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MarcusSA posted:But its not going to be enforced in any way. It's more of an order for businesses. Our company got an exemption from the Bay Area order, let's see if we get one here too :/
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FCKGW posted:It's more of an order for businesses. I just read the LA order and A LOT of businesses get exemptions....
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I work at a race engine shop but since we have auto parts in stock we are essential. Go figure.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:I work at a race engine shop but since we have auto parts in stock we are essential. Go figure. Where does it say stuff like this is essential? One of the county orders? Because the state order certainly doesn't seem to me to imply it.
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Chomp8645 posted:Where does it say stuff like this is essential? One of the county orders? Because the state order certainly doesn't seem to me to imply it. I can share the LA city order if anyone wants to see it.
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AngryBooch posted:https://twitter.com/TwinklingTania/status/1240827417087770624 All Republicans, and her (a DINO). loving ghoul.
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MarcusSA posted:I can share the LA city order if anyone wants to see it. Yeah that would be good. I was assuming the orange county one was the same as this.
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What the gently caress can I do to get a recall campaign going?
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AngryBooch posted:If this doesn't end Feinstein, only death will. What is dead may never die. edit: Can we get the title back to gently caress Feinstein. really should be the motto of all Californians for all time
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:What the gently caress can I do to get a recall campaign going? I don't think you can recall a Senator
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Here’s the LA county order http://file.lacounty.gov/SDSInter/lac/1070029_COVID-19_SaferAtHome_HealthOfficerOrder_20200319_Signed.pdf
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MarcusSA posted:But its not going to be enforced in any way. I haven't looked into the specifics of this, since the state doesn't have a very good means of enforcement, but it would empower localities to enforce this, right?
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The state order seems more restrictive, I would imagine it overrides county ones? Boss says we're working tomorrow even though I'd say it's a stretch to argue us essential. Although tomorrow's job relies on a concrete order. If concrete company is closed, tells us what we need to know I guess lol.
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Found what the state is using for essential business: https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/CISA-Guidance-on-Essential-Critical-Infrastructure-Workers-1-20-508c.pdf
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So basically almost everything, lol.
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https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1240844258422050816 Edit: Also, looks like Feinstein wasn't related https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/1240826332696764418 Doesn't seem like the kind of stock someone would be selling right now if they were expecting a huge influx of money in the biomedical industry. Its not directly related to Cronoavirus, but I gotta imagine the value of cancer therapy isn't that badly effected. Double edit: Actually its down like 30% since she sold, so who knows The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1240844258422050816 Cannabis folks. Get in the industry now if you have a brain or a skill you have had no luck plying in the regular market. There are not enough people with big brain degrees willing to be in this industry so your coming in at a massive premium
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MarcusSA posted:But its not going to be enforced in any way. have you considered that jailing or fining people who violate would be 1. counterproductive to slowing transmission 2. disproportionately affect poor people who went to work despite the order 3. cause all sorts of civil liberty lawsuits
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It's pretty obvious that the language and timing of this is meant to ease people into the quarantine thing. The LA Mayor was super careful about using terminology that implied social responsibility to others and the honor system for initial enforcement, and his conference was about an hour before Newsom's. I give it a week or two before cops start really enforcing poo poo and handing out tickets.
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Yeah I mean they're letting you go outside just to exercise, and you can drive to the store for groceries. So if a cop pulls you over, what. He's gonna say you're lying about needing milk? If a nonessential business is openign anyway, yeah some kind of enforcement is possible. They're not gonna do more than just scold people who are out without an officially sanctioned reason, because if they actually started ticketing pedestrians and drivers, people would just get the word out about the valid excuses and everyone would lie.
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:have you considered that jailing or fining people who violate would be wow how did china do it??? e: i agree it would cause lots of problems but people do need to stay inside as much as possible i think point #1 is wrong though, looking at how things went in China Rah! fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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I mean at this point it should be pretty clear that drastic measures are needed across the board to slow this thing down. I know people aren't gonna like it but that is just the state of things. At this point we are going to be the next Italy but probably worse.
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The Glumslinger posted:Double edit: Actually its down like 30% since she sold, so who knows The entire market is down 30% to be fair. Could just be following the trend.
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Rah! posted:wow how did china do it??? How crowded are the jails and prisons in China?
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Cops at the lowest levels aren't going to enforce this the way their superiors tell the public. It's literally a future Gavin presidential tv clip being created. "Tough on viruses, tough on wine"
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Throwing people into crowded jails is totally a great way to spread the virus, just have cops yell at people and maybe write tickets
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I don't know if the cops are in on it yet, but NIMBYs have been using the shelter in place order as a great excuse to gently caress with food not bombs.
