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Because i've gone down a rabbit hole of paranoia, I took my blood pressure today twice just to try and make sure the co-morbidities didn't exist and that my chance of dying (0.2% was less than my chance of dying over the next 5 years naturally anyway 0.3?%) My blood pressure registed 159/82 the first time and I almost cried, and then two hours later I did it again and it registered 124/79, so I don't really know anything other than this month is sending me loving mad. 263 AD: Lots of stuff happened in China in the Three Kingdoms war. Don't think any of it involved a virus. Weasling Weasel fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Mar 29, 2020 |
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If you're nervous about your blood pressure your blood pressure will make you nervous.
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Mar 29, 2020 19:07
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OwlFancier posted:If you're nervous about your blood pressure your blood pressure will make you nervous.
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Mar 29, 2020 19:09
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OwlFancier posted:If you're nervous about your blood pressure your blood pressure will make you nervous. This is very true. Getting my BP taken for my aviation medical, I'm always on the high side, but if I'm getting it taken as part of a regular checkup it's normal.
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Apraxin posted:Meanwhile, as the pandemic ravages America with increasing ferocity, the president reassures a frightened nation: this... this might be his best work yet
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Mar 29, 2020 19:19
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Weasling Weasel posted:Because i've gone down a rabbit hole of paranoia, I took my blood pressure today twice just to try and make sure the co-morbidities didn't exist and that my chance of dying (0.2% was less than my chance of dying over the next 5 years naturally anyway 0.3?%) My blood pressure registed 159/82 the first time and I almost cried, and then two hours later I did it again and it registered 124/79, so I don't really know anything other than this month is sending me loving mad. If you're using one of those wrist ones, be sure to have your arm at exactly the same position each time. I had one of those once, cost me £50 about 15 years ago. Move my arm a mm up or down and my blood pressure changed like yours. I took it back, useless. A local pharmacy when I lived in London had one of those arm squeezing ones which I think are more reliable but nothing like that round here.
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Mar 29, 2020 19:28
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I thought they were little ghost faces before I started reading
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crispix posted:I thought they were little ghost faces before I started reading It's the Monster Munch debate all over again. These are the correct ones by the way 
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Mar 29, 2020 19:38
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Guavanaut posted:... You could still kill people with it though, presumably, which I'd say is a bad thing even if you can't do a spree shooting easily (at least without several guns on hand, anyway). If anything I'd blame manufacturers who skirt too close to the legal limit, if they made rifles capable of 12J at most then it wouldn't be an issue. I imagine you could raise the limit but then they'd probably all just move to the higher threshold. I guess you could do two tiers where it's not legal to sell but it is still legal to own.
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Weird, another impossible thing has suddenly become possiblequote:In the UK, Stuart, a street outreach worker from Brighton, says his job has changed dramatically since the coronavirus outbreak as every homeless person has to be indoors by this weekend. Naturally the government are going about it in the shittest way possible quote:but it is frustrating because the government has not allowed local authorities to requisition buildings from private owners. That would be easier and quicker.
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Mar 29, 2020 19:58
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Private Speech posted:You could still kill people with it though, presumably, which I'd say is a bad thing even if you can't do a spree shooting easily (at least without several guns on hand, anyway). The reason you don't get mass crossbow shootings is because someone would twat them in the 15 seconds it takes them to reload, and the reason you don't get lots of individual crossbow murders is because thankfully not that many people want to go around murdering people (and also they're kinda clunky). Same goes with air weapons, if you had one that could kill people you'd have to keep stopping to pump it up, and if you had one that could do a lot of shots it wouldn't be easy to kill people. The big problem that you have with air rifles is that the ones below a number are treated like toys because there's no permit attached to them, and the ones above that are treated like firearms with all the certification and stuff. So you get a bunch of twats who think it's acceptable to pelt cats with the low power ones, or who end up causing a serious accident titting about, and people (usually kids) have ended up dead from that. I think making a permit that's not quite as stringent as the shotgun certificate but that covers small air rifles and a bunch of larger ones that are currently on the FAC would send the message that "these are not toys, do not buy them for your kids to use unsupervised" well, while getting rid of the worry that you're owning something that might arbitrarily be decided is a firearm later.
