over to ICE? If you bring it up at a town hall you'll be dragged out by security? POC capitalists are the worst. It was a good thing Fidel took your slaves and Mao crushed your egg monopoly.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:while self-identified Republicans are pretty clearly shrinking into the hardcore Trump cult, Trump's overall approval has been pretty static all along, especially compared to the absolutely wild swings that Bush saw. Anyone who was gonna change their minds did it in the first three months of his Presidency and now nothing matters. Bush didnt really have any major swings other than getting a bump from 9/11 and a much smaller bump for invading Iraq Other than that his approval was a very much steady trend downward
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Latinos aren’t going to the republicans they more than likely are just gonna stay home if anything
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Why can't these dumb fucks take the cyanide train like those nice people from the meteor bullshit cult
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CharlestheHammer posted:Latinos aren’t going to the republicans they more than likely are just gonna stay home if anything "Latino" covers a hell of a lot of ground and some communities will absolutely go Republican while others will get an ICE paddywagon parked in front of their polling stations
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yeah it's a pretty giant umbrella, and if the chud scum turn out like usual while the rest just stay home, that's an increase in vote share for Trump in the end
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CharlestheHammer posted:Latinos aren’t going to the republicans they more than likely are just gonna stay home if anything yea, if they weren't a maga chud in 2016 there's fuckall reason to become one now. esp if you're of mexican or puerto rican heritage
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The coronavirus is the wrath of an angry God smiting boomers for being lovely all their lives. Enjoy your rapture lmao.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:His party also got a lot smaller in his second term because people stopped identifying ad Republican. His support remained strong because the people who didnt like him stopped identifying as Republican. This is also why the Dems are so obssesed with "civility" and being "moderate". Those people who stopped identifying as Republicans did so because they were embarassed to be associated with Bush (not his policies, just the fact that CNN and the Daily Show started to mock him), not because their actual political beliefs changed. They just decided to take over the Democrats instead.
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Our only hope is boomers flu Boomer flu take my energy (~‾▿‾)~
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Epic High Five posted:Gusano scum have had it insanely good and are well taken care of by both parties in Florida, what can anybody who has aligned themselves with the Dems say? Obama passed a half measure and then handed the DACA list over to ICE? If you bring it up at a town hall you'll be dragged out by security? Gusano groups have never given a poo poo about immigration stuff. Nothing you've posted on this entire page has made any sense at all lol. Even especially suddenly talking about how latinos covers a big umbrella, right after the above post.
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The Dems are jettisoning any outreach or policy concessions to Latinos and will suffer as a result Trump already did better with them than previous Republicans, why is it incoherent to presume he would do even better as an incumbent against a hapless party of now proven idiot losers like the Dems?
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Epic High Five posted:The Dems are jettisoning any outreach or policy concessions to Latinos and will suffer as a result Non-gusano Latinos who are turned off by half-hearted Dems aren't going to go "Shucks, best vote Republican than da-hyuck." The Gusanos were already voting GOP and will continue to do so.
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Trump did better than Romney with latino and black voters because literally no one wanted to show up for Hillary Clinton but all the RW shithead fygm minorities that voted Romney still showed up for Trump. Maybe that would happen again with Biden, but I'm really not sure. Bidens favorables are like 11 points better than Hillary's from this point in 2016. Bernie needs to pull some magic tomorrow because I'd rather not find out either way.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Trump did better than Romney with latino and black voters because literally no one wanted to show up for Hillary Clinton but all the RW shithead fygm minorities that voted Romney still showed up for Trump. the problem is despite all of Hilary issues, she could speak and pretend like she cares Biden can not, they can hide that now but in the general
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HONG KONG SLUMLORD posted:lmao it’s like the cultists are watching the other members in front of them collapse after slurping down the Flavor-Aid and now they’re like “hey uh this Plan doesn’t seem so hot” Wait they had a goblet at jonestown?
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Grape posted:Non-gusano Latinos who are turned off by half-hearted Dems aren't going to go "Shucks, best vote Republican than da-hyuck." The problem isn't them deciding to vote for Trump. The problem is that they may decide to just stay home. Voter enthusiasm matters a lot.
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CharlestheHammer posted:the problem is despite all of Hilary issues, she could speak and pretend like she cares It's unclear at this point whether rank and file dem voters actually care thar Biden's brain is porridge.
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I suspect about two weeks from now this thread title is going to be the greatest one in SA history.
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MrMojok posted:I suspect about two weeks from now this thread title is going to be the greatest one in SA history. https://twitter.com/dianabutlerbass/status/1237161062312620032
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It's unclear at this point whether rank and file dem voters actually care thar Biden's brain is porridge. while that is true , the vote blue no matter who brigade just aren’t enough. I just can’t see Biden getting anyone who would not vote dem no matter what. Maybe they can but eh
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It's beautiful.
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there's also some number of hispanic US citizens with undocumented/DACA relatives who assumed trump would chill on immigration after the election like a typical GOP suit. even if the dems only offer status quo poo poo, some who sat out 2016 will to be motivated to get rid of trump. i mean, i'm p sure if he wins big in 2020 the DACA kids are hosed ofc, this is basically the centrist dem theory of winning elections. i'm not endorsing it, it's morally bad, doesn't guarantee a win anyway, and it locks us in a dysfunctional codependence of negative partisanship between the parties where nobody ever has to do anything to make life better for their constituents. but in the short term, 
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