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StevoMcQueen
Dec 29, 2007
Just arrived at Incheon airport (~3pm local time) and it's a ghost town.

Our flight was the only one that had currently arrived, and it was half empty (almost everyone had a row to themselves). No immigration queue, single luggage carousel in operation. They had a quarantine beagle doing the rounds, but he seemed more interested in the luggage trolleys than anyone waiting. Arrivals area had a handful of people but was otherwise empty. It's so weird.

The only time I've been in an airport as quiet was arriving at Schipol at 4:30am.

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Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

WarpedNaba posted:


Adora Belle Dearheart comes to mind.

Appreciate this.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Public input involved heavy use of the n word apparently

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202003/07/WS5e634ca5a31012821727d222.html

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Facebook Aunt posted:

For the Benefit of Those Ladies Who Ask the Right to Smoke in Public.


hell yeah these are my people

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

StevoMcQueen posted:

Just arrived at Incheon airport (~3pm local time) and it's a ghost town.

Our flight was the only one that had currently arrived, and it was half empty (almost everyone had a row to themselves). No immigration queue, single luggage carousel in operation. They had a quarantine beagle doing the rounds, but he seemed more interested in the luggage trolleys than anyone waiting. Arrivals area had a handful of people but was otherwise empty. It's so weird.

The only time I've been in an airport as quiet was arriving at Schipol at 4:30am.

Sounds exactly like China 3-4 weeks ago. I'd expect it to reverse course completely in another week or so as new domestic infections stop and fears of outside cases coming in become real again, and entering Korea becomes way harder.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Are people still protesting in Hong Kong or has The Party won with the virus?

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


ugh

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

https://twitter.com/leftistthot420/status/1236806406831046656?s=20

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

My mom is going to see Shen Yun this weekend. :hmbol:

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Tell her to get a photo of the tsunami with the face of Karl Marx.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

McGavin posted:

My mom is going to see Shen Yun this weekend. :hmbol:

Ask her to send her impressions to you directly afterwards.

Teketeketeketeke
Mar 11, 2007


McGavin posted:

My mom is going to see Shen Yun this weekend. :hmbol:

Buy her an account and have her post her take here directly! :smug:

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
As I hear more about virus stuff and government responses worldwide, I'm actually becoming slightly comfortable with the idea of being in China at this time.

Because while of course the public numbers here are fake, the basic setup for quarantine and public health response isn't hugely awful in many areas.

I was assuming that other countries would have learned anything, anything at all from what happened here. Clearly not.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Atopian posted:

the basic setup for quarantine and public health response isn't hugely awful in many areas.

>police state curfew
>not hugely awful

well if you say so

like have you even seen an infection growth graph because for all its "setup" pretty much all countries (except japan which is obviously faking its data) are on the exact same curve. so no china's "response" hasn't had half a poo poo of value

Fur20 fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Mar 12, 2020

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
I think I would rather get a bad flu because people had free movement than be welded into my apartment with a much lower but non-zero chance of a fire breaking out.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

The White Dragon posted:

(except japan which is obviously faking its data)

I'd be interested in hearing more about this. I wouldn't expect that from Japan but we live in a crazy, crazy world so I dunno.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

BrainDance posted:

I'd be interested in hearing more about this. I wouldn't expect that from Japan but we live in a crazy, crazy world so I dunno.



normally i wouldn't expect it from japan either but they're, yknow, currently wearing a multi-billion-dollar pair of cement shoes courtesy of the legal graft commission olympic committee

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

d0s posted:

Smoking in Japan is weird, I still smoked when I went the first time so I experienced the smoker life there. Smoking when you're outdoors is really looked down on and possibly illegal(?), you have to find certain areas with ashtrays and stand there and smoke. Sometimes there are little cubicles, like a public bathroom but for smoking. However in tons of restaurants, arcades, etc you can just smoke wherever and there are no split off smoking/non smoking sections and nobody seems to mind if you light up right next to them when they're eating or whatever. This was around 2016 so idk if it's different now but was still really weird coming form the US where you can smoke outdoors all you want but inside it's almost universally forbidden.

