Filthy Hans posted:

there's voting against your own interests, and then there's knowing what your best interests are and voting against them anyway

DryGoods posted:

better start practicing your Biden's before next year

need some fresh material for the new President

euphronius posted:

gently caress Biden is going to get crushed lamo

Quotey posted:

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

i assume everybody's busy running around like a chicken with its dick cut off rn so i'm gonna break off some thoughts in here

i've heard it said before (and i agree to some extent) that artificial intelligence already exists, but it's not computers. it's corporations. after all, they sort of have a will of their own, don't they? primarily that "will" is just greed, with everything else existing in support of that greed. the employees are dumb tools that the larger entity, the corporation, uses to further its goals.

having a drive as simple and discrete as greed is actually what makes the whole thing work. the machine knows what it wants. it wants money. it wants number go up.without that, the machine would have no way to measure its progress ("fitness" in AI terms). it would act and grow randomly, or refuse to act at all.

go ahead and agree with all that, because that's not the real post. my friend, that's just the appetizer.

i think that concept - an organization itself being an autonomous intelligence - also applies to political parties. or at least to our two american political parties.

the goal would obviously be power instead of money. not quite as easy to quantify (how many senators is a president worth? or a supreme court justice?) but still roughly measurable by seats of power (mostly elected). if you can assign relative values to all those seats, you can build an AI capable of making decisions to further its fitness.

obviously trading seats for other seats isn't really how political parties compete - they compete for votes. so how do you win votes? well, if you feed this machine lots and LOTS of data about public opinion... it can tell you how to win votes. because it can tell you what people want to hear. and what people do NOT want to hear. it can find the wedge issues you should introduce. it can find the most advantageous anwers to your opponents' attacks, that actually pivot the issue toward your strength or your enemy's weakness.

of course, any machine would also need to know how to protect itself. it needs a survival instinct. it needs to be able to recognize potential threats - and act to get ahead of them before they grow into a real problem. mostly, it would handle this the way it does everything else - exploiting public opinion, introducing wedges, dividing up and swallowing its enemies' support.

if i were the robo-democratic-party-machine, i would have run elizabeth warren's campaign exactly the way it went

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

i assume everybody's busy running around like a chicken with its dick cut off rn so i'm gonna break off some thoughts in here

i've heard it said before (and i agree to some extent) that artificial intelligence already exists, but it's not computers. it's corporations. after all, they sort of have a will of their own, don't they? primarily that "will" is just greed, with everything else existing in support of that greed. the employees are dumb tools that the larger entity, the corporation, uses to further its goals.

having a drive as simple and discrete as greed is actually what makes the whole thing work. the machine knows what it wants. it wants money. it wants number go up.without that, the machine would have no way to measure its progress ("fitness" in AI terms). it would act and grow randomly, or refuse to act at all.

go ahead and agree with all that, because that's not the real post. my friend, that's just the appetizer.

i think that concept - an organization itself being an autonomous intelligence - also applies to political parties. or at least to our two american political parties.

the goal would obviously be power instead of money. not quite as easy to quantify (how many senators is a president worth? or a supreme court justice?) but still roughly measurable by seats of power (mostly elected). if you can assign relative values to all those seats, you can build an AI capable of making decisions to further its fitness.

obviously trading seats for other seats isn't really how political parties compete - they compete for votes. so how do you win votes? well, if you feed this machine lots and LOTS of data about public opinion... it can tell you how to win votes. because it can tell you what people want to hear. and what people do NOT want to hear. it can find the wedge issues you should introduce. it can find the most advantageous anwers to your opponents' attacks, that actually pivot the issue toward your strength or your enemy's weakness.

of course, any machine would also need to know how to protect itself. it needs a survival instinct. it needs to be able to recognize potential threats - and act to get ahead of them before they grow into a real problem. mostly, it would handle this the way it does everything else - exploiting public opinion, introducing wedges, dividing up and swallowing its enemies' support.

if i were the robo-democratic-party-machine, i would have run elizabeth warren's campaign exactly the way it went

tacodaemon posted:

lol


https://mobile.twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1237558812720037889

Quotey posted:

Quotey posted:

Der Meister posted:

how are they so incompetent and yet so successful

cargo cult posted:

There's supposedly an HBO show based on the Last of Us coming out.

Bip Roberts posted:

joes loving 2nite

StrugglingHoneybun posted:

https://twitter.com/yonicksmith/status/1237570468648898561?s=19

2DCAT posted:

Luckily, nothing matters

StrugglingHoneybun posted:

https://twitter.com/yonicksmith/status/1237570468648898561?s=19

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

they canceled E3!?

DryGoods posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG0ykzh47q8

Not a Children posted:

Once again Nintendo was always ahead of the curve

Rah! posted:

boomers voting for biden.gif

https://i.imgur.com/yBHg07V.mp4

UFOTacoMan posted:

so was john edwards

euphronius posted:

gently caress Biden is going to get crushed lamo

mcbexx posted:

Isn't this the exact premise for that Will Ferrell/Julia Louis-Dreyfus movie?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4558376

Der Meister posted:

how are they so incompetent and yet so successful

tacodaemon posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNNPR/status/1237517917593329664

mcbexx posted:

Isn't this the exact premise for that Will Ferrell/Julia Louis-Dreyfus movie?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4558376

That DICK! posted:

im voting for bernie sanders in the geeneral election.