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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Allow me to rephrase that:

Good luck getting scores of citizens to go downtown and pack a room for jury selection while there’s a pandemic in the air.

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Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band
Wow. I thought I had a pessimistic take on how long the panic would last. But even I don't think it would last the 5 years or so it would take before something like this gets in front of a jury.

The updated regulations would be, what, another 8 years after that?

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON

mostlygray posted:

Having "Food Poisoning" on Monday just means that you're super hung over. Nothing to do with exotic food. Just people getting too hammered at a football party on Sunday.

Some people don't realize it when they've used the excuse so many times that everyone knows they're lying. Just like coke heads who claim they have "allergies" and that's why they're sniffing all the time.

who gives a gently caress, it's their sick days let them use them as they need. there's no rule the sickness has to be a flu or cold or poo poo, working hungover sucks, and it's pretty bullshit any manager ever thinks they have a right to audit this stuff

sure if they go over their sick days and cause issues that's one thing, but otherwise, let it go

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Ceiling fan posted:

LOL. No problem. "This Elon Musk wannabe didn't even think the that the PLA they were using in these valves would outgas nitrous oxide and interfere with the infected lungs enough to tip this poor, beloved grandparent over the edge into death." And it might even be true.

But, hey, maybe this innovator would do a google search to find out their stock is totally unsuitable for medical purposes first. In a time that people are hording toilet paper while saying no effort is too small to stop this plague.

"The government told us to, and signed off on the materials and methods. You can all eat the saltiest part of my rear end, because we have qualified immunity. The bill for wasting my time will be mailed in 3-5 business days."

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

StrangersInTheNight posted:

who gives a gently caress, it's their sick days let them use them as they need. there's no rule the sickness has to be a flu or cold or poo poo, working hungover sucks, and it's pretty bullshit any manager ever thinks they have a right to audit this stuff

sure if they go over their sick days and cause issues that's one thing, but otherwise, let it go

This is one case where no it's kinda bullshit to let it slide. People that use sick days as hangover recovery days often go to work when they're actually sick because of a 'I may as well go to work and get paid to suffer through this mild cold and save my sick time so I can go party' attitude and make the entire office sick.

Use your sick days for being sick not to extend your weekend booze up.

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
Or maybe live in a civilized society where sick days aren't rationed? Surely there are jobs in the States where they treat you like actual human beings...

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
Only if you consider "cadaver" a job

Boba Pearl
Dec 27, 2019

by Athanatos

Serephina posted:

Or maybe live in a civilized society where sick days aren't rationed? Surely there are jobs in the States where they treat you like actual human beings...

You know there isn't lmao.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Serephina posted:

Surely there are jobs in the States where they treat you like actual human beings...

:lol:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Serephina posted:

Or maybe live in a civilized society where sick days aren't rationed? Surely there are jobs in the States where they treat you like actual human beings...

I have 170 hours of sick leave banked up, thats a whole lot of hangovers! (Irish Australian - so you just know I got a few in the pipeline).

Serjeant Snubbin
Feb 1, 2002

Pillbug

StrangersInTheNight posted:

who gives a gently caress, it's their sick days let them use them as they need. there's no rule the sickness has to be a flu or cold or poo poo, working hungover sucks, and it's pretty bullshit any manager ever thinks they have a right to audit this stuff

sure if they go over their sick days and cause issues that's one thing, but otherwise, let it go

I know how my performance deteriorates when I'm tired. There are a lot of jobs and people where showing up to work hungover or tired is quite dangerous.

In my job the risk is that I delete a file that maybe should have gone onto tape. Or maybe my algorithm is a bit sub-par. But still the risk exists.

Let the idiots have their sick day. Better to sleep and stink at home than next to me.

Edit: I recently read a study on the impact of lack of sleep on work performance but I can't even remember the title because I'm tired, just proving that performance does decrease to dangerous levels when you should be at home napping but instead you're sitting in front of a computer.

Serjeant Snubbin fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Mar 17, 2020

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/mSSvIE6.gifv

https://i.imgur.com/r2DK6DE.gifv

Gonna need to learn how to build stuff like this when the apocalypse hits this summer.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

those are facts though, I wanted to understand what's happening and share sentiments I heard from friends who actually lived or grew up in Xinjiang. How can you think my saying that .5% of chinese people live there but they make up 22% of the prison population as anything but condemnation?

I still think it was a de facto racist policy and ethnic cleansing but I felt the framing in western media was inaccurate.

Are you from Xinjiang?

Modest Mao fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Mar 17, 2020

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Cartoon Man posted:

https://i.imgur.com/mSSvIE6.gifv

https://i.imgur.com/r2DK6DE.gifv

Gonna need to learn how to build stuff like this when the apocalypse hits this summer.

not too complicated. all of the motor and such is at the back. he just has control cables running to the front.

other people
Jun 27, 2004
Associate Christ
all you need is a log and some friends

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p32oOqFgQ3o

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

other people posted:

and some friends

:smithicide:

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Oh that brings me back to my Coleco days...

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

Modest Mao posted:

those are facts though, I wanted to understand what's happening and share sentiments I heard from friends who actually lived or grew up in Xinjiang. How can you think my saying that .5% of chinese people live there but they make up 22% of the prison population as anything but condemnation?

I still think it was a de facto racist policy and ethnic cleansing but I felt the framing in western media was inaccurate.

Are you from Xinjiang?

lots of people are unable to hold 'x did something bad' and 'x later did something effective' in their heads at the same time

like it or not the CCP is going to go on a propaganda offensive over the coming months and in the long run is going to come out in a stronger position (if the economy doesn't completely collapse)

and if anyone thinks i remotely like the CCP in making this judgement they need to get their head checked. i spent six years studying them in college and postgrad and all i have is bitter cynicism, frustration and disappointment

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Modest Mao posted:

I still think it was a de facto racist policy and ethnic cleansing

No, that's it, that's all you need to write, the media can't frame policies like that "wrongly" except by arguing that they're good, defending them or otherwise saying that "it's not as bad as it looks," the poo poo that you did. There is no excuse for thinking or arguing this dumb poo poo.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Merely de facto, implying that maybe the government has good intentions. :thunk:

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z85Mn_dUmtw

lol if you
Jun 29, 2004

I am going to remove your penis, in thin slices, like salami, just for starters.

Imagined posted:

I would've thought crush syndrome more likely, which is a real phenomenon in which a person is so crushed their muscles release a deadly amount of myoglobin and potassium and other stuff that causes acute kidney failure when the pressure is removed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush_syndrome

There is also reperfusion injury, which is trauma caused by blood flow suddenly returning to a tissue after a period of hypoxia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reperfusion_injury

So I think it's plausible that someone could be crushed in such a way that they're still talking but essentially dead as soon as they're released.

it has happened at least once, very famously and tragically. (don't!) google Omayra Sánchez Garzón for some pictures that will gently caress up your day big time

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

lol if you posted:

it has happened at least once, very famously and tragically. (don't!) google Omayra Sánchez Garzón for some pictures that will gently caress up your day big time

That's not really the same thing, she either died of hypothermia or gangrene. Horrible story though.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS




“Dirty hands are dangerous. To keep the disease away be cultured; before eating, wash your hands with soap.” Soviet poster from 1955, words by Vladimir Mayakovsky.

Dogmeat
Jun 20, 2003


Woof!

lol if you posted:

it has happened at least once, very famously and tragically. (don't!) google Omayra Sánchez Garzón for some pictures that will gently caress up your day big time

There was a very famous episode of the police procedural Homicide that involved a guy crushed between a subway and the platform. He was currently alive but going to die as soon as they moved him. It was just TV, though a lot of people saw it and probably internalized that it was a thing that could happen.

In real life a guy did get penned between the subway and the platform just like in the show, and it mushed up his guts so bad he sued and was awarded $10 million, but he didn't die as soon as they moved him/the train.

https://nypost.com/2016/10/27/man-awarded-10m-for-being-nearly-crushed-to-death-on-subway-platform/

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Better put my hazard lights on:
https://i.imgur.com/ZitSEo2.gifv

Like a glove:
https://i.imgur.com/yQvoB.gifv

Downhill nope:
https://i.imgur.com/gjw0G4h.mp4

Cartoon Man fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Mar 18, 2020

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
That doesn't look so bad, outside of following someone throwing tons of dirt and rocks at you.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Imagined posted:


There is also reperfusion injury, which is trauma caused by blood flow suddenly returning to a tissue after a period of hypoxia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reperfusion_injury

So I think it's plausible that someone could be crushed in such a way that they're still talking but essentially dead as soon as they're released.

Ischemia, not hypoxia.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




kimihia posted:

I know how my performance deteriorates when I'm tired. There are a lot of jobs and people where showing up to work hungover or tired is quite dangerous.

In my job the risk is that I delete a file that maybe should have gone onto tape. Or maybe my algorithm is a bit sub-par. But still the risk exists.

Let the idiots have their sick day. Better to sleep and stink at home than next to me.

