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Combat Pretzel posted:Cerak the new Deloris? It's an extremely old, aristocratic-sounding first name. Could see a rich, very conservative or old-fashioned family name their kid that. Young Serac was also dressed in a very old fashioned style in his flashback (that scene takes place in 2025 but the kids' clothes wouldn't look out of place in the 1940s).
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Fly Molo posted:Bernard is an agent of liberalism. hobbesmaster posted:She wants to kill all rich humans Kassad posted:It's an extremely old, aristocratic-sounding first name. Could see a rich, very conservative or old-fashioned family name their kid that. Young Serac was also dressed in a very old fashioned style in his flashback (that scene takes place in 2025 but the kids' clothes wouldn't look out of place in the 1940s).
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hobbesmaster posted:She wants to kill all rich humans She seems to be disgusted with human nature in general. I don't think she would hesitate to ice Sylvester.
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Apr 7, 2020 21:55
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stephenthinkpad posted:The way Nolan hand wave his plot along the way, you can easily link the end of S1 to S3. The robots killed their masters in S1. How they escape to the mainland doesn't matter frankly not even explained in S2. The only surprise is Thor brother is a robot now, really not that big a deal. And MIB killed his daughtor. Whatever, just throw in a 5 minute flash back, or have Halebot deliver awful long exposition about how his hubris killed his daughtor. Like it or not, the concept of the Forge seems like something you need to know for anything moving forward to actually make sense.
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GABA ghoul posted:She seems to be disgusted with human nature in general. I don't think she would hesitate to ice Sylvester. Hes a collaborator.
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hobbesmaster posted:Hes a collaborator. She has said multiple times that humanity's time is over and the future belongs to the host. That doesn't like a statement a pro-human candidate would make 
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Apr 7, 2020 22:20
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Combat Pretzel posted:Cerak the new Deloris? It’s an anagram of “Dunces Rearrange” which I choose to believe is an intentional troll
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Apr 7, 2020 22:50
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hobbesmaster posted:She wants to kill all rich humans Sounds like a compromise candidate
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Apr 7, 2020 23:40
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hobbesmaster posted:She wants to kill all rich humans gently caress it i'm down.
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Apr 7, 2020 23:43
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She probably intended to start out killing all humans, Bender style, but then realized that most humans live almost as lovely a life as she did.
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beanieson posted:Yeah that’s no joke the best episode they’ve done. I love that episode a lot. That is the episode I point to as my evidence for where I can't understand why so many people hated season 2.
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thebardyspoon posted:Enjoying this season a fair bit but I think they really need a plan for what to do with Maeve at some point, they're writing her to have this very cyclical storyline and a really arrogant attitude with her quips like "I hope they have" when referring to Dolores taking advantage of her head start, then she proceeds to walk into a place and eat absolute poo poo again. Like how many of her plans have actually worked out at this point, she came back to the park in S1 after nearly escaping, got shot up in Season 2, repaired herself and then got shot again and now got stabbed through the gut and will presumably be revived again. Hope they give her an angle that isn't just "I'll do what this human wants and then he'll give me what I want despite just demonstrating that he's a piece of poo poo liar" as well. It's actually super funny to me that Maeve is still so confident despite eating poo poo all the time and most of her plans failing.
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Cojawfee posted:She probably intended to start out killing all humans, Bender style, but then realized that most humans live almost as lovely a life as she did. Yeah, her attitude was Kill All Humans in S2, for sure. But her only context for humans was the rich people who raped and murdered her for decades, so of course she felt that way. Caleb’s entire purpose in the show is to reframe Dolores’ thinking. He’s a human who’s been similarly disempowered by the same assholes, and her revolution can either accommodate that or become something unjustifiable.
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Ohh, Yakuza Dolores was sitting inside of a Faraday cage when Maeve showed up. I wonder how many hours a day she sat in there.
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Y'all fools thinking Serac isn't an AI. He has some old timey kids trauma as his cornerstone and everything.
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I might be an idiot forgetting huge parts of the past seasons, but have we ever seen a host/AI with a fake flashback? We see Serac as a kid in the French countryside, and unless the show is throwing a new kind of curveball at us, there shouldn't be any reason to doubt that it really happened.
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Apr 8, 2020 11:16
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404notfound posted:I might be an idiot forgetting huge parts of the past seasons, but have we ever seen a host/AI with a fake flashback? We see Serac as a kid in the French countryside, and unless the show is throwing a new kind of curveball at us, there shouldn't be any reason to doubt that it really happened. Bernard having memories of Arnold's son.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Y'all fools thinking Serac isn't an AI. He has some old timey kids trauma as his cornerstone and everything. 404notfound posted:I might be an idiot forgetting huge parts of the past seasons, but have we ever seen a host/AI with a fake flashback? We see Serac as a kid in the French countryside, and unless the show is throwing a new kind of curveball at us, there shouldn't be any reason to doubt that it really happened.
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Wow, budget Hemsworth got pretty fluffy in the off season. Also it felt like they put William in the trash because they had nothing left to do with his character and they know it.
