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s*x n*mb*r 69 0.22%
w@@d n_mb_r 420 1.34%
Jeb! number 538 1.72%
Biden numbr 30330 96.72%
Total: 31357 votes
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DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Just think, what if everyone felt that way? Then you'd certainly be a drat fool to feel any other way, wouldn't you?
Heh. I can live with this.

(And thanks, all. Seriously. Gave me some things to chew on and even a reading list. I can't ask for more than that.)

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spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

temple posted:

Now, I'm "asking" what concessions are dems willing to make to Sanders's supporters to beat Trump. You gotta phrase it around beating Trump. Eventually, Biden may roll out a watered down piss attempt at addressing the left but until then that's my response.

pretty much the answer is "young people especially should vote blue no matter who" lmao

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting

DACK FAYDEN posted:

We'd get marginally less lovely Supreme Court judges, marginally better environmental policy, and slightly fewer kids in cages.

That is some evangelical faith-based voting youre aiming for.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/sadydoyle/status/1237400698809135104?s=21

loving lmfao this is pathetic

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
oh and also answering this other question

Epic High Five posted:

Has Biden actually promised any of these things?
He has said "carbon neutral by 2050" which lmao we'd still hit like +4C with that I think, maybe 3.5? I know it's loving high but I haven't seen the exact numbers.

It is, however, the one issue that he is notably better than the other side on. Which is damning with the faintest of praise!

FRINGE posted:

That is some evangelical faith-based voting youre aiming for.
Yeah. At some point I think I just have to abandon what's left of my faith in the establishment. It's just a painful disillusionment.

But oh well. My face is already dehumanized to bloodshed. Just gotta finish up with the self.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


DACK FAYDEN posted:

Heh. I can live with this.

(And thanks, all. Seriously. Gave me some things to chew on and even a reading list. I can't ask for more than that.)

Catch-22 better be on that loving reading list

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
It's actually really easy to come to terms with not voting for the center-right liberal.

Understand that whatever scraps of useful policy you might ever get from them will never blossom into anything more, because the scraps aren't the product of a hard-fought compromise, they're the whole point. Their political programme ends at the scraps, and you shouldn't validate that kind of behavior.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Probably Magic posted:

The Republicans aren't killing socialism in the crib because they don't even have to bother to, absolutely gently caress the Dems, a pox on both of them but the Democratic Party is the biggest enemy of democracy in this country and that includes their lovely voters.

This. Let those who would call you a sexist or racist for not voting due to their retarded choices whine when Trump crushes Biden. The party despises the young and socialists. Let the dem die yards suffer.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

FRINGE posted:

That is some evangelical faith-based voting youre aiming for.

Yeah, I think it bares repeating that Biden is pro-life, his environmental policy is the nineties republican policy and the kids in cages thing started under the administration he was a part of and thinks we should go back to.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I have long advocated for "vote blue no matter who." I have argued that one has a duty to choose between the lesser of two evils. Two words changed my mind: "Manufactured consent." Voting is more than an act of acceptance. It's a sacred, sincere expression of one's desires. A vote must not be outright coerced. A vote must not be the result of propaganda alone. For it to be so is to poison democracy and every noble aspiration of society.
I will not consent to Joe Biden. I refuse. Beyond his open contempt for almost everything I believe, the simple fact is that he is suffering from dementia, and the DNC's efforts to pretend otherwise are tantamount to gaslighting. As much as I may be ready to compromise my own moral convictions in the face of Armageddon, I will not cast a vote for someone who is factually incapable of performing the duties of the office they are seeking.
For what it's worth, I think I would prefer Biden to win, but only because I do not believe that Trump would accept the loss, and that what he does then will be far more interesting and enjoyable than hearing him gloat.
This is a deeply personal decision I have made, and it will be deeply personal for you too. Whatever choice you reluctantly make, I for one will defend your right to self-determining what you do and don't consent to.

:emptyquote:

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

FRINGE posted:

Trump is a disgusting piece of garbage who has probably raped children and should be in prison.

He has still done less damage to the country than Joe Biden.

yeah it’s important to remember that while Trump is a monster he is also a big stupid baby who can barely get anything done and the vast majority of his atrocities are just using the tools Obama left for him. Trump isn’t worse than W Bush, isn’t worse than Nixon, isn’t worse than Reagan, probably isn’t even worse than GW Bush.

by virtue of not being a career politician he is already a better person than Biden, though I’m aware that’s a bar so low we dug a ditch to put it in.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
if somebody gets mad at you for not voting for the senile racist sexual harasser neolib you should just blame them and the dem establishment for supporting an unelectable candidate

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
I'm incredibly excited for people shouting about having to vote Biden to stop kids in cages from happening

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

punk rebel ecks posted:

We should start pushing Tulsi Gabbard.

