Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed. |
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R. Allin-Khan | 6 | 1.60% | |
R. Burgon | 80 | 21.33% | |
D. Butler | 72 | 19.20% | |
A. Rayner | 35 | 9.33% | |
I. Murray | 5 | 1.33% | |
P. Flaps | 177 | 47.20% | |
Total: | 375 votes |
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bessantj posted:Aneurin Bevan represent!!! Not the first time I've wished I lived somewhere else tbh. Yeah, I'm in this health board area too.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:15 |
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Strawman posted:I used to think the brain was the most important organ until I realised who was telling me that. The brain is a radiator, everyone knows cognition occurs in the heart.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:16 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Yeah, I'm in this health board area too. Did you say you were in Blaina? Aneurin Bevan does have most of the population of Wales in it.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:20 |
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bessantj posted:Aneurin Bevan represent!!! Not the first time I've wished I lived somewhere else tbh. Betsi Cadwaladr crew here. Not bad here yet, but my sister works at Ysbyty Glan Clwyd, so I know things are heating up. It's not to difficult to isolate here, but we're a rural area with not a lot of resources to go around.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:21 |
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bessantj posted:Did you say you were in Blaina? Aneurin Bevan does have most of the population of Wales in it. Not now, lived there in the late 60s. I went to Blaina West Side Junior School. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Mar 29, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:The brain is a radiator, everyone knows cognition occurs in the heart.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:32 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:It's the South East Wales Health authority - covers Cardiff, Newport, Monmouthshire, Torfaen plus or minus a few other bits. Not Cardiff. Monmouth, Gwent, Torfaen, Blaenau. Also supply some services to Powys, because no bugger lives there. Although that's being scaled back at the moment.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:33 |
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OwlFancier posted:If you're nervous about your blood pressure your blood pressure will make you nervous. Having your blood pressure measured while you want it to be low, is a very strange and counterproductive experience. Best to close one's eyes and think of England.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:36 |
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I think that would raise mine.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:43 |
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have a guardian article apparently the way to reduce right wing terrorism is to just give them what they want Threat from far right may be receding since Tory election victory posted:Ex-MI5 chief says win may have made extremists feel their voices are being heard also his attempt to imply its somehow mostly an economic thing, and not e.g. mostly an "every right-wing newspaper basically being Der stürmer" thing, when they are apparently happy with the austerity party winning also also the dig at "southern liberals" for being a bit concerned that nazis are pleased with our current government
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:45 |
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Cwm Taff here - though only recently. I'm the .9 I feel like we Welsh posters could launch a coup on this thread sometimes.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:48 |
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Guavanaut posted:I think that would raise mine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOxeH_OQpFw
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 22:51 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Not now, lived there in the late 60s. Oh that's right I remember now. I thought you were in London for some reason.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 23:00 |
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bessantj posted:Oh that's right I remember now. I thought you were in London for some reason. I'd be more forthcoming about my exact location within the Aneurin Bevan Health Board area but I don't want to doxx myself any more than I have already! I visited London a couple of weeks ago for a few days and I did live in London for about 30 years.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 23:08 |
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XMNN posted:have a guardian article Does this route work for the left too? (Of course not)
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 23:13 |
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XMNN posted:have a guardian article Wait "perceived success of the violent Islamists in getting their grievances on the table" is just gonna be repeated twice without challenge? There are only two Islamist attacks that can be remotely considered to be successful, that's 9/11 and Charlie Hebdo, every single other terrorist attack has been actively counter-productive to Islamists because it gives oxygen to normal Muslims denouncing the killing and the trauma brings the local communities together, that dynamic is observable it happens consistently, the distant far-right cunts and the islamist cunts sit online trying to spin it but locally people legitimately come together. XMNN posted:also his attempt to imply its somehow mostly an economic thing, and not e.g. mostly an "every right-wing newspaper basically being Der stürmer" thing, when they are apparently happy with the austerity party winning Yeah the loving state of top-down discourse in this country. They can't acknowledge that our entire media apparatus is deeply lovely and profoundly part of the problem, and they can only talk about austerity in the past tense because otherwise it would suggest an alternative, it's all just useless poo poo.