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sassassin posted:The time to act was when Italy moved from a regional red zone to national lockdown, prove me wrong. it was when dean koontz wrote the eyes of darkness
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Problem I see there is that it’s not actually that hard to get a shotgun licence, you just need a lockable cabinet and a clean record and once the air rifle people realise that it’s the same checks then they will go for the big gun licence.
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Lol https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...ingawful.com%2F
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https://twitter.com/swpolice/status/1244224030644883456?s=20
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-52067211 apparently telling poshos who are treating this as a holiday is a "hate crime" loving  nothing says "vigilante" "attacks" like, erm, leaving someone a note 
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Thread - scoop on Starmer's proposed aides and abetts. https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1244182535241977856?s=20
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Julio Cruz posted:nothing says "vigilante" "attacks" like, erm, leaving someone a note to... tell them to heed the government's advice 
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Julio Cruz posted:apparently telling poshos who are treating this as a holiday is a "hate crime"
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OddObserver posted:If you thought US handling was bad: In the Arab Spring, protests over food prices and unemployment escalated into about half a dozen insurrections and a brace of long running civil wars which caused a refugee crisis that was exploited by opportunistic politicians who jeopardised the stability of an entire continent. I'd expect heads will roll in quite a few countries as a result of the incompetent handling of this epidemic, but there could be a much longer tail. The Arab Spring experience might also explain why government responses to the next looming economic crisis are so much more focused on interventions at citizen level. 2010 government: Your employer is going out of business? gently caress them. And gently caress you too. 2020 government: Your employer is going out of business? How about you all just sort of "look busy", and we'll pay all the bills as long as you don't Gadaffi us.
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Mar 29, 2020 20:42
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Mar 29, 2020 20:51
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DesperateDan posted:It was found near a badger/fox set (they share) and I'm assuming they unearthed it a few years back going by the moss growth Pages back. That's almost certainly one of the many, many types of Victorian field drain (PDF) though it could possibly be Roman. If you contact your county archaeologist, send them the pictures and tell them where you found it they should be able to tell you which and if anything is already recorded there (or add a dot on the regional record if there isn't).
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Guavanaut posted:
This is a can of worms the police really don't want to open. They already struggle keeping up with firearm and shotgun certificates, so having to process an airgun license similar to Scotland's would be a massive headache. Nobody has any idea how many air rifles and pistols there are in England and Wales, as domestic sales have only been registered quite recently, and may be resold privately or bought online from European shops with no records. In Scotland, a significant yet unknown number of owners simply didn't bother to register. Julio Cruz posted:
I'm surprised that I haven't seen any arson attacks here yet. There was a bit of a history of torching holiday homes in the late 80s, and the sentiment locally is strong enough that it's only a matter of time until people take up their old hobby. Soylent Yellow fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Mar 29, 2020 |
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The problem with Scotland's is that it just imposed a licence onto existing licence free air guns, attracting the usual "government overreach/waste of money/but i'm responsible" comments and lack of compliance, which doesn't really surprise me. If you dropped the hard 12 ft-lb limit and made it a proper permit, but including all pressurized air arms, knowing the usual air gun types they'd leap at that, because hell yeah bigger guns. And then 95% of them wouldn't even bother actually buying an FAC air rifle, because most of them are loving expensive. It's not really going to do much about grandad's old spring gun in the shed, in the same way that shotgun certificates didn't do much about great grandad's old single barrel 10 bore, but that's the kind of thing where it'll be on generational basis as they're clearing out estates and wondering "can I really be bothered to get a permit for this or should I just sell it?"
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https://twitter.com/LloydCymru/status/1244345267668819969 Are they testing more in Wales than in England? Because uhh they're dominating the charts
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Guavanaut posted:The problem with Scotland's is that it just imposed a licence onto existing licence free air guns, attracting the usual "government overreach/waste of money/but i'm responsible" comments and lack of compliance, which doesn't really surprise me. The reason I haven't gone FAC is that it's too much hassle. I could do so and would stand a pretty good chance of getting a full certificate, but don't see any reason to jump through the various hoops. If I had to, I would, but only the more serious airgunners would. A lot would just give up or not bother registering, and it would virtually eliminate any new blood coming into the hobby.
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Answers Me posted:https://twitter.com/LloydCymru/status/1244345267668819969 Wales has a big urban/rural divide. The big clusters are all in the heavily urbanised southern and northeasten border areas, while cases are relatively light in the rest of the country.