e: I had a rebellious moment in kyoto when I was drunk and just lit up a cigarette walking down the street, felt like big american badass

whats the attitude about littering in Japan? this feels like they are concerned about cigarette butts littering the streets

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

The White Dragon posted:

>police state curfew
>not hugely awful

well if you say so

like have you even seen an infection growth graph because for all its "setup" pretty much all countries (except japan which is obviously faking its data) are on the exact same curve. so no china's "response" hasn't had half a poo poo of value

Depends where you are. In Shanghai everything is p normal now which may be good or bad!

And Japan got some poo poo passed today so now, 6 weeks after they started having confirmed cases and with almost no quarantine efforts in the interim, they may start actually testing people.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Areas of Canada, the US, and a lot of other western countries don't do poo poo differently (except clean out Costco toilet paper supplies) until there are enough confirmed cases in their Province/State, City, Municipality/County, etc. that it's already taken hold in a serious way. Here in Calgary people are still wiping their noses and mouths with their hands (gross), touching stuff like railings, door knobs, and handholds on public transit, then touching their noses and mouths again. It won't be until there are over 20 confirmed cases that maybe 1 in 10 people consider changing their filthy habits. . . maybe.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


BrainDance posted:

I'd be interested in hearing more about this. I wouldn't expect that from Japan but we live in a crazy, crazy world so I dunno.

Japan has absolutely bizarrely low reported cases and deaths so nobody believes they're telling the truth. Seems to be like how they keep their murder rate lower by finding "abandoned bodies" but this time it's people dying from completely unrelated normal flu, definitely not coronavirus.

Khorne
May 1, 2002

Rutibex posted:

whats the attitude about littering in Japan? this feels like they are concerned about cigarette butts littering the streets
Japan is hardcore about no littering. But also it's hard as hell to find trashcans and you're just supposed to carry stuff with you or something.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

I never quite understood the "Japan has no trash cans" meme. Sure there aren't many municipal trash cans but they're in front of or just inside every convenience store and those are everywhere. They're also near many vending machines.

Khorne
May 1, 2002

d0s posted:

I never quite understood the "Japan has no trash cans" meme. Sure there aren't many municipal trash cans but they're in front of or just inside every convenience store and those are everywhere. They're also near many vending machines.
At least where I was, I didn't see any in front of convenience stores. Sometimes I couldn't find them inside either.

I didn't have trouble with the trashcan thing though. It's just a notable difference coming from the US. There aren't trashcans in places you've been conditioned to expect them so it stands out as different.

There are tons of other notable differences. I wish public transportation in the US was like it is there.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Mar 12, 2020

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Grand Fromage posted:

Japan has absolutely bizarrely low reported cases and deaths so nobody believes they're telling the truth. Seems to be like how they keep their murder rate lower by finding "abandoned bodies" but this time it's people dying from completely unrelated normal flu, definitely not coronavirus.

Will the epidemic finally up-end Japan's (and Europe's Japan's) age pyramid?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Shumagorath posted:

I think I would rather get a bad flu because people had free movement than be welded into my apartment with a much lower but non-zero chance of a fire breaking out.

The most recent data has fire deaths in the USA at 11.2 per million population while COVID-19 cases are at 5 per million population (and the mortality rate for it is about 1-3%)

So yeah as of right now you are actually far more likely to die of being welded into your apartment than you are of COVID-19

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Mar 13, 2020

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Someone posted earlier an article that did an analysis showing China's data is just a mathematical function. loving :lol: every country somehow has the same number of infections except for Japan like come on. I would not be surprised if China is under reported by 10X or more.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
If you do the right thing and put it in the bin, you won't end up in detention for 21 days without charge in Japan, or however the song goes

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

oohhboy posted:

Someone posted earlier an article that did an analysis showing China's data is just a mathematical function. loving :lol: every country somehow has the same number of infections except for Japan like come on. I would not be surprised if China is under reported by 10X or more.

