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Yeah, the Pound is at $1.15 and the fireworks really haven't started yet. On one hand, it could promote British manufacturing/agricultural production, if the UK could take advantage of it or the British economy may be in such poor shape (because of the "Herd Immunity" i.e Wannsee v2) that you will get the worse of both worlds...imports will be immensely more expensive but there is no other choice.
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V. Illych L. posted:
Well, Corbyn is gone, so... To be honest I think a lot of the British left and British people generally are probably more amenable to communism than to social democracy. Half of what the Sun and others are doing is talking about Workers being taken advantage of by The (left wing / liberal / multicultural) Elites; they do that because there is a definite anti-elitist tendency in the working class, which Boris just took advantage of to run against his own party. Fundamentally people are right that they're being screwed by the elites, they just tend to want to see the elites as notbritish. Social democracy isn't really appealing to a lot of people because it starts out talking the right talk but then wusses out when it comes to redistribution of wealth and who that benefits. For example, confiscating the land of the feudal landlords like the Duke of Westminster and putting it in a sovereign wealth fund seems like something that might have a few supporters.
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Purple Prince posted:
This seems to be the issue, English people seem to tend to racism, whether or not they are socialist.
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Sneak Lemming posted:This seems to be the issue, English people seem to tend to racism, whether or not they are socialist. I disagree with it being racism specifically. I think what English people hate is smooth talking, well-presented, sloganeering politicians. The problem is that you need to be a smooth talker to get ahead in politics unless you are massively privileged, so it's easier to target "inauthentic" women and people of colour than it is to target Boris, because Boris is "authentic". That's why Corbyn did so well in 2016: before he got on the wrong side of the Brexit debate, he was perceived as "authentic", but after the turn to Europe, the Labour Party became allied with middle-class interests at the expense of workers. That "authenticity" is largely a media creation of course, but Boris plays the role very well.
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we are also extremely racist, its not really a working class problem, its a british tradition we're currently on track to kill hundreds of thousands cause we didn't beleive the chinese could do a science, its not working class people running the country atm
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Purple Prince posted:I disagree with it being racism specifically. I think what English people hate is smooth talking, well-presented, sloganeering politicians. The problem is that you need to be a smooth talker to get ahead in politics unless you are massively privileged, so it's easier to target "inauthentic" women and people of colour than it is to target Boris, because Boris is "authentic". No, it's racism. Corbyn's campaign wasn't terrible, and played a lot on real-talk - here's the poo poo that's hosed up right now and here is our manifesto on how to fix it. BoJo was always 100% a terrible person who has a track record going back decades of being a compulsive liar, a grifter, an opportunist. But he sometimes quotes Greek philosophers and talks in a posh voice, so the English are programmed to see him as their lord and master. He rode into office on a promise to "get Brexit done" and kick all the foreigns out of the country.
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Communist Thoughts posted:we are also extremely racist, its not really a working class problem, its a british tradition Turns out a couple of centuries of England being the white saviors of the world leaves a long shadow.
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BMX Ninja posted:No, it's racism. also the media framed everything as brexit or not brexit, and unfortunately that was the one issue corbyn wouldn't commit to
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Yinlock posted:also the media framed everything as brexit or not brexit, and unfortunately that was the one issue corbyn wouldn't commit to aka - the campaign was terrible
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Purple Prince posted:I disagree with it being racism specifically. Well then here's where you're going wrong, the English are a nation of slavering dogs all straining at the leash to vote for whatever posho promises to send the darkies back where they came from. These people don't give a poo poo about 'authenticity'. They voted for Blair, Cameron and Johnson because they're as close as possible to the PM the average Englishman really wants to cast his vote for, the blood-drenched ghost of Cecil Rhodes
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Crane Fist posted:Well then here's where you're going wrong, the English are a nation of slavering dogs all straining at the leash to vote for whatever posho promises to send the darkies back where they came from. These people don't give a poo poo about 'authenticity'. They voted for Blair, Cameron and Johnson because they're as close as possible to the PM the average Englishman really wants to cast his vote for, the blood-drenched ghost of Cecil Rhodes blimey hows this post made me willy hard?