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OwlFancier posted:Wait Aneurin Bevan is a place? It's the name of one of the Health Boards in Wales – so actually perhaps those stats aren't comparing like-for-like and the England v Wales stats are a bit of a false comparison...
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OwlFancier posted:Wait Aneurin Bevan is a place? It's the South East Wales Health authority - covers Cardiff, Newport, Monmouthshire, Torfaen plus or minus a few other bits. Also there are two big district general hospitals in the area: Royal Gwent and Neville Hall. (I don't know how that compares to the rest of Wales).
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Soylent Yellow posted:The reason I haven't gone FAC is that it's too much hassle. I could do so and would stand a pretty good chance of getting a full certificate, but don't see any reason to jump through the various hoops. If I had to, I would, but only the more serious airgunners would. A lot would just give up or not bother registering, and it would virtually eliminate any new blood coming into the hobby. FAC has all kinds of checks on background and safe storage and 'good reason' and all that, and applies to anything from a .22LR plinker to a .50BMG bench rifle, shotgun certificate is quite a bit looser but still requires inspection and professional advocacy (which in reality is more like paying your GP to sign a note but it's still a hoop). Airgun permit should be more along the lines of "you killed anyone? done any armed robberies? planning to? ok cool" and that would take a good deal of weight off of the firearms certificate inspection as FAC air rifles moved there. As you said, even the most powerful ones are less than a .22 rimfire rifle, 45 ft-lbs would be a decent FAC airgun, but the weakest common .22 (subsonic, for small vermin) is over double that, so I'm not worried about any spree killings or anything, and it sets a fair balance between keeping the ones seen as toys out of the hands of kids while providing access to the sport.
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Air rifle chat: When I was about 17, my brothers (13/14 yrs old) had air rifles. I remember one evening one of them waving one around pointing it at people saying 'it's not dangerous' and then he accidentally let it off and it shot a hole in the bathroom mirror. It would easily have taken out one of our eyes if it had gone off when he was pointing it at us. (Ed: it was the mid/late 70s I have no idea whether they were legal or not at the time!) Virus chat: Just finished watching Contagion (all 2hrs 50 mins of it) and realized half the stuff I've read online about cures, causes and so forth, and govt responses, has come straight from that film. Well I'm very glad I had BCG injection as a child about 45-50 years ago! Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Mar 29, 2020 |
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Guavanaut posted:That's why I'd keep the permit as simple as possible. This is my main concern. To put it in a rather crude fashion, I would like to see just enough of a barrier to entry to keep airguns out of the hands of the kinds of people likely to use them to go hunting the local cat population and shooting out windows. British law treats firearms as a priveledge that can be removed if abused, rather than an assumed right as in the USA, and I think an approach like this encourages responsible ownership.
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OwlFancier posted:Every time someone says "red zone" I think of tiberium. "Red zone" is what Kane calls his bedroom when he's got a girl over
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I saw this "been close to boris" graph a while back And I remember thinking "wow, imagine seeing this a few weeks ago and out of context, it'd make no sense at all". but then, I thought maybe I'd have made more sense of it a couple months back than I do now--these are some legit crazy times we live in. report from the land of keeping calm and carrying on: seems to work out for us this far, but there's absolutely no guarantee we're not actually much fuckeder up than what's immediately apparent, and we simply haven't noticed it yet. a pretty intense hit of hypomania got me off work these last couple weeks, so I've been hanging out a lot at the swimming establishment in town. i've got that place pretty much to myself Take care of yourselves
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I expect you'll all be out clapping - ahem: Why is this person wishing gonorrhea for Boris? Is covid-19 not bad enough?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I saw this "been close to boris" graph a while back Our two town pools are closed. They'd only just reopened after full disinfection and cleaning after being shut for a month because they got flooded.
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Barry Foster posted:What makes your intuition special? I used to think the brain was the most important organ until I realised who was telling me that.
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Answers Me posted:https://twitter.com/LloydCymru/status/1244345267668819969 Aneurin Bevan represent!!! Not the first time I've wished I lived somewhere else tbh. Also, even though we knew about what was happening in northern Italy we still had a northern Italian rugby team, Treviso, come over and play a match in Newport. Good job everyone.
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