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# ? Mar 29, 2020 23:23 |
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Vitamin P posted:Wait "perceived success of the violent Islamists in getting their grievances on the table" is just gonna be repeated twice without challenge? There are only two Islamist attacks that can be remotely considered to be successful, that's 9/11 and Charlie Hebdo, every single other terrorist attack has been actively counter-productive to Islamists because it gives oxygen to normal Muslims denouncing the killing and the trauma brings the local communities together, that dynamic is observable it happens consistently, the distant far-right cunts and the islamist cunts sit online trying to spin it but locally people legitimately come The thing about the phrase ‘perceived success’ is that if you add the footnote ‘I.e. as perceived by idiots’, it doesn’t actually change anything. A certain number of people believe something. If they are idiots, that just makes it harder to argue with them, so the belief is less likely to go away.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 00:08 |
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People on twitter getting concerned about Michael Rosen. He has the virus and until 2 days ago was posting updates on how he was feeling (not good) but nothing posted now for 2 days.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 01:02 |
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Disnesquick posted:Does this route work for the left too? I don't think there are popular hard-left organisations like the EDL in the UK. There are smaller radical groups like eg Class War or Plan C but I wouldn't call them popular; they're not out there trying to capture and mobilise disenfranchised people on a large scale like the right is. Extinction Rebellion is green, not specifically left. So who knows.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 01:26 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:People on twitter getting concerned about Michael Rosen. He has the virus and until 2 days ago was posting updates on how he was feeling (not good) but nothing posted now for 2 days. poo poo.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 01:35 |
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I was chatting to my old man earlier, turns out that on Friday he got called into the hospital to give last rites to a lady from the village I grew up in. She tested positive for Corona. Which, considering this is a village of about 5,000 people and the official death toll is 'only' ~1,300 nationwide is a little bit loving terrifying.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 01:43 |
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sticola nurgeon
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 03:24 |
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Purple Prince posted:I don't think there are popular hard-left organisations like the EDL in the UK. I'm firmly of the opinion now that electoralism will never work in the UK. It's just too tightly stitched up to keep the powerful powerful. To make any progress the left needs to get back to the direct action of the trade union movement. Hope has failed. Anger is all that's left.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 03:31 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:People on twitter getting concerned about Michael Rosen. He has the virus and until 2 days ago was posting updates on how he was feeling (not good) but nothing posted now for 2 days. I just double-checked that he's who I was thinking of, and he is, but I hadn't realized he's also the bloke what's in the meme. Not noice
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 03:54 |
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Disnesquick posted:I'm firmly of the opinion now that electoralism will never work in the UK. It's just too tightly stitched up to keep the powerful powerful. To make any progress the left needs to get back to the direct action of the trade union movement. Hope has failed. Anger is all that's left. I mean a popular vanguardist movement against capital and the class system isn't really something that's traditionally grounded in trade unions as such...
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 04:36 |
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Soylent Yellow posted:Wales has a big urban/rural divide. The big clusters are all in the heavily urbanised southern and northeasten border areas, while cases are relatively light in the rest of the country. The people I know in Wales seem to mentally divide the country into 'Cardiff' (the only place worth living in) and 'the valleys' (everywhere else).