Seriously would not mind a third party run from her.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



Pirate Jet posted:

yeah it’s important to remember that while Trump is a monster he is also a big stupid baby who can barely get anything done and the vast majority of his atrocities are just using the tools Obama left for him. Trump isn’t worse than W Bush, isn’t worse than Nixon, isn’t worse than Reagan, probably isn’t even worse than GW Bush.

by virtue of not being a career politician he is already a better person than Biden, though I’m aware that’s a bar so low we dug a ditch to put it in.

GW Bush started an insane amount of wars with hundreds of thousands of deaths, Trump is by far no worse than GW.

C-SPAN Caller
Apr 21, 2010



mastershakeman posted:

I'm incredibly excited for people shouting about having to vote Biden to stop kids in cages from happening

I look forward to their silence as they continue, along with Guantanamo Bay, something Obama said he'd close down as a loving campaign promise in 08.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/1236997035473190913

I think I might prefer Trump :barf:

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I have long advocated for "vote blue no matter who." I have argued that one has a duty to choose between the lesser of two evils. Two words changed my mind: "Manufactured consent." Voting is more than an act of acceptance. It's a sacred, sincere expression of one's desires. A vote must not be outright coerced. A vote must not be the result of propaganda alone. For it to be so is to poison democracy and every noble aspiration of society.
I will not consent to Joe Biden. I refuse. Beyond his open contempt for almost everything I believe, the simple fact is that he is suffering from dementia, and the DNC's efforts to pretend otherwise are tantamount to gaslighting. As much as I may be ready to compromise my own moral convictions in the face of Armageddon, I will not cast a vote for someone who is factually incapable of performing the duties of the office they are seeking.
For what it's worth, I think I would prefer Biden to win, but only because I do not believe that Trump would accept the loss, and that what he does then will be far more interesting and enjoyable than hearing him gloat.
This is a deeply personal decision I have made, and it will be deeply personal for you too. Whatever choice you reluctantly make, I for one will defend your right to self-determining what you do and don't consent to.

I knew this was going to happen when SHM started posting in the succ thread lmao. I started posting about how vote blue no matter who in this very thread. Then I got called a dumb bitch by a bunch of tankies and now here I am, tapping this sign and posting pigpoopballs at libs.

Qurnah
May 9, 2008

every treumpo you take
and every trumoe you make
Grimey Drawer

C-SPAN Caller posted:

GW Bush started an insane amount of wars with hundreds of thousands of deaths, Trump is by far no worse than GW.

if we're including the regional instablities gw caused with his wars we're well passed millions tbh

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

C-SPAN Caller posted:

GW Bush started an insane amount of wars with hundreds of thousands of deaths, Trump is by far no worse than GW.

Biden championed the Iraq War, rallied support for it, just admitted he knew all the WMD poo poo was a lie. Biden has done far more to advance fascism in the world than Trump has in his lovely 4 years.


https://twitter.com/jamilsmith/status/1237630909047660544?s=21

loving lmao they see the writing on the wall finally

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Thoguh posted:

I know it happened in Texas, but how many other states have more people showed up just to click the button for Trump than showed up for the contested democratic primary?

Arkansas

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

really queer Christmas posted:

It's impossible to do more than one thing at a time. We can only choose one thing to do.

ok lets destroy the democratic party

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

C-SPAN Caller posted:

GW Bush started an insane amount of wars with hundreds of thousands of deaths, Trump is by far no worse than GW.

Obiden-bama started a couple too.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Taintrunner posted:

Biden championed the Iraq War, rallied support for it, just admitted he knew all the WMD poo poo was a lie. Biden has done far more to advance fascism in the world than Trump has in his lovely 4 years.


https://twitter.com/jamilsmith/status/1237630909047660544?s=21

loving lmao they see the writing on the wall finally

lol "stop fascism in america" lol that's adorable

biden's why you got trump in the first drat place poo poo

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

DACK FAYDEN posted:

oh and also answering this other question

He has said "carbon neutral by 2050" which lmao we'd still hit like +4C with that I think, maybe 3.5? I know it's loving high but I haven't seen the exact numbers.

It is, however, the one issue that he is notably better than the other side on. Which is damning with the faintest of praise!

Yeah. At some point I think I just have to abandon what's left of my faith in the establishment. It's just a painful disillusionment.

