facetoucher cat posted:

https://twitter.com/MackayIM/status/1245281579129135104


I mentioned ferrets a few days ago

ricecult posted:

Been seeing lots of estimates of between 200,000 and 1 million for US deaths, but that seems low both percentage-wise and because it doesn't seem to factor in how bad-to-nonexistent our shutdowns are. Anyone have some doom prophesies I can doom out over?

Also NY hasn't been counting deaths that are happening at homes or have not been tested even if they're "probable." What are the odds of that type of thing changing as this goes on? Didn't Italy change what it counts at some point?

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Happy Noodle Boy posted:

https://twitter.com/ItsProxcey/status/1233096854180696065?s=20

fits my needs posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247478993013571585?s=20

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https://nos.nl/artikel/2329623-eerste-resultaten-over-opbouw-immuniteit-tegen-corona-komende-weken-verwacht.html

First results on building immunity to corona expected in the coming weeks

In the coming weeks we will get a first picture of the build-up of immunity against the coronavirus in the Netherlands. This is evident from conversations that NOS had with experts.

View of immunity has consequences for everyone. In his briefings to the House of Representatives, RIVM boss Jaap van Dissel says that this information helps determine how long measures should remain in force. And in Nieuwsuur, he said that about 50 to 60 percent of the population should get the virus before we reach 'group immunity': the point at which people who are immune form a protective wall around vulnerable groups.

Different types of antibodies

It is not easy to determine who is protected. "Someone who has been in contact with the virus produces antibodies," says Marion Koopmans, head of the virology department at Erasmus MC. "But there are different types of antibodies that are not all produced at the same time. And there are big differences between people."

To know whether people are really protected, Erasmus MC and RIVM do not only measure the amount of antibodies. They also investigate the effectiveness of the antibodies in cell cultures. "It shows whether antibodies can actually counteract an infection of cells. That is currently the best way to determine whether someone is immune," says Koopmans.

Four studies

There are still pressing questions about immunity itself. "We don't know yet how long the protection against the virus will last," says Fiona van der Klis. At RIVM she is conducting the so-called PIENTER research into the development of immunity. "In addition, we want to know whether certain age groups build up resistance faster."

Four studies have recently been launched to answer these and other questions. At RIVM, Rotterdam Erasmus MC, the Leiden University Medical Center and at Sanquin blood bank.

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We invited 6,000 people between the ages of 2 and 92. Healthy and vulnerable, from villages and cities.

Fiona van der Klis, principal investigator of PIENTER research at RIVM
At the beginning of May, RIVM expects to have a first idea of ​​the development of immunity in the Netherlands. "In the PIENTER study, we take a representative sample from the population," says lead researcher Van der Klis. "We invited 6,000 people between the ages of 2 and 92. Healthy and vulnerable, from villages and cities. We will be allowed to draw blood from them six times in the next year and a half. We will then check whether antibodies are present and whether these antibodies have a protective effect. "

Erasmus MC is now conducting a continuous survey of the population of Rotterdam. "If people are hospitalized for conditions other than corona and blood is taken, they can participate in our study," says Marion Koopmans. "We then determine whether these people have produced antibodies and whether they are effective." Koopmans expects the first results within a week or two to three.

The Leiden University Medical Center also conducts a survey among patients who enter the hospital for reasons other than corona. "We have now been collecting samples for about a week and a half from people who have blood samples taken," says Frits Rosendaal, professor of clinical epidemiology at LUMC. "We still have to choose a good test and I expect that we will take the first measurements within two weeks and have results a week later."

Blood bank Sanquin investigates antibodies in blood donors. "Every week, about 7000 volunteers between the ages of 18 and 79 donate blood," says spokesperson Merlijn van Hasselt. "This week we will measure antibodies in the plasma and we will do that for a week every month for as long as necessary."

Also research into commercial tests

In order to measure immunity on a large scale and cheaply, Koopmans also conducts research into commercial tests. The research in cells is expensive and time consuming. "We are looking for tests that are a good predictor of the outcome of our cell cultures," says virologist Koopmans. Her team is investigating a number of commercial tests that are on the WHO list. RIVM is also investigating the suitability of commercial tests.