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CopperHound posted:I don't know if the cops are in on it yet, but NIMBYs have been using the shelter in place order as a great excuse to gently caress with food not bombs. Wtf
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MarcusSA posted:I mean at this point it should be pretty clear that drastic measures are needed across the board to slow this thing down. My dad was buying food for over a week before anyone else really started doing it. He has a whole garage full of all kinds of things. My mom and my dad are both in their mid-70s. Yesterday he tells me he went to the store just to buy some eggs and “see how things are” and tells me that things are good and that people don’t look panicked. I remind him the point of buying all the food and staying the gently caress inside is that you’re supposed to stay the gently caress inside.
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I went by Autozone last night to buy some gloves and some old dude was in there talking to the two millennial cashiers about how it's not serious & CCN stands for Constantly Negative News. Then he went off the rails about it being the fault of gay people and the folks that are "not normal, you know, more than 2 genders". Fingers crossed he keeps going out and thinks it's not a big deal.
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CopperHound posted:I don't know if the cops are in on it yet, but NIMBYs have been using the shelter in place order as a great excuse to gently caress with food not bombs. What do you mean exactly? E: they should be an essential service as a food bank. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:What do you mean exactly? I'll try to dig up some stuff when I have time later.
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah I mean they're letting you go outside just to exercise, and you can drive to the store for groceries. So if a cop pulls you over, what. He's gonna say you're lying about needing milk? If a nonessential business is openign anyway, yeah some kind of enforcement is possible. They're not gonna do more than just scold people who are out without an officially sanctioned reason, because if they actually started ticketing pedestrians and drivers, people would just get the word out about the valid excuses and everyone would lie. All my bike rides are provisioning bike rides!
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Actually, so I looked up the actual sell dates on the Feinstein stock, she sold ~500K on Jan 31st for $21 a share and ~1M on Feb 18 for $24 a share. Today its trading at just under $20 a share
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Good lord, every small business in California is trying to Big Brain convoluted reasons why they are essential right now. A nearby gun store/range says it's essential. Concrete company says it's essential (maybe might actually be I dunno). Gamestop is essential. The company I work at is adjacent to automotive repair, but is not automotive repair. We do not work on cars or have car parts. We install/repair/maintain heavy equipment in the automotive sector like car lifts and air compressors. Car dealerships are our primary customer. They "need" us but only in the sense they would eventually have trouble if they didn't have us or another company installing/repairing their heavy equipment for months on end. "Automotive repair and maintenance" is on the essentials list, but I don't think you can chain together businesses like that. Otherwise that also means, for example the uniform company that washes the dealerships uniforms is also essential, and so on until basically every non-retail business in the state qualifies as "essential". I don't think it works like that. Anyone have a good bead on this that can chime in?
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Chomp8645 posted:Good lord, every small business in California is trying to Big Brain convoluted reasons why they are essential right now. A nearby gun store/range says it's essential. Concrete company says it's essential (maybe might actually be I dunno). Gamestop is essential. Businesses are between a rock and a hard place. On one hand you can send people home on unemployment and hopefully make your debt payments or equipment maintenance contract fees etc. Or keep open until the state forces you to close and keep your people people employed. People not living paycheck to paycheck are fine with staying home more so than those who can't businesses can live day to day as well. In my case I have a savings for my businesses that I can draw to keep people from losing their homes. But I can't sustain that forever. Since I'm cannabis I can stay operating indefinitely. Maybe it is the wrong thing to do. But I cannot morally allow my employees to be homeless or in danger of losing their homes.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Businesses are between a rock and a hard place. On one hand you can send people home on unemployment and hopefully make your debt payments or equipment maintenance contract fees etc. Or keep open until the state forces you to close and keep your people people employed. People not living paycheck to paycheck are fine with staying home more so than those who can't businesses can live day to day as well. In my case I have a savings for my businesses that I can draw to keep people from losing their homes. But I can't sustain that forever. Since I'm cannabis I can stay operating indefinitely. Maybe it is the wrong thing to do. But I cannot morally allow my employees to be homeless or in danger of losing their homes. Are you at least taking precautions to distance your employees from customers and each other, providing hand sanitizer, limiting the number of people inside at once, etc. or are you just patting yourself on the back for being a job creator?
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Are you at least taking precautions to distance your employees from customers and each other, providing hand sanitizer, limiting the number of people inside at once, etc. or are you just patting yourself on the back for being a job creator? Nah we are a closed production environment mostly b2b sales. We basically do everything outlined already. Masks hand sanitizer gloves. We deliver everything we sell so again, masks Sanny gloves. I have gallons of sanitizer/alcohol on hand for trimming and cleaning etc as a normal inventory item. The only thing that's very difficult to enforce is the social distancing. Because it's not an easy thing to implement when subconsciously break the rule by walking by another person. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Nah we are a closed production environment mostly b2b sales. We basically do everything outlined already. Masks hand sanitizer gloves. We deliver everything we sell so again, masks Sanny gloves. I have gallons of sanitizer/alcohol on hand for trimming and cleaning etc as a normal inventory item. Fair enough.
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