Edit: I recently read a study on the impact of lack of sleep on work performance but I can't even remember the title because I'm tired, just proving that performance does decrease to dangerous levels when you should be at home napping but instead you're sitting in front of a computer.

Eh if it's once or twice a year, sure, sometimes things come up. But if it's happening once a month that's really just being an rear end in a top hat. Stop getting trashed or staying up late on Sunday nights if you know you need to be functional by 9 am Monday morning. That's a choice.

And if you're going to work sick so you can bank your sick days for routine "Monday Morning Flu" days, then you're a mega rear end in a top hat and an enemy of the people.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Facebook Aunt posted:

Eh if it's once or twice a year, sure, sometimes things come up. But if it's happening once a month that's really just being an rear end in a top hat. Stop getting trashed or staying up late on Sunday nights if you know you need to be functional by 9 am Monday morning. That's a choice.

And if you're going to work sick so you can bank your sick days for routine "Monday Morning Flu" days, then you're a mega rear end in a top hat and an enemy of the people.

The two who abused it at my workplace did it multiple times a month. It was completely blatant what they were doing. Not sure if they worked sick, but we had relatively lenient sick days (no unlimited sick pay, but you had to basically disappear for multiple days or in a really important time to actually get questioned) so they were just working less than 40 hours a week a lot of the time.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


https://i.imgur.com/WXeppxc.mp4

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Ceiling fan posted:

LOL. No problem. "This Elon Musk wannabe didn't even think the that the PLA they were using in these valves would outgas nitrous oxide and interfere with the infected lungs enough to tip this poor, beloved grandparent over the edge into death." And it might even be true.

But, hey, maybe this innovator would do a google search to find out their stock is totally unsuitable for medical purposes first. In a time that people are hording toilet paper while saying no effort is too small to stop this plague.

The parts appear to be SLS printed nylon PA-12 from what I can find, which is approved for medical use.
https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/covid-19-3d-printed-valve-for-reanimation-device/

quote:

After the first valves were 3D printed using a filament extrusion system, on location at the hospital, more valves were later 3D printed by another local firm, Lonati SpA, using a polymer laser powder bed fusion process (photo below) and a custom polyamide-based material.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90477940/these-good-samaritans-with-a-3d-printer-are-saving-lives-by-making-new-respirator-valves-for-free

quote:

Though this was the first time Lonati SpA has printed something for the medical sector, Faini says the company’s SLS 3D printers can print with PA12, a material that can be sanitized and used for biomedical purposes.

https://www.forecast3d.com/materials/sls

quote:

Nylon PA is a durable nylon 12 material used for real-world testing and functional end-use parts. This material has great surface finish and feature detail, low moisture absorbtion, and good chemical resistance. Nylon PA is also compliant with autoclave sterilization, making it a great choice for some medical applications.

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all

Look at that S-Car Go.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON

EvilJoven posted:

This is one case where no it's kinda bullshit to let it slide. People that use sick days as hangover recovery days often go to work when they're actually sick because of a 'I may as well go to work and get paid to suffer through this mild cold and save my sick time so I can go party' attitude and make the entire office sick.

Use your sick days for being sick not to extend your weekend booze up.

No, you don't get to judge how people spend their sick days based on some misguided paternalistic notion they will 'misspend' them in the future. If people are coming in sick, that is a separate issue to be dealt with if and when it occurs - don't deny people sick days based on the assumption it will automatically happen.

Jfc I am a manager and this type of management is the worst, don't you people read AskAManager?

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


EvilJoven posted:

This is one case where no it's kinda bullshit to let it slide. People that use sick days as hangover recovery days often go to work when they're actually sick because of a 'I may as well go to work and get paid to suffer through this mild cold and save my sick time so I can go party' attitude and make the entire office sick.

Use your sick days for being sick not to extend your weekend booze up.

Would you prefer that they go to work and perform in a subpar manner because they feel like poo poo? Like, say, if they're operating heavy machinery and someone's life (or multiple lives) could very well be on the line?

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde

Dannywilson posted:

Look at that S-Car Go.
:dadjoke:







:golfclap:

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

Here's an OSHA related song by a chill craftsman guy (starts at 8:42 in case it doesn't start at the time stamp).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xl8M-FPRgc&t=522s

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Kith posted:

Would you prefer that they go to work and perform in a subpar manner because they feel like poo poo? Like, say, if they're operating heavy machinery and someone's life (or multiple lives) could very well be on the line?

I would prefer not to hire someone who's chronically absent because of alcohol abuse.

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