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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Hand Knit posted:

For real? How did I miss this?

i believe she's back with her husband, but who the gently caress knows now that they're russian assets :tinfoil:

it occured to me a few days ago that jorp, the man who hates the soviet union more than most cold warriors, went to russia to get treatment from doctors who were no doubt educated and trained in the soviet union

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upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

"THIS IS CULTURAL MARXISM!!!!" as they repeatedly smash his brain with a hammer.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

upgunned shitpost posted:

"THIS IS CULTURAL MARXISM!!!!" as they repeatedly smash his brain with a hammer.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Dreylad posted:

i believe she's back with her husband, but who the gently caress knows now that they're russian assets :tinfoil:

it occured to me a few days ago that jorp, the man who hates the soviet union more than most cold warriors, went to russia to get treatment from doctors who were no doubt educated and trained in the soviet union

They all hate socialism until they want something.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
https://twitter.com/Martin_Lukacs/status/1240386304598253572?s=20

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Nice dollar you have there, would be a real shame if somebody pushed it off a cliff.......

Oh, hi 7 dollar barrel of oil!

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
https://twitter.com/olcarcajou/status/1240288013189439489?s=21

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave


No see, you're the real racist for pointing this out

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Quebec never really recovered from Marois firing all the nurses.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

So it's settled, if I manage to get out of this alive I'm going to the Bregenz Festival

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
theres no way manitoba doesnt have any community transmissions yet, absolutely no way. this whole province is a ticking time bomb

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I think the reality is this thing is more or less everywhere to the point where the low overall number of people tested can't be used to guess how prevalent it actually is. We'll need to test everyone and in the time that takes, we'll probably get a better idea of just how widespread it has become.

CrcleSqreSanchz
Aug 21, 2002

I'm feeling something new...something...I'm happy??!!

DariusLikewise posted:

theres no way manitoba doesnt have any community transmissions yet, absolutely no way. this whole province is a ticking time bomb

Talking to people at work as we were making plans to change things for the next few months as we ride it out in healthcare...

"Months? No way, we don't have many cases, you think we'll still be at this in the summertime?"

*slaps forehead*

Yeah, it's just going to magically turn around in the next few weeks.

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


infernal machines posted:

do you think it'll get low enough they'll pay them to put it back in the ground?

Just start selling the barrels they come in, they'll make more money that way.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

I think the reality is this thing is more or less everywhere to the point where the low overall number of people tested can't be used to guess how prevalent it actually is. We'll need to test everyone and in the time that takes, we'll probably get a better idea of just how widespread it has become.

In other parts of the world where they're seeing rapid growth and lack of testing (i.e. not places like South Korea and China where growth has stopped) public health experts were estimating they might only be measuring about 10% of cases, so you should add a zero to any number they announce and figure that's probably about how many there are until testing capacity can catch up.

Health Services
Feb 27, 2009

CrcleSqreSanchz posted:

Yeah, it's just going to magically turn around in the next few weeks.

Many people don't have an understanding of what compounding/exponential increases means.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Health Services posted:

Many people don't have an understanding of what compounding/exponential increases means.

well, exponential growth means everyone will get infected faster and then we can get back to our daily lives :smug:

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Guest2553 posted:

Just start selling the barrels they come in, they'll make more money that way.

I'd pay $30 for one of those barrels provided it hasn't had oil in it yet. poo poo, I'd buy four.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

CommonShore posted:

I'd pay $30 for one of those barrels provided it hasn't had oil in it yet. poo poo, I'd buy four.

I think the barrels have a deposit, like beer bottles. You return them to Saudi Arabia when you are done.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
:goleft:

Harold Stassen has issued a correction as of 04:45 on Jun 20, 2021

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
I'm not sure what it's like west of Toronto, but the burbs east of Toronto there's definitely less people out but no one is taking any precautions in grocery stores or out and about. This is going to get really bad.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
Things have been going pretty decently over here in Nova Scotia, one of the couriers I talked to said that some of the streets in Halifax that are usually packed have nobody on them, not even in cars. I might be biased since I work in a hospital but all things considered we're having a pretty good run at it.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011




Cross posting this from the CanPol thread. Food bank need help. Give money if you can to help out the less fortunate.

Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!
Well Ontario just confirmed its first possible community spread case in Milton and is backed up on verifying tests (~4000, five to seven day estimate) that were only coming from those internationally travelling or been in close contact with people who had.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/coronavirus-covid-19-ontario-thursday-emergency-bill-1.5502527

EDIT: Ha ha ha, gently caress, Waterloo has two other suspected cases https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/what-you-need-to-know-waterloo-region-covid-19-march-19-1.5502761

Sage Grimm has issued a correction as of 00:39 on Mar 20, 2020

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
dude the community spreads are everywhere. major US states have been comunnity spreading for weeks.

wonder what the lack of testing is about. are we using the same unreliable test the US is using? the US isnt testing because trump is a large pissbaby who thought he could keep number low. what is Justin's excuse?

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Based and Breadpilled Bowinn Ma, we love her folks!

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
If anyone in the GTA is healthy and mobile and wants to help low income seniors (or barring that if anyone would like to donate to a worthy cause) then consider the Friendly Neighbour hotline:

quote:

Due to the need to practice social distancing during these uncertain times, many seniors will undoubtedly face challenges with picking up essentials like medications, groceries and other items. These challenges are exacerbated by the new reality of having to wait in line for hours at some stores, which adversely affects some seniors more so than those in other segments of the population.

The team at UHN OpenLab, which is part of Toronto General Hospital, has been researching and designing solutions to support seniors to live independently in Toronto’s vertical communities. The team has organized a group of several hundred volunteers to provide assistance with simple pickups for seniors in public housing. Volunteers help staff the hotline, communicate with seniors who need assistance, triage orders and provide deliveries.

The initial focus is on assisting tenants in the 83 seniors-designated buildings of Toronto Community Housing, totalling 14,000 units.

More info on the initiative webpage: UHNOpenLab.ca/hotline

quote:

The call centre is staffed by individuals who work at the University Health Network. Volunteers are ordinary Torontonians who want to help. All volunteers have been vetted. Vetting includes a review of government-issued ID (e.g. driver’s license, passport) and two references, one of which must be from work, school or another volunteer organization. Those who have passed the vetting process must attend mandatory training before being allowed to assist vulnerable seniors.

The UHN OpenLab team has been working around the clock to establish the processes and procedures of the operation, and consulting with City officials, collaborators, and seniors themselves to ensure that we have a coordinated, effective and safe response.

The Hotline will be opening soon. Visit our Twitter page for daily updates. At this point, the service will only be available to seniors living in low-income housing.

Here's the intake form to become a volunteer.

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

eric ciaramella posted:

dude the community spreads are everywhere. major US states have been comunnity spreading for weeks.

wonder what the lack of testing is about. are we using the same unreliable test the US is using? the US isnt testing because trump is a large pissbaby who thought he could keep number low. what is Justin's excuse?

there is a massive backlog at the provincial level in Ontario. the information we’re getting is basically 4-5 days old, think of it like looking at a star.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

eric ciaramella posted:

dude the community spreads are everywhere. major US states have been comunnity spreading for weeks.

wonder what the lack of testing is about. are we using the same unreliable test the US is using? the US isnt testing because trump is a large pissbaby who thought he could keep number low. what is Justin's excuse?

it's what happens when you spend all day slashing healthcare op

Starks
Sep 24, 2006

healthcare is at the provincial level. I don’t like Trudeau but we’ve literally just started doing our own version of “Thanks Obama”. yes he’s an idiot but not solely blame for your lack of weed or hospital beds (I know how transfer payments work but still)

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

We need to place the blame squarely at the feet of all neoliberals. Spare none of them.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Juul-Whip posted:

Based and Breadpilled Bowinn Ma, we love her folks!



They rule


Boomers

DariusLikewise posted:

she left her husband and kid to start dating this new guy last year

She’s probably got access to the patreon account while he’s in a permanently induced coma

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Risky Bisquick posted:


She’s probably got access to the patreon account while he’s in a permanently induced coma

Without a doubt. Isn't she claiming JP is both unable to speak and write, but has clearly expressed that he wishes her to communicate on his behalf. Hmmm...

