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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
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80 | 21.33% |
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177 | 47.20% |
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ThomasPaine posted:Glad of the shutdown but Boris is just so palpably weak and scared and out of his depth, beggers belief that anyone bought his pseudo Churchill bullshit Rishi coming off as much more confident than Johnson, despite being, what, 15 years younger? Although I wish he'd say 'unprecedented' a bit less.
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"Now, more than any time in history, we will be judged by our compassion" From a loving Tory. (Who is obviously lining up to backstab Boris with a no confidence vote and take over as PM) E: Am I the only one scared that bloody everything is going through Universal Credit? The system was a munted shitshow even before you suddenly try to ram ten times as many people through it. RockyB fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Mar 20, 2020 18:21
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ThomasPaine posted:Glad of the shutdown but Boris is just so palpably weak and scared and out of his depth, beggers belief that anyone bought his pseudo Churchill bullshit The kind of people who did are not swayed by such things as reason and evidence and critical thinking
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Mar 20, 2020 18:21
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EvilHawk posted:Are takeaways counted a restaurants? My girlfriend's family run one and are completely shut off from the news... They said restaurants can do takeaways, should be okay. justcola fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Mar 20, 2020 18:23
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The cynic in me wonders, do you need to have caught ‘rona to get the money. Or does your industry need to be impacted by ‘rona and you be surplus to requirements to get it? How long will it last for? I like where it’s going, but proof will be in the execution.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:23
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Wait is the government actually doing something now
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Mar 20, 2020 18:25
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RockyB posted:E: Am I the only one scared that bloody everything is going through Universal Credit? The system was a munted shitshow even before you suddenly try to ram ten times as many people through it. Spent 2 hours on hold today to arrange the initial meeting. Then when they answered it took 2 minutes to give a time for the local job center to call me back. They are not doing in person meetings anymore.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:26
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Bardeh posted:well holy poo poo, my boss can shut us down now - I'll take 80% pay without having to do any work, yes please. Seriously mind I was genuinely worried I might be told to lay people off soon, this is a very welcome relief because letting someone go is horrible at the best of times.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:27
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Is that 'from' friday night or 'by' friday night? Because if they're still open tonight, every wanker in christendom will be heading out for a mucousoidal, last-chance viral gangbang. Oop, there goes the sister in law all dressed up...
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Mar 20, 2020 18:28
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Oodles posted:The cynic in me wonders, do you need to have caught ‘rona to get the money. Or does your industry need to be impacted by ‘rona and you be surplus to requirements to get it? from what the guardian have put, looks like you have to have employees who aren't working due to being affected quote:Companies and organisations will be able to apply for a grant from HMRC to cover the wages of people who are not working due to coronavirus shutdowns, but who haven’t been laid off.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:28
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OwlFancier posted:Jeremy corbyn continuing to run the government from the opposition benches despite them having a large majority. The rave plaudits Sunak is getting for his gravitas and and sense of the moment while rolling out Corbynism are amazing. The British left should accept reality and realise that we just need a posh guy who went to the right school to implement all the good policies and they'll go over fine.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:28
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Welp, so much for the fabled tory herd immunity strategy, took them long enough.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Is that 'from' friday night or 'by' friday night? Because if they're still open tonight, every wanker in christendom will be heading out for a mucousoidal, last-chance viral gangbang. Good of you to think eco friendly by making your post entirely out of recycled pornhub titles.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:29
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The camera keeps panning between Rishi looking calm and on the ball and Johnson looking sweaty and desperate and it's frikking hilarious.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:30
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peanut- posted:The rave plaudits Sunak is getting for his gravitas and and sense of the moment while rolling out Corbynism are amazing. So Keir starmer winning is probably a good thing?
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Mar 20, 2020 18:31
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"who are not working due to coronavirus shutdowns, but who haven’t been laid off." Yes this is a great thing to do several days after reducing their business with no details of recovery plans so they all laid a bunch of their staff off
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Angepain posted:"who are not working due to coronavirus shutdowns, but who haven’t been laid off." Yes this is a great thing to do several days after reducing their business with no details of recovery plans so they all laid a bunch of their staff off yeah it's a real shame this didn't get announced more quickly but does this mean that business basically have no reason to let go of their staff? i work in a hotel and the feeling was EVERYONE was about to be let go. i suppose i'll find out more tonight on that, but if they are covering 80% of the wages then surely the majority of people can be kept on at the same hours they have had previously. large_gourd fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Mar 20, 2020 18:36
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Cool, panic buying switches from bread/milk/bog roll/pasta to booze from essentially now then. No mention of where self-employed people who's trade is knackered by all this fall?
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Mar 20, 2020 18:36
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Angry Lobster posted:Welp, so much for the fabled tory herd immunity strategy, took them long enough. It still is a herd immunity strategy, because that is literally the only strategy we have until they find a viable cure. The only alternative is total isolation for everyone until a workable vaccine is available, and as I doubt (even after the past week) most people don't have a 12-month supply of food and fresh water indoors that one's a non-starter. It's terribly planned, and implemented even worse, but ultimately the whole point is still to end up with a population who are either immune or dead, while minimising that second number.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:38
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lol the scum journo "prime minister, what's to stop young people from having massive house parties of hundreds of people"
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Mar 20, 2020 18:40
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I really do wonder what long term damage this is going to do to the neolib project.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:45
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It still is a herd immunity strategy, because that is literally the only strategy we have until they find a viable cure. The only alternative is total isolation for everyone until a workable vaccine is available, and as I doubt (even after the past week) most people don't have a 12-month supply of food and fresh water indoors that one's a non-starter. Yes, you're right, I was referring to their initial intentions to let the infection run it's course and not enforce a lockdown.
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Bardeh posted:well holy poo poo, my boss can shut us down now - I'll take 80% pay without having to do any work, yes please. Dammit now I'm the jealous one, even though i've been working from home for two weeks
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Mar 20, 2020 18:46
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Oh "Sunak also outlines help for self-employed people -- suspending the minimum income floor for universal credit [used by the DWP to assess how much money someone receives under the scheme] . That means self-employed people can now access, in full, Universal Credit at a rate equivalent to Statutory Sick Pay for employees, he explains." You have to be loving kidding me, UC? That £94 a week is certainly going to pay my rent, cheers. How is that system even going to stand up to a million freelancers charging into it at once?
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Goldskull posted:Cool, panic buying switches from bread/milk/bog roll/pasta to booze from essentially now then. Amazon is already delaying prime booze shipments... There was some mention of self-employed there, but it was essentially 'get on universal credit'. Lmao at the Scum asking about hordes of da yoof having house parties and licking / infecting each other. RockyB fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Mar 20, 2020 18:46
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so there was a magic money forest after all
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Mar 20, 2020 18:47
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 Non ironically regrammed by someone at last weeks Lewis Capaldi gig. gently caress you you loving gently caress. Corona virus isn’t only contagious now.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:48
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Goldskull posted:Oh i'm seeing that universal credit is going to rise by £1000 for 12 months - making it £1317 a month for people over 25. which i really hope is true because it seems i'm out of a job after tonight, my work seems to just be letting everyone go right now regardless of this wage intervention. edit: it isn't true. nevermind. large_gourd fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Mar 20, 2020 18:52
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lmao, so me, on £26000 will get £20,800 assuming the client temporarily shuts down (increasingly likely) and we run out of work. Meanwhile, my mum, a self-employed Podiatrist earning probably close to £80k, can apply for UC and get £94 a week or whatever it is  Materially it won't affect her too much because she has plenty of savings and will be fine, but it highlights the absurdity of these plans, welcome as they will probably prove to be for me personally. Why the hell don't they just do UBI?
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hemale in pain posted:there's some dude walking around with a plague mask on behind the news reporter  Had to screencap that as soon as he wandered in. I wonder just how far through Leicester Square he walked with that on.
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Goldskull posted:Oh They said something about extra money in a housing allowance (up to 30% the average market price or something?) but otherwise just UBI
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Bardeh posted:Why the hell don't they just do UBI? That'd be socialism. 
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Mar 20, 2020 18:53
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lol @ "we remember the lessons of 2008" while standing next to the goldman sachs treasrer printing money from the goldman sachs bank of england director
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large_gourd posted:i'm seeing that universal credit is going to rise by £1000 for 12 months - making it £1317 a month for people over 25. Lol if this happens this pandemic couldn't have worked out better for me tbh, assuming I don't die
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Bardeh posted:Meanwhile, my mum, a self-employed Podiatrist earning probably close to £80k, can apply for UC and get £94 a week or whatever it is am i missing something? because UBI is basically what they are doing. universal credit is going to be £1317 a month. edit: nope, misread. they're not doing this. large_gourd fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Mar 20, 2020 18:55
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OwlFancier posted:I really do wonder what long term damage this is going to do to the neolib project. thats why we have the sachs men in charge, to ensure as little lasting economic good comes out of this as possible
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Mar 20, 2020 18:55
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How is Doom £55 on the PS4 website this is price gouging bullshit.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:55
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large_gourd posted:am i missing something? because UBI is basically what they are doing. universal credit is going to be £1317 a month. Yep, I just saw that. Holy moly this is pretty loving huge, it's going to be really difficult for them to cut benefits all the way back once this is over.
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hemale in pain posted:there's some dude walking around with a plague mask on behind the news reporter If I had one of those you bet I'd wear it at any opportunity. It's going to be telling when down the line the right tries to argue that actually we can't keep these measures because socialism... only works in a crisis? Like how good is capitalism then if it can only handle everything working fine (It can't even do that much but) and it sets up all kinds of catastrophes that make handling the next crisis, whether caused by capitalism or not, much harder.
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