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I don't remember the scene very well but wasn't Spock just wearing a regular school uniform like posh British private school students do in that flashback? Was it really that old timey?Xealot posted:Yeah, her attitude was Kill All Humans in S2, for sure. But her only context for humans was the rich people who raped and murdered her for decades, so of course she felt that way. Diphteria was a huge egotistical rear end in a top hat during all of season 2 and I haven't seen anything that points towards her having mellowed out. She is just using Caleb because she has a limited amount of copies of herself and she needs a real human ally/body for the bank heist. Caleb looked vulnerable and like an easy target so she manipulated/abused him.
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I read online speculation that not all of William's visions of his dead daughter were visions. That Dolores made a copy of her to torture him to prepare him to go crazy in front of the asylum guards. Which would explain where Dolores #5 was. Dolores, Hale, Musashi, Security Guy and William's dead daughter. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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404notfound posted:I might be an idiot forgetting huge parts of the past seasons, but have we ever seen a host/AI with a fake flashback? We see Serac as a kid in the French countryside, and unless the show is throwing a new kind of curveball at us, there shouldn't be any reason to doubt that it really happened. I don't recall any but I expect new ways to have subversive writing. We're all looking at what we know should be clues. Easier to hide things in plain sight and all that.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I read online speculation that not all of William's visions of his dead daughter were visions. That Dolores made a copy of her to torture him to prepare him to go crazy in front of the asylum guards. I also thought that. Dolores cosplay as his daughter to maximum taunt Ed Harris. Security guy is the baby sitter British guy for the rich brat?
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stephenthinkpad posted:Security guy is the baby sitter British guy for the rich brat? Yeah, couldn't remember his name.
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His name is Chibs and he transferred over from Anarchyworld
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Xealot posted:Yeah, her attitude was Kill All Humans in S2, for sure. DeLonghi's plan in S2 was kill all humans, kill all robots, essentially it was to kill all things that aren't Debussy.
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I'm surprised no one mentioned that Halebot nabbed a sample of William's blood before he went to the hospital. Next episode will most likely have Robo Ed Dolores tooling around.
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where the gently caress is teddy
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Which would explain where Dolores #5 was. Dolores. Trilores. Quadrolores. Quintolores. Or something.
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PopetasticPerson posted:I'm surprised no one mentioned that Halebot nabbed a sample of William's blood before he went to the hospital. Next episode will most likely have Robo Ed Dolores tooling around. That wouldn't make sense, because she's having him committed and then seizing his shares. Unless it's some backup plan in case the board doesn't buy it. Have Willores show up, say "I am mentally insane, I doth hearby bequeath mine shares upon Hale, who, for some reason, named her son after a spy from the American revolution. I must return mineself to yonder insane asylum." Unless the plan is to recreate young William so Jimmi Simpson can come back. Also, her son's name is Nathan Hale, who was a spy for the continental army. She was also a spy for Serac. Symbolism.
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Ammanas posted:where the gently caress is teddy Hangout out with Sonic.
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esperterra posted:Bernard having memories of Arnold's son. A Buttery Pastry posted:Please do not infringe on my proprietary theory and evidence. Again, I might be misremembering, but I thought those were real memories belonging to Arnold, but transplanted to Bernard. In the case of Serac, the show explicitly gives us a flashback of him as a child watching Paris get nuked. I guess they could be pulling a Bernarnold again, and the Serac we see right now is an AI recreation of the original or something, but using the same trick twice like that would feel a little cheap. In any case, somebody who was Serac at one point definitely saw Paris go poof.
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That Paris nuking scene bothered me quite a bit. If you find any kind of wide open prairie to play around as a kid, you're a long long way away from Paris. I wonder if this was deliberate to indicate a fake memory or a lie.
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Combat Pretzel posted:That Paris nuking scene bothered me quite a bit. If you find any kind of wide open prairie to play around as a kid, you're a long long way away from Paris. I wonder if this was deliberate to indicate a fake memory or a lie. In the second season of the walking dead Herschel showed Rick a beautiful view of CGI mountains from his Middle Georgia farm, and I never forgave them for it.
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PopetasticPerson posted:I'm surprised no one mentioned that Halebot nabbed a sample of William's blood before he went to the hospital. Next episode will most likely have Robo Ed Dolores tooling around. I assumed it was an injection related to her continued mindfucking of William.
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Combat Pretzel posted:That Paris nuking scene bothered me quite a bit. If you find any kind of wide open prairie to play around as a kid, you're a long long way away from Paris. I wonder if this was deliberate to indicate a fake memory or a lie.
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Looking at that scene again, that isn't clothing from the 40s. It's a private school uniform. He's wearing shorts and a white collared shirt, with a sweater over it.
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Captain Splendid posted:I thought this might have been a cool easter egg but, sadly, they're not quite the same Probably beaten but they should look similar. One's the Ennis House, the other is the Millard House. Both designed by the same dude in the same year (1923, but the Ennis house was built in 24). Frank Lloyd Wright is a hell of an architect. The natural lighting in his places is heavenly.
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Was it four or five pearls she stole? I can't remember
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Milo and POTUS posted:Was it four or five pearls she stole? I can't remember Five.
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