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 06:19 |
Communist Thoughts posted:this... this might be his best work yet It’s perfect, he’s like a paperclip maximiser AI except his sole overriding drive is to assuage his ego, and he’s now turning the resources and might of the US entirely over to that goal, holding the country hostage until he gets the adoration he wants.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 06:24 |
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Beefeater1980 posted:It’s perfect, he’s like a paperclip maximiser AI except his sole overriding drive is to assuage his ego, and he’s now turning the resources and might of the US entirely over to that goal, holding the country hostage until he gets the adoration he wants. He could quite easily win that adoration by getting on a war footing and using his executive powers to mass produce supplies to help fight the virus, so clearly there's something else happening here too.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 07:29 |
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ThomasPaine posted:He could quite easily win that adoration by getting on a war footing and using his executive powers to mass produce supplies to help fight the virus, so clearly there's something else happening here too. He's a senile narcissistic moron who has never really worked in his entire life, is what's going on here. He's never received praise for an achievement because he's never achieved anything, and he's never given praise for an achievement because nobody else's achievements matter to him except insofar as they make him look good. Thus, when given unlimited power, rather than use it and earn the praise he wants, he believes that using that power is an engine fuelled by praising him. If you want it in a nutshell: he's still on the set of The Apprentice, and he just fired three states because he didn't like the governors.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 08:04 |
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Beefeater1980 posted:It’s perfect, he’s like a paperclip maximiser AI except his sole overriding drive is to assuage his ego, and he’s now turning the resources and might of the US entirely over to that goal, holding the country hostage until he gets the adoration he wants. Genuinely surprised he hasn't started ordering some old-school Pharaohnic monuments to himself be built. Maybe he assumes the adoring public will do it themselves?
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 08:10 |
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Purple Prince posted:I mean a popular vanguardist movement against capital and the class system isn't really something that's traditionally grounded in trade unions as such... Someone needs to revisit historical docu-game Kaiserreich.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 08:11 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:People on twitter getting concerned about Michael Rosen. He has the virus and until 2 days ago was posting updates on how he was feeling (not good) but nothing posted now for 2 days. Oh ffs I'd been keeping tabs on him last week but hadn't checked Twitter over the weekend to see he'd not posted. He better pull through, one of my absolute favourite humans.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 08:28 |
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Ms Adequate posted:Genuinely surprised he hasn't started ordering some old-school Pharaohnic monuments to himself be built. Maybe he assumes the adoring public will do it themselves? The Wall, but since it was his idea it was both impossible and he lacked any ability to manage the project.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 08:47 |
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If Starmer appoints that horror show of neoliberals technocrats I can’t see the value of remaining in Labour.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 08:49 |
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Pistol_Pete posted:The people I know in Wales seem to mentally divide the country into 'Cardiff' (the only place worth living in) and 'the valleys' (everywhere else). You know some fuckin weirdos then, butt. Cardiff and the valleys are the same region to the rest of Wales. The latter is practically the poor part of town.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 09:04 |
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Filboid Studge posted:If Starmer appoints that horror show of neoliberals technocrats I can’t see the value of remaining in Labour. Don't really see how it's possible to stick with the policy continuity pledges he made with that cabinet. Maybe we'll be reliant on the deputy to run interference for us in a strange reversal of the Tom Watson days! I gave him my second preference to keep out Nandy, but probably should have just withdrawn it entirely. Although I do like his decision to not go for people who've been all over the media lately - at least that should keep out the biggest wreckers, who may have been brought into Nandy's inner circle.
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 09:07 |
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Filboid Studge posted:If Starmer appoints that horror show of neoliberals technocrats I can’t see the value of remaining in Labour. Wait for them to fail and then vote for the next actual leftist candidate for leader? It's not ideal but I just don't see a new left wing party rising up and becoming viable
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 09:08 |
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Paperhouse posted:Wait for them to fail and then vote for the next actual leftist candidate for leader? I’d rather give my dues to someone doing useful community organizing than Rachel ‘the problem with the DWP is that it’s too kind’ Reeves. At that point it’s not a factional disagreement, it’s a moral disgust equivalent to what pushed me away from Labour in 2003. I don’t insist on leftist leadership. I would support a soc-dem (I did, his name is Jeremy). I will not support a neoliberal party. Filboid Studge fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Mar 30, 2020 |
# ? Mar 30, 2020 09:22 |
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How does she compare with Rachel Riley
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# ? Mar 30, 2020 09:23 |
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Marmaduke! posted:How does she compare with Rachel Riley Well, she’s not quite on the far right, she’s just that weird definition of “soft left” that includes Blue Labour, who imo are red-brownist
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