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Starks posted:

healthcare is at the provincial level. I don’t like Trudeau but we’ve literally just started doing our own version of “Thanks Obama”. yes he’s an idiot but not solely blame for your lack of weed or hospital beds (I know how transfer payments work but still)

It's not trudeau, but decades of neoliberal stewardship, of which trudeau is a part.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Risky Bisquick posted:

She’s probably got access to the patreon account while he’s in a permanently induced coma

lmao the coma was induced MINUTES after she got that password

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Starks posted:

healthcare is at the provincial level. I don’t like Trudeau but we’ve literally just started doing our own version of “Thanks Obama”. yes he’s an idiot but not solely blame for your lack of weed or hospital beds (I know how transfer payments work but still)

Nah healthcare receives significant provincial funding and the Trudeau government made it look like they would increase funding by criticizing Harper's policies but then enacted the exact same formula:

quote:

TRUDEAU GOVERNMENT IMPLEMENTS HARPER GOVERNMENT'S FUNDING FORMULA FOR HEALTH CARE
Brent Patterson
3 years ago

The Trudeau government has struck twelve deals with individual provinces and territories that end the 6 per cent funding escalator for public health care and worsens the risk of services being cut and privatized.

During the October 2015 federal election, Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party promised: "We will negotiate a new Health Accord with provinces and territories, including a long-term agreement on funding."

Given the Liberals had denounced the Harper government's imposed funding formula, many voters not unreasonably read this election promise as the Liberals pledging as a government to have a summit with the provinces and to negotiate a long-term agreement that would cancel the Conservative plan to tie health care transfers to the GDP (with a minimum three per cent annual increase).

But now The Globe and Mail reports, "The deals bring an end to the 6-per-cent annual increases in the Canada Health Transfer (CHT) – the money that Ottawa transfers to provinces and territories to help pay for health care – that have been in place since 2004. The CHT will instead rise by 3 per cent annually, or by a three-year average of nominal GDP growth, whichever is higher."

In other words, the Liberal government has just implemented Harper's funding formula for health care.

Yesterday, Council of Canadians health care campaigner Michael Butler commented in this campaign blog, "This will ultimately mean lower quality health for Canadians from coast to coast."

In addition, rather than reaching agreement through a federal-provincial summit, the government has made twelve individual deals with the provinces and territories. Health minister Jane Philpott says, “This is not about divide-and-conquer."

In January 2012, then-Parliamentary Budget Officer Kevin Page estimated that this funding formula would cost the provinces about $31 billion over a ten year period. In July 2012, the provincial premiers forecast the loss would be closer to $36 billion. In July 2015, the Canadian Federation of Nurses Unions estimated the loss at $43.5 billion over an eight year period.

Just after the election, Butler wrote the newly appointed health minister and highlighted, "It is our hope that the new federal government reverses the Harper government’s funding model to a per capita Canada Health Transfer model, and implements a 6 per cent escalator for federal transfers to the provinces to reach a minimum goal of 25 per cent federal funding of provincial health care costs."

Unfortunately, the federal health minister has not reversed the Harper government's funding model, has not implemented a 6 per cent escalator, and the federal government's share of health care spending is set to fall to about 14.3 per cent over the next twenty years.

The Harper government's funding formula will be implemented by the Trudeau government starting on April 1.

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Starks posted:

healthcare is at the provincial level. I don’t like Trudeau but we’ve literally just started doing our own version of “Thanks Obama”. yes he’s an idiot but not solely blame for your lack of weed or hospital beds (I know how transfer payments work but still)

:golf:

https://twitter.com/natnewswatch/status/1240826052408160256

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Yeah I'm sure those billions of dollars couldn't be used for anything more important right now. Like I donno, paying the rent of 99% of Canadians that are out of work right now. Or maybe preparing hospitals for increased capacity?

we must preserve the social hierarchy at all costs. No matter what after this crisis your boss will still be your boss and your landlord will still be your landlord. The Liberals will make sure of that. They might need to let you die of corona virus, but they will be drat sure the hierarchy doesn't change one bit.

Rutibex has issued a correction as of 13:59 on Mar 20, 2020

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
More money for the dirty poo poo oil baybee dont you dare think of using that for renewable energy or for the many people getting laid off

The shipyard workers with UNIFOR in Halifax all got mass laid off, but apparently all the non-unionized workers are still working :thunk: Surely Irving wouldnt use a pandemic as an excuse for some good ol' fashioned union busting

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Sage Grimm
Feb 18, 2013

Let's go explorin' little dude!

eric ciaramella posted:

dude the community spreads are everywhere. major US states have been comunnity spreading for weeks.

Yes, exactly but the province thus far has refused to test those people or invest in increasing testing capacity so we don't have an accurate measurement of spread. If they continue to use those numbers to determine policy (which, this is Doug Ford we're talking about here) their responses to alleviate the pressure on hospital capacity will be too late.

Sage Grimm has issued a correction as of 14:13 on Mar 20, 2020

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