Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed. |
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R. Allin-Khan | 6 | 1.60% | |
R. Burgon | 80 | 21.33% | |
D. Butler | 72 | 19.20% | |
A. Rayner | 35 | 9.33% | |
I. Murray | 5 | 1.33% | |
P. Flaps | 177 | 47.20% | |
Total: | 375 votes |
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Pesky Splinter posted:Yeah, it's so vague as to be meaningless. My mate's boss is already telling him he'll need to go in to work and has sent him a letter to show police to prove he's a key worker. This essential key work? Facilities at an office that has been closed for a week already.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:50 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 11:36 |
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Jollity Farm posted:Will have to check to see how many days of Fluoxetine I have left. there is no way you will not be allowed out to get medicine. You should be ok.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:51 |
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I give it a week before they realise this is meaningless. People will take this as a challenge or find every exception/loophole they can muster.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:52 |
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Angepain posted:there is no way you will not be allowed out to get medicine. You should be ok. Getting medicine is a specific exception, yes.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:52 |
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What was that then? I'm allowed to go go to work but only if there's no more than 1 other person there?
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:53 |
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Is public transport considered essential?
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:53 |
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I don't normally go for a walk but now it's a government entitlement I somehow feel obliged to.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:53 |
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I'm really hoping for some clarification on the travelling to work bit of this. I'm half convinced that my boss is going to favour the looser interpretation of this.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:53 |
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was planning on doing my weekly venture out into the world for shopping tomorrow but i have the feeling that the few left who are surprised by this will be panic buying to kingdom come. maybe thursday
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:54 |
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stev posted:I give it a week before they realise this is meaningless. People will take this as a challenge or find every exception/loophole they can muster. That's... probably fine? Like as long as the majority of people obey this it will probably be enough to flatten the curve. We're not trying to completely stop the virus in two weeks, just keep the number of cases at least within touching distance of the ability of the NHS to cope.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:54 |
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Gwaint posted:poo poo. Seriouspost: just do it. Odds are good you won't even see a police, because we don't have any, and even if you do, these instructions aren't any clearer to them than they are for us. Who exactly are they supposed to be stopping? And from doing what? How do they tell without stopping everyone?
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:54 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That's... probably fine? Like as long as the majority of people obey this it will probably be enough to flatten the curve. We're not trying to completely stop the virus in two weeks, just keep the number of cases at least within touching distance of the ability of the NHS to cope. Of course not, don't be daft. It's three weeks.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:55 |
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Non essential deliveries replaced with an ad hoc distributed exercise network of joggers and cyclists gradually relaying goods across the nation. Thankfully I have my deliveroo outfit I signed up for and never used. Basically a free pass
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:55 |
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Azza Bamboo posted:I don't normally go for a walk but now it's a government entitlement I somehow feel obliged to. Agreed. Well, this was necessary and overdue honestly. But yeah, so vague as to be unenforceable. Not that it really needs enforcement, the idea is to get the 90% of people who aren't dickheads to think more than anything.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:56 |
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Angepain posted:was planning on doing my weekly venture out into the world for shopping tomorrow but i have the feeling that the few left who are surprised by this will be panic buying to kingdom come. maybe thursday Yeah, I was going to try and pick a carton of eggs up tomorrow. Oh well.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:56 |
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Jollity Farm posted:Will have to check to see how many days of Fluoxetine I have left.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:56 |
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Angepain posted:was planning on doing my weekly venture out into the world for shopping tomorrow but i have the feeling that the few left who are surprised by this will be panic buying to kingdom come. maybe thursday I was going to say exactly this, except Thursday is probably the time that people with kids are going to start getting antsy and deciding to make a run to the shops. If it's a relatively big shop, Google Maps is your friend here - look it up and it'll give you an approximation of how busy the shop is.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:56 |
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"It will be banned to shop for anything beyond essentials" So does this mean supermarkets will be stopping selling things that aren't essentials? And what the gently caress is 'essential'? Can I buy crisps? Booze? Top up my power meter at a newsagent?
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:57 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Non essential deliveries replaced with an ad hoc distributed exercise network of joggers and cyclists gradually relaying goods across the nation. I have enough spare plywood kicking about to put a plausible-looking pizza box on the back of my bike. You don't see *many* takeaways delivered on a Ducati Monster but needs must.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:58 |
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Danger - Octopus! posted:"It will be banned to shop for anything beyond essentials" Pretty much by definition it's "things sold in the shops allowed to stay open", nobody's going to be checking receipts.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:58 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:My mate's boss is already telling him he'll need to go in to work and has sent him a letter to show police to prove he's a key worker. This essential key work? Facilities at an office that has been closed for a week already. My place manufactures non-essential plastics, and really should have shut down operations a week ago, but the ballache is this announcement has come just as I'm going to start nights, so me and my coworkers have no loving clue and won't find out what is happening for the forseeable future until the day shift come in. And I'm due to start in like an hour.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:59 |
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Danger - Octopus! posted:"It will be banned to shop for anything beyond essentials" Well, it wouldn't be a totally bad thing for supermarkets to stop stocking unnecessary stuff (i.e. any product that I personally don't eat or don't use).