But oh well. My face is already dehumanized to bloodshed. Just gotta finish up with the self.

This is code for saying "postpone and do nothing", and it is part of the political handbook the right-wing across the world has used for the last 50 years on the issue of climate change. Often covered by claiming breakthroughs in science are "just around the corner" like "clean coal" which will solve the problem at practically zero cost, you'll see!

There is literally no difference on this issue between republicans and democrats like Biden, besides a branding of an industry handout at some point.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

oh come on no way does he pick deval for vp

i can see the other ones but that doesnt make sense when he could pick kamala and be good to go

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Raccooon posted:

Doubt Democrats have even realized yet there is a problem.

As much as I think they are fine with taking a l. I also suspect they don’t realize how this probably fucks down allot races especially for the largely succ class of 2018. I think they will find that they lose a lot of their succ this year while left retains squad and squad adjatant stalwarts. Which makes 2022 a good time to begin to destroy their nominees when they try to run again.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe

oh u better believe I've had that image locked and loaded for months

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Sir Tonk posted:

oh come on no way does he pick deval for vp

i can see the other ones but that doesnt make sense when he could pick kamala and be good to go

Who cares who he picks for VP. If he would put Bloomberg and Dimon in the executive branch, I'm toxxing for Trump and writing in Bernie and that's that.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Raccooon posted:

I loving loathe the Democratic Party. God loving drat it. Mother fucker

Hopefully the American people can be turned into Ra’s Al Ghul rather than the Joker.


https://youtu.be/2S-r_v08ieA

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Who cares who he picks for VP. If he would put Bloomberg and Dimon in the executive branch, I'm toxxing for Trump and writing in Bernie and that's that.

He can't formally announce any cabinet picks before the election so this will just be denied as "rumor" to those white hate it

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Crowsbeak posted:

Seriously would not mind a third party run from her.

Imagine being this big of a mark.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

spacemang_spliff posted:

I knew this was going to happen when SHM started posting in the succ thread lmao. I started posting about how vote blue no matter who in this very thread. Then I got called a dumb bitch by a bunch of tankies and now here I am, tapping this sign and posting pigpoopballs at libs.

??? Thanks?

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

does klion really have any place saying this after warren's run

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



DACK FAYDEN posted:

oh and also answering this other question

He has said "carbon neutral by 2050" which lmao we'd still hit like +4C with that I think, maybe 3.5? I know it's loving high but I haven't seen the exact numbers.

It is, however, the one issue that he is notably better than the other side on. Which is damning with the faintest of praise!

Yeah. At some point I think I just have to abandon what's left of my faith in the establishment. It's just a painful disillusionment.

But oh well. My face is already dehumanized to bloodshed. Just gotta finish up with the self.

"thing needed immediately by 30 years from now" to a guy who views the world primarily through the lens of quarterly shareholder dividends is less than useless, it's actively insulting lol. If he'd straight up veto a M4A bill that reached his desk what kind of action do you think he's willing to actually commit to re: climate change lmao

at least Warren promised big stuff now and respected us enough to hide the loopholes like "expansion of fossil fuel industries allowed in certain market conditions"

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

oh yeah I forgot to say welcome aboard comrade

it owns

i was poo poo posting while pretending to listen in a meeting and so I didn't complete the post

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

spacemang_spliff posted:

oh yeah I forgot to say welcome aboard comrade

it owns

i was poo poo posting while pretending to listen in a meeting and so I didn't complete the post

excellent

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Dolphin posted:

like we actually have the Trump adminstration looking at m4a because of coronachan and Biden is still on tv going "i would veto it once, i would veto it twice, I'd veto it a third time, I'd veto it a 4th time and if it came up again I'd veto it then too"

Lol national socialism is staring them right in the face. God drat it.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



mastershakeman posted:

I'm incredibly excited for people shouting about having to vote Biden to stop kids in cages from happening

what I'm waiting for is when all the dottering olds realize that a platform of alienating the youth that they've loved up until now means it's gonna have to be them knocking on doors in black and poor neighborhoods, and running the texts and dialers, so they start to make half-hearted pleas to get the youth to help out instead of sitting out or even actively working against them

no promises of course, only scolding

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Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Sir Tonk posted:

oh come on no way does he pick deval for vp

i can see the other ones but that doesnt make sense when he could pick kamala and be good to go

libs are obsessed with optics and their are some baggage heavy optics with the first woman executive being vp to an old white dude. theyve cornered themselves though with all the her turn reductive stuff from 2016 so they also need a helluva excuse for not picking a woman for the ticket

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