The investigations find their way into policy through a few intermediate steps. "The results will be discussed in meetings of the Outbreak Management Team (OMT)," said RIVM spokesman Harald Wychgel. "The experts put all the studies side by side and advise the directors in The Hague." In the end, the ministers decide what the policy will look like and which tests we will use in the Netherlands.

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Members of a central California church found themselves locked out of the bulding after the pastor originally kept his doors open, saying the shelter-in-place orders violated his freedom to assemble. But within the past week, the landlord of the Cross Culture Christian Center in Lodi, Calif. changed the locks, so congregants couldn’t enter the building for Palm Sunday services. The landlord is Bethel Open Bible Church.

Pastor Jon Duncan had continued to hold in-person services despite the coronavirus outbreak. “We’re going to meet as often as we can meet, and we do believe that this right is protected by the 1st Amendment and should be considered essential,” Duncan said in an interview with Fox 40 last week. The San Joaquin County Health Department had ordered the church to shut down last week.

On March 25, Lodi police officers came to one of Duncan’s Wednesday services and told the pastor about county and state orders against public meetings, the LA Times reported
The church retained a lawyer from the Escondido-based National Center for Law & Policy, a conservative Christian nonprofit law center.

An attorney there told the Times he plans to send a letter Monday to Gov. Gavin Newsom and San Joaquin County officials asking that they follow the lead of other states and declare houses of worship as essential services that are exempted from stay-at-home orders.

He said he is also planning a federal civil rights lawsuit “based on the fact that the governor and the county are violating my client’s 1st Amendment rights.”
While most houses of worship are helping their congregants online or offering drive-thru confessions, there have been some churches who have been holding in-person services nationwide. Some of those pastors in Florida and Louisiana have even been arrested. 

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

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gradenko_2000 posted:

This Week In Virology talked about this, and they said that it was a very limited stidy, like two cats, and they basically shoved the virus right into their nostrils to see if it would catch, so it's not really that Guaranteed that cats and the other animals are infection vectors.

I suppose if you're positive, and you have the space, then you can try to separate yourself from your cat.


The US has a population of ~320 million.

If 40% of people get infected, that's 128 million infected.
If 2% of those 128 million infected are to die, that's 2.56 million deaths

That's the low estimate. Low containment measures means the number of infected will be higher, which means the number of deaths will also be higher even if the 2% proportion remains the same.

Of course, if the number of infected goes higher, it's also unlikely that the 2% death proportion will still apply, because more of the infected will die from lack of treatment, since a higher infected rate will cause healthcare systems to become even more overloaded.

Woodchip posted:

I’m guessing the sports commissioners meeting with rump is what’s giving us these cockamamie schemes to start baseball and hockey in isolated areas.

Tei posted:

in case this is not a joke

aids in monkeys was not a severe illness, it was bad against a human body.

coronavirus is probably light on bats

Woofer posted:

NofrikinfuN posted:

literally a tweet for every single gently caress up in his presidency

its amazing

poty posted:

https://twitter.com/BrettLoGiurato/status/1247180562806210561

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

This should be standard operating procedure

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1247501095695343621

Lawman 0 posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247501383449878529?s=20

Lawman 0 posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247501383449878529?s=20

Lawman 0 posted:

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1247501383449878529?s=20

facetoucher cat posted:

Imma hafta do my parkour at night

Lawman 0 posted:

https://twitter.com/CassidyWtv/status/1247492714066857984
https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1247502615430209541

Solarin posted:

so did milwaukee really go from 177 to 3 polling places or did I make that up. if so that sound like an extremely legitimate election taking place

Solarin posted:

so did milwaukee really go from 177 to 3 polling places or did I make that up. if so that sound like an extremely legitimate election taking place

dex_sda posted:

that's so weird tbh, the sun is a disinfectant and vit d is good for you. i guess the idea is that 10-7 people move for work and outside of those hours you are allowed to move for exercise/recreation?

dex_sda posted:

that's so weird tbh, the sun is a disinfectant and vit d is good for you. i guess the idea is that 10-7 people move for work and outside of those hours you are allowed to move for exercise/recreation?

twoday posted:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1247465389392424960?s=20

twoday posted: