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Asema posted:The moment Sanders drops out suddenly you can vote in the primary through mail-in ballot. source? EDIT: Dog embodying the attitude of this thread tax 
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marshmonkey posted:That's weird, I thought bullying works? I guess if you're modeling Biden, it does. Makes sense that if you're promoting Biden, as you are, you'd want to promote bullying as well.
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OhDearGodNo posted:ITT people blaming everyone for Bernie dropping out other than the fact that people didn’t go out and vote for him. Time is flat circle that grows ever smaller. Welcome back to 2016, my friend. It missed you dearly.
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Angry_Ed posted:source? https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1247929924498923524
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I'm sorry, but Trump has broken me so loving much over these past four years that anyone else is preferable. I'm not trying to defend Biden, he's definitely a rapist, but I don't want another four years with Trump.
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Willo567 posted:I'm sorry, but Trump has broken me so loving much over these past four years that anyone else is preferable. Neither do we
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Arist posted:My primary didn't even happen yet That’s a discussion for the party to have a nationwide primary day, which is a good idea.
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Fair enough. But also Sanders hasn't dropped out. Yes I know, suspended campaign etc. but it's not the same thing.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Her second half is incredibly stupid, but she is undoubtedly correct that 90% of Sanders voters will vote for Biden for little or no issue and that a certain group was never reachable. I pretty much agree with this but that doesn't mean that the republican leaning upscale suburban voters who didn't vote for Hillary are going to vote for Biden. Republicans came home in 2016 and I'm not sure why they wouldn't do the same thing in 2020...
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Willo567 posted:I'm sorry, but Trump has broken me so loving much over these past four years that anyone else is preferable. Nobody in this thread wants Trump. But you lash attacking out at people who are in that position just makes things even worse because you just immediately dismiss all criticism and talking points instead of understanding why people are frustrated.
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I mean...this sounds pretty good? Other than maybe not being enough money?
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Asema posted:The moment Sanders drops out suddenly you can vote in the primary through mail-in ballot. They announced that they were planning on doing this on March 28th. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/york-presidential-primary-state-grapples-record-numbers-coronavirus/story?id=69807852
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mcmagic posted:I pretty much agree with this but that doesn't mean that the republican leaning upscale suburban voters who didn't vote for Hillary are going to vote for Biden. Republicans came home in 2016 and I'm not sure why they wouldn't do the same thing in 2020... Independents are just people ashamed to say they are Republicans at this point.
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I'm very curious, given how there are now multiple forecasts of a recession, 10 million+ unemployment, negative GDP growth, and a stock market that is not in touch with reality will do to the general election. e: There is no goddamn way a second stimulus gets passed
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Yuzenn posted:There is no more progressive movements in 2024, or 2028 or any other year without the SC. I don't know how more clear this can be made, the progressive movement is already near death and is absolutely dead if there is any more ground ceded. there is no reason to trust Biden to do anything to address this. the actual answer is to loving abolish the SC as its a corrupt and archaic institution. failing that pack it to the gills, which is something a full throated progressive may espouse. bernie at least entertained the idea that the court as is was bad. biden assuredly will not pack the court, and will pick centrist options that will roll over to trumps ideologues.
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The biggest thing I've noticed in the past few years is previously very comfortable white liberals suddenly feeling powerless and hopeless. They see someone in charge that very actively wants to screw them over. Guess what? If you are a minority in the US your entire life has been that way. You haven't had the luxury of purity tests for candidates because they are all poo poo. La migra didn't start rolling up on my family when Obama was elected. That poo poo has been going on since before I was born. You vote to limit the damage in the short term and work for change locally mid term. Hopefully you survive long term. That's what life is like. Welcome to the party, now shut the gently caress up and vote the fascists out of office.
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Asema posted:Independents are just people ashamed to say they are Republicans at this point. Ha I try and tell people this all the time. Saying you’re independent these days is the same as saying “I’m not racist, but...”
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No election reform?
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Arist posted:Dude, I've watched almost all of the debates. That I can't name a single substantive policy of Biden's is a loving problem. imo that's more an indictment of how awful the debates are formatted and moderated than Biden himself.
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Angry_Ed posted:Fair enough. But also Sanders hasn't dropped out. Yes I know, suspended campaign etc. but it's not the same thing. Sanders is 100% going to drop out unless Biden actually croaks. He is staying in to get leverage and be able to make demands but he will absolutely eject the moment that seriously starts the threaten to split vote. Edit: Sorry if this primary chat, I will not continue it further.
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Asema posted:Independents are just people ashamed to say they are Republicans at this point. Over hundreds of samples irl, I have never met an "independent" that wasn't right-leaning.
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lol and people still can’t pay their goddamned rent and won’t even be able to when the peanuts are flung at us in a few weeks
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Paradoxish posted:Like, I'm not going to make any predictions about how November will go. I don't know. We're living through unprecedented times right now, and the world may look very strange by the time the end of the year rolls around. I dreamed a dream of a govt that cared about shunning creeps and protecting women's rights. So different from this hell I'm living. e: tax was paid
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WoodrowSkillson posted:there is no reason to trust Biden to do anything to address this. the actual answer is to loving abolish the SC as its a corrupt and archaic institution. failing that pack it to the gills, which is something a full throated progressive may espouse. bernie at least entertained the idea that the court as is was bad. biden assuredly will not pack the court, and will pick centrist options that will roll over to trumps ideologues. Comparing your guess/prediction over the known outcome of Trump winning. Hmm.
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1247935379648413700 It's perfectly reasonable to expect Biden to not drop Bernie's policies if he expects Bernie's voters to vote for him.
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mcmagic posted:No election reform? National vote by mail is included in the draft stimulus bill they released. The first stimulus bill included $500 million to support states doing it, but didn't fully fund or require it.
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Telsa Cola posted:Sanders is 100% going to drop out unless Biden actually croaks. He is staying in to get leverage and be able to make demands but he will absolutely eject the moment that seriously starts the threaten to split vote. I mean, yeah, but my point is he's still staying in until the convention for leverage.
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Spite posted:The biggest thing I've noticed in the past few years is previously very comfortable white liberals suddenly feeling powerless and hopeless. They see someone in charge that very actively wants to screw them over. vote your family into a camp with a smile in your heart. Biden 2020
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Angry_Ed posted:I mean...this sounds pretty good? Other than maybe not being enough money? Distributed how Because Donnie Dipshit is going to grift away all money that is placed in control of the executive
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:National vote by mail is included in the draft stimulus bill they released. Good. But there is no way in a billion years that Trump will sign it.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:there is no reason to trust Biden to do anything to address this. the actual answer is to loving abolish the SC as its a corrupt and archaic institution. failing that pack it to the gills, which is something a full throated progressive may espouse. bernie at least entertained the idea that the court as is was bad. biden assuredly will not pack the court, and will pick centrist options that will roll over to trumps ideologues. Please advise of your alternative to the supreme court system, which every other western democracy has. These things are necessary for interpreting laws. Lifetime appointments in the states are loving dumb though. As mentioned earlier, Biden was essential in recommending two excellent SC picks for Obama, but is now going to pick rollover centrists for some reason. You have no loving basis for this opinion at all.
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Pick posted:I will crawl over broken glass to vote for Biden despite him being my last choice in the Dem Same, but I will not fault anyone for not doing it. But to get back on topic... WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:What is dick tales Scrooge McDuck's corporate managers are literally vultures, and he barely tolerated them  It's a good show Also Webby (the girl duck) is a weird super spy now)
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Spite posted:Welcome to the party, now shut the gently caress up and vote the [way I tell you to]. Cool, thanks.
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Asema posted:Independents are just people ashamed to say they are Republicans at this