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:00 |
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Is this functionally different / more loophole-ridden than what Italy did? I imagine there will be fairly short shrift given to anybody taking the piss even a little bit
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:01 |
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RockyB posted:Agreed. Well, this was necessary and overdue honestly. But yeah, so vague as to be unenforceable. 90% of people will justify doing whatever they want to do under the list of exceptions provided. You see it even on these forums where people have been constantly revealing that they've popped down the shops for a handful of things, but it's fine because they're concerned about how crazy other people are acting. A walk around town is exercise, my boss said my job is essential, my household includes the guest wing and servants quarters etc.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:01 |
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TACD posted:Is this functionally different / more loophole-ridden than what Italy did? I imagine there will be fairly short shrift given to anybody taking the piss even a little bit It's basically exactly what Italy did, with the addition of the German "no groups of more than two people". Hmm, combining Italian and German ideas, I feel like this has been tried before...
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:02 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Pretty much by definition it's "things sold in the shops allowed to stay open", nobody's going to be checking receipts. I can't remember which country but I know at least one of them is roping off aisles of non-essential goods in otherwise open supermarkets.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:02 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:All citizens must shred on a JCM900? You will get the purists riled up with that extra gain stage.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:02 |
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Pistol_Pete posted:Well, it wouldn't be a totally bad thing for supermarkets to stop stocking unnecessary stuff (i.e. any product that I personally don't eat or don't use). if I see the shops selling any flavours of monster munch except Flamin' Hot and Pickled Onion i'm going to chastise them for undermining the war effort
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:02 |
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It'll be interesting to see what dynamics this adds to shopping. Like are we going to see another sudden spike in "essential" grocery shopping tomorrow (or right now) that clean the supermarkets out? If the shops don't restock quick enough will that not just repeat day after day?
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:03 |
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Wonder are we supposed to write little notes like Italy to tell the police where we're going
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:04 |
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Kin posted:It'll be interesting to see what dynamics this adds to shopping. Shops will be manic tomorrow, yeah
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:05 |
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Pistol_Pete posted:Well, it wouldn't be a totally bad thing for supermarkets to stop stocking unnecessary stuff (i.e. any product that I personally don't eat or don't use). Agreed. Who needs salads, condoms and hygiene products.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:06 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T72TopWbXJg
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:06 |
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Angepain posted:was planning on doing my weekly venture out into the world for shopping tomorrow but i have the feeling that the few left who are surprised by this will be panic buying to kingdom come. maybe thursday Try "already". My sister is on the phone from London, and in her area at least every supermarket is still being picked clean as soon as the deliveries come in. Unless the government sort out food shipments and set armed guards at every shop to prevent hoard buying, the capital is 24 hours away from ripping itself to pieces.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:07 |
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Fumble posted:You will get the purists riled up with that extra gain stage. I play with a Boss DS-2 through a PA amp, gently caress purists.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:07 |
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Kin posted:It'll be interesting to see what dynamics this adds to shopping. nah, everyone will be expecting everyone to panic buy on tuesday, so noone will bother and they'll wait until wednesday to panic buy. but then people will catch onto that and panic buy on the thursday instead. but then if I've figured that out it must mean anyone else could and will do the same, so it's best to do the panic buying on the friday. But then...
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:07 |
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Chuka Umana posted:Boris is shook He looked poo poo scared
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:07 |
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I doubt we have enough cops to go full on with the enforcement.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:08 |
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Even though online shops seem to be remaining open I feel like it’d be bad of me to order too much stuff - wanted to get some home exercise gear but maybe I’ll have to make do.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 22:08 |
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Chuka Umana posted:Only work that should be permitted is essential services. Until the government call for a rent/mortgage freeze people need to get paid. Until the government gives out food for free in Vietnam people will need to get paid. That's the reality of capitalism. Until the government force insurers to actually payout on their policies then people will keep their businesses open. Also you're loving stupid if you think people shouldn't be allowed out for a walk/run/cycle. A) It's really good for our mental health. B) It's also good for our physical health. Which is important at a time like this. It's entirely possible to go for a wander while not being a loving eejit. I'm lucky, I live in a small village, I have a garden I can sit out in and read, wander around (not a huge space but better than nothing) while taking in fresh air. People in the cities probably don't. Boris is getting enough poo poo advice, glad he's not listening to yours. Really regretting not buying that GYBE vinyl when I was in HMV last week. Oh well, it'll still be there when this is over. Unless HMV goes out of business.
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