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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1241706514940919808

leading the charge with some timely advice delivered an hour ago


e- dog n birb

baka kaba fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Mar 22, 2020

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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Backsides everywhere, blasted to gently caress.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/JamesTCobbler/status/1241693538523496448

And again it appears I have pretty good not-a-twat radar because I've used Timsons a fair bit.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
can't remember if it was here where I read about the old lady saying that if we change our habits it's letting the virus win, but there's video

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattzarb/status/1241006547905458177

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

We will not negotiate with viruses.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




XMNN posted:

can't remember if it was here where I read about the old lady saying that if we change our habits it's letting the virus win, but there's video

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattzarb/status/1241006547905458177

:rip: that lady

moostaffa
Apr 2, 2008

People always ask me about Toad, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Toad. I do very well with Toad. I love Toad. No one loves Toad more than me, BELIEVE ME. Toad loves me. I have the best Toad.
https://twitter.com/LeadingEwe/status/1241710576474226689
https://twitter.com/_hanimustafa/status/1241717064286580738

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


I really want to get to Tesco to hoard junk food (could really go for some Pretzels)but can't be arsed dealing with crowds.

Roller Coast Guard
Aug 27, 2006

With this magnificent aircraft,
and my magnificent facial hair,
the British Empire will never fall!


Jose posted:

Lol the ft chart talks racistly about Japan naturally self isolating and wearing masks when out and about as a reason for their low numbers but 50k people queued to see the Olympic torch. They're just not testing people.

Japan going to extreme methods to defuse their demographic timebomb.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Roller Coast Guard posted:

Japan going to extreme methods to defuse their demographic timebomb.

I'm absolutely certain there are multiple graphs about this in documents in front of the leaders of every country in the developed world. "Let's kill all the boomers and disabled people" solves - well, defers for a couple of election cycles - a *lot* of problems in late-stage capitalism.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm absolutely certain there are multiple graphs about this in documents in front of the leaders of every country in the developed world. "Let's kill all the boomers and disabled people" solves - well, defers for a couple of election cycles - a *lot* of problems in late-stage capitalism.

I keep saying it but it's weird that the only people who still believe in capitalism are being slaughtered to save capitalism.

https://twitter.com/markaustintv/status/1241459316302979077

"Lets go back to 2012" is the only Centrist policy.

Deketh
Feb 26, 2006
That's a nice fucking fish

OwlFancier posted:

Stop reading about it (and, I would suggest, people maybe stop crossposting scaremongering from the coronavirus thread here, you can go over there if you want to wank yourself into an coma about it) and just do something fun that doesn't involve politics/social media.

For example I decided to reinstall battle for middle earth 2 because it's abandoned and you can download it but there's some mega mods for it and BFME2 is a loving gold RTS anyway.

Man going bowling for orcs with Rohan cavalry in the first game was just tremendous fun.

Does anyone know when the supermarkets are releasing new delivery slots? I'm asking for mum, she's getting very stressed out as she's quite vulnerable and doesn't want to go out for shopping. She's too far away for me to reliably help.
I'm still going shopping cos I'm not at risk (relatively speaking) and I don't want to add to the delivery burden, but trying to keep it at once a week now.

Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

Yesterday my Facebook and Twitter feeds were filled with the Stay Home, Save Lives message being shared. Today they're full of everyone going to visit their mams. :eng99:

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Deketh posted:

Man going bowling for orcs with Rohan cavalry in the first game was just tremendous fun.

Does anyone know when the supermarkets are releasing new delivery slots? I'm asking for mum, she's getting very stressed out as she's quite vulnerable and doesn't want to go out for shopping. She's too far away for me to reliably help.
I'm still going shopping cos I'm not at risk (relatively speaking) and I don't want to add to the delivery burden, but trying to keep it at once a week now.

To be honest, you're probably better off getting on facebook, finding groups local to your mum who are organising volunteers and asking someone for help. (Our local groups have had requests from people in your situation - miles away from an elderly relative who needs shopping or dog walking or whatever).
Learnin' Curve posted a couple of days ago that Morrisons and another one are opening 21 day ahead schedules at midnight on their text-websites.
I know all our local deliveries are fully booked 3 weeks ahead (also people who have managed to get deliveries are reporting a lot of stuff missing from the orders as unavailable).

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

forkboy84 posted:

I really want to get to Tesco to hoard junk food (could really go for some Pretzels)but can't be arsed dealing with crowds.

I just went and got some crisps and dips from the Tesco express next to mine lol

Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

Jose did you fit the bidet yet?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/LabourSocialism/status/1241703060344385536

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:

Yesterday my Facebook and Twitter feeds were filled with the Stay Home, Save Lives message being shared. Today they're full of everyone going to visit their mams. :eng99:

mine is full of petitions to get the government to keep paying [insert group here] during the crisis

guess they didn't get the memo from Brexit that petitions achieve precisely gently caress and all

Deketh
Feb 26, 2006
That's a nice fucking fish

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

To be honest, you're probably better off getting on facebook, finding groups local to your mum who are organising volunteers and asking someone for help. (Our local groups have had requests from people in your situation - miles away from an elderly relative who needs shopping or dog walking or whatever).
Learnin' Curve posted a couple of days ago that Morrisons and another one are opening 21 day ahead schedules at midnight on their text-websites.
I know all our local deliveries are fully booked 3 weeks ahead (also people who have managed to get deliveries are reporting a lot of stuff missing from the orders as unavailable).

Thanks for the advice mate, I'll see if I can find anything on FB

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Gonzo McFee posted:

I keep saying it but it's weird that the only people who still believe in capitalism are being slaughtered to save capitalism.

https://twitter.com/markaustintv/status/1241459316302979077

"Lets go back to 2012" is the only Centrist policy.

nah, it seems like ‘bankrupt the BBC’ is also on this guy’s list

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Have we considered that all the olds dying of a preventable disease due to their own hubris may in fact be the change that britain not only needs, but the one it frankly, deserves?

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



the scotland daily update just finished and a nugget of info came out:

so friday morning it became clear to the modellers that the r0 wasn't 2-3 here, it was at least 4-6 - so doubling time was double was everyone was working with (and more than all current academic papers suggest - but r0 is cultural)
and best care scenario for scotland is fatality rate of 1% presuming medical care can be provided

they better do an actual lockdown as soon as possible, all ferry services have been told to throw out non-essential passengers to try and reduce spread to the islands

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Dear BBC , these are desperate times . The nation needs a lift.
Please replay the sounds of Doodlebugs flying over ahead, far away explosions, and muffled 'Roll out the barrel'
Blitz music as if its coming from the underground.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:

Jose did you fit the bidet yet?

No I need a new toilet seat first

For people who want to do some cardio inside so long as you have stairs you can just walk up and down them repeatedly. It's boring sure but you'll get a good cardio workout from it

Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

Oh yeah you did say that earlier in the thread. Sorry. :/

Passing the time doing goblet squats with a bag of flour. Not fun but when you have an opportunity to get prison ripped without the prisony bit, might as well do it.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Julio Cruz posted:

mine is full of petitions to get the government to keep paying [insert group here] during the crisis

guess they didn't get the memo from Brexit that petitions achieve precisely gently caress and all

Unfortunately we're in a bit of a hosed situation about organising because rallies, protests and any people based tactics are impossible to hold safely at this time so we're stuck on tactics like social shaming through petitions and bad reviews on websites or legal challenges if possible. Ideally the key workers will be able to organise and get protections through wildcat strike threats but that's naturally quite hard to get at this point and if you aren't in one industry or a full time organiser then social media stuff is what we're stuck at.

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

Jose posted:

No I need a new toilet seat first

For people who want to do some cardio inside so long as you have stairs you can just walk up and down them repeatedly. It's boring sure but you'll get a good cardio workout from it

Speaking of lockdown exercise.



A french guy ran a marathon on his 7mtr balcony.

moostaffa
Apr 2, 2008

People always ask me about Toad, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Toad. I do very well with Toad. I love Toad. No one loves Toad more than me, BELIEVE ME. Toad loves me. I have the best Toad.
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1241730634109894656

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
My opinion on Alex Jones: He would have been a fantastic pro wrestler. He has big entertaining heel energy.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Just saw that Twitter thread saying "supermarket shelves may be empty for more complex reasons than people being an unstoppable selfish horde", and loving* the several replies posting pictures of empty supermarket shelves going "but look at these empty shelves!!!"

*loving that I only go on Twitter via this thread

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Drone_Fragger posted:

Have we considered that all the olds dying of a preventable disease due to their own hubris may in fact be the change that britain not only needs, but the one it frankly, deserves?

No. Because it's not what anyone deserves and it will always have blow back that harms others. If it were purely with people worth over a billion pounds dying then maybe. But until just owning a private island causes the spread of an infectious disease I don't think we are there yet.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Gonzo McFee posted:

I keep saying it but it's weird that the only people who still believe in capitalism are being slaughtered to save capitalism.
And they think that the government is doing great.