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If the British are inherently racist then the way forward for UK Labour is either embracing National Socialism or committing to being the party of opposition forever. Any kind of revolution or substantial reform is also impossible. Just how pessimistic is this thread anyway?
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Communist Thoughts posted:blimey hows this post made me willy hard? Every Englishman secretly harbours a deep desire for a strong, rugged colonial to take him to task and scold him for his imperialism. The East India Company was actually just a paypigging that got completely out of hand
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Purple Prince posted:If the British are inherently racist then the way forward for UK Labour is either embracing National Socialism or committing to being the party of opposition forever. Any kind of revolution or substantial reform is also impossible. The way forward for Labour is to start telling people they don't deserve anything but they're going to get it anyway, you pigs, you swine, we're going to piss healthcare all over you and you're going to lap it up and say thank you, dogs
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basically the UK is even less progessive than the US its just we kinda fooled ourselves cause in america things like "being able to go to the doctor" are considered progressive
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Purple Prince posted:If the British are inherently racist then the way forward for UK Labour is either embracing National Socialism or committing to being the party of opposition forever. Any kind of revolution or substantial reform is also impossible. Which is correct - Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley were born several decades too early.
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Ardennes posted:British manufacturing lmbo
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Crane Fist posted:The way forward for Labour is to start telling people they don't deserve anything but they're going to get it anyway, you pigs, you swine, we're going to piss healthcare all over you and you're going to lap it up and say thank you, dogs I feel an uncontrollable urge to vote for you
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It feels instructive to remember that the platonic ideal of British heroism is a moustachioed man dying pointlessly on somebody else's land because taking any action that would preserve his life goes again some imaginary code of Englishness Fealty to the people who sent you to die stupidly is regarded more highly than self-preservation, it's the Post-Empire Death Drive
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Had a friend tell me last night that dealing with coronavirus shouldn't be a political problem and needs bipartisanship to solve lol
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Jose posted:Had a friend tell me last night that dealing with coronavirus shouldn't be a political problem and needs bipartisanship to solve lol they're going to be the zombie victim that gets to watch their ribs being eaten
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I always thought the end of Blackadder goes forth was peak Britishness. The bootlickers and the angry rebels end up dying together in the trenches while the landed gentry goes baaaaaaaaah, bully! at a safe location.
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Horseshoe theory posted:Which is correct - Enoch Powell and Oswald Mosley were born several decades too early.  the british are not "inherently racist" you dolts
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K9 posted:
it’s a bit of a joke, innit guvnah?
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K9 posted:
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hm, their history suggests otherwise op
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oliwan posted:hm, their history suggests otherwise op There are British people who aren't English,
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i'm not saying there isn't loads of racism in britain, just that i don't think it's a defining part of our national character like some would have you think
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, the Pound is at $1.15 and the fireworks really haven't started yet. On one hand, it could promote British manufacturing/agricultural production, if the UK could take advantage of it or the British economy may be in such poor shape (because of the "Herd Immunity" i.e Wannsee v2) that you will get the worse of both worlds...imports will be immensely more expensive but there is no other choice.
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Randler posted:There are British people who aren't English, true, but irrelevant K9 posted:i'm not saying there isn't loads of racism in britain, just that i don't think it's a defining part of our national character like some would have you think not all British people are racist, but a lot of them are, our society and culture are, our history is, and I'm not sure what else constitutes a national character
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Randler posted:There are British people who aren't English, Very helpful
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Ardennes posted:British manufacturing/agricultural production lol Purple Prince posted:Just how pessimistic is this thread anyway? lol
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Randler posted:There are British people who aren't English, They should correct that then
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Some good, materialist analysis on the englandfrage here comrades
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Continuity RCP posted:Some good, materialist analysis on the englandfrage here comrades It's the CSPAM UK thread - it's for americans and deathcrew UK people to shitpost in, what do you expect?
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K9 posted:i'm not saying there isn't loads of racism in britain, just that i don't think it's a defining part of our national character like some would have you think i'd actually say the opposite. most british people aren't personally racist but the country is institutionally racist as an unresolved legacy of the empire and its a defining part of our national character
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Communist Thoughts posted:most british people aren't personally racist
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