I think we are again learning that taiwan continues to be #1

can't wait for it finally to hit here and everything go to poo poo

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer

Rutibex posted:

whats the attitude about littering in Japan? this feels like they are concerned about cigarette butts littering the streets

Most people seem to just throw them into the drains though. So at least you don't see them?

I've caught many a Japanese littering, especially from their cars. Plastic bags make up 90% of the wildlife.

I remember walking along a trash-filled beach with my friend who declared that all this trash came in across the sea from China and Korea, but every piece he picked up to demonstrate was clearly from Japan.

The streets are still cleaner than Korea though, where every lamp post is a "trash can" unless it's specifically marked as not a dumping site.

Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 13, 2020

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Shadow0 posted:



The streets are still cleaner than Korea though, where every lamp post is a "trash can" unless it's specifically marked as not a dumping site.

That baffled me for a while when I first moved to Korea. I was asking people when was bin night and where I should put out my rubbish. And I eventually figured it out, so long as it's in a garbage bag, in one of the little piles of garbage bags near lamp posts, the bin men will come and get it eventually.

In Japan, it was much different, where we had several different bin nights for several different kinds of rubbish.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

oohhboy posted:

Someone posted earlier an article that did an analysis showing China's data is just a mathematical function. loving :lol: every country somehow has the same number of infections except for Japan like come on. I would not be surprised if China is under reported by 10X or more.

In this thread? I missed it, got a quote?

I don't mean to be the dick who is all 'cite your sources' I just got time to read stuff.

Zhengzhou has had 'no new cases' (yeah sure) for a while now.

Until this guy shows up


And Wednesday everyone gets this message

saying he lied about coming back from another country, confirmed to have the virus. The longer article gives out his job, his home address, basically the cops doxxed him as they do. Now he's getting memed hard and everyone wants him dead.

I'm guessing he'll end up killing himself. He's the current 'most hated guy in Zhengzhou'. But I'm also thinking, the reaction to this is so big that anyone else who might have it and maybe didn't properly report something is gonna be even less likely to ever come forward or go to the hospital. I guess if they just die at home that won't raise the 'confirmed cases' or death total for the city.

BrainDance fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Mar 13, 2020

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

What did I miss this time?

Oh, https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-03-12/china-says-immoral-and-irresponsible-us-officials-shift-coronavirus-blame

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

we should impose enormous punitive sanctions on those scumbags until they allow foreign inspectors to verify there are no more 'wet markets' to spawn more of this poo poo and make them pay an indemnity to all the countries getting hosed up

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Mar 13, 2020

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

hakimashou posted:

we should impose enormous punitive sanctions on those scumbags until they allow foreign inspectors to verify there are no more 'wet markets' to spawn more of this poo poo and make them pay an indemnity to all the countries getting hosed up

More likely the US limps out of this barely intact and in no position to impose punitive sanctions on anyone

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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Yes, this seems like the perfect time to enormously increase the cost of all consumer goods. Good thinking.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

More likely the US limps out of this barely intact and in no position to impose punitive sanctions on anyone

Hey weren't you banned from all China threads?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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BrainDance posted:

Hey weren't you banned from all China threads?

On the threat of a 100k hour probe no less

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Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

oohhboy posted:

Someone posted earlier an article that did an analysis showing China's data is just a mathematical function. loving :lol: every country somehow has the same number of infections except for Japan like come on. I would not be surprised if China is under reported by 10X or more.

P sure every country except maybe Korea is super underreporting now. It's just a question of if it's deliberate (Japan, China) or due to being inept at a public response (USA).

Italy has admitted they aren't even testing or counting anything but severe cases now.

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