Gonzo McFee posted:

"Lets go back to 2012" is the only Centrist policy.
At least the pubs were open.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


ThomasPaine posted:

Even the worst case predictions assuming no intervention at all showed cases peaking late May/June and then beginning to drop off, mostly subsiding by September or so

E: lots dead in that time though, oh yes

I know this was 2 pages back but I want to address it -


If we sit back, assuming everything's fine, and let the virus run rampant through the population, then yes it could start to drop off from it's peak around June, clearing off likely around September.

Problem with that being that, that's the "let everyone who could die, die" line.


The intention of social distancing and lockdowns etc is to cut the rate of spread to give the health system more time to cope.
By very design of the measures, the slower you want it to go, the longer the lockdowns etc need to go on.

For that strategy to work, you're looking at something closer to a "peak" spread over most of August-ish, with the actual real decline happening by the end of the year

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Bobstar posted:

Just saw that Twitter thread saying "supermarket shelves may be empty for more complex reasons than people being an unstoppable selfish horde", and loving* the several replies posting pictures of empty supermarket shelves going "but look at these empty shelves!!!"

*loving that I only go on Twitter via this thread

If they're spooked by the sight of empty shelves then i should rather fancy that they'll have a very bad time if they go to B&Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dadjoke:

(aforementioned shelves in B&Q being DIY shelving that, generally being sold flatpacked to be erected in the home, are technically empty of contents) :dadjoke:

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Her Majesty's Government, three weeks ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO_yg

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

crispix posted:

If they're spooked by the sight of empty shelves then i should rather fancy that they'll have a very bad time if they go to B&Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dadjoke:

(aforementioned shelves in B&Q being DIY shelving that, generally being sold flatpacked to be erected in the home, are technically empty of contents) :dadjoke:

:v:

I was going to get some bits to do DIY but now I'm too worried about money.

Speaking of, for the after times, can anyone recommend a small tree-like plant that we can put in a pot outside, that isn't too easy to kill?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

they better do an actual lockdown as soon as possible, all ferry services have been told to throw out non-essential passengers to try and reduce spread to the islands

But what if they can't swim

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

mehall posted:

If we sit back, assuming everything's fine, and let the virus run rampant through the population, then yes it could start to drop off from it's peak around June, clearing off likely around September.

Problem with that being that, that's the "let everyone who could die, die" line.

I wouldn't be massively surprised if this was part of the motivation behind the government's shithouse approach

- say everything's fine and we don't need to do anything at all yet, following the science!
- suggest people stay home in specific circumstances
- start halfheartedly encouraging everyone to avoid social gatherings and places, while refusing to call out the people who actively ignore it, including your own dad
- say things like "hope I get to see my mum on Mother's Day!!" and then pretend you meant video chat
- eventually start closing things down after going "we're absolutely not going to be doing that" a day or two earlier
- do everything at the last moment like you have no plan because you're not taking it seriously
- say "it'll all be over in 12 weeks and the NHS is fantastic and has everything it needs"

like the whole thing has been to play it down from the beginning, then drag their feet on shifting that policy and narrative, and barely even sound like they're taking it seriously. It puts it in people's heads that it's not really a big deal, that everyone's overreacting, might as well go see mum or enjoy the nice weather. Spreads around a bit more (get dat herd immunity) and the government gets to go oh no, we said not to do this, can't believe this has happened, people have ignored our advice somehow. "Flatten the curve" can also mean getting some cases in early, not just pushing it all into the future

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Not often that I agree with Andrew Neil but he's dead right here:

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1241329181331513345

I loved it when the Chancellor said the other day that they had no power to stop companies paying dividends with taxpayer's money, when he just has to make them sign a loan agreement saying "should the company pay or make an accrual for a dividend at any time while this loan is outstanding, the amount shall become immediately due" or something along those lines.

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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Bobstar posted:

:v:

I was going to get some bits to do DIY but now I'm too worried about money.

Speaking of, for the after times, can anyone recommend a small tree-like plant that we can put in a pot outside, that isn't too easy to kill?

Place I live in has a little gardenlet - a triangle of ground by the driveway with pebbles on and a huge big knacker of a conifer. When I moved here I gave it a flat top cut so I can just about keep it trimmed. I looked on google street view at this place 12 years ago and it was one of those little mini conifers they sell outside greengrocers and that. You can put them in pots and they're very hardy but definitely keep it trimmed if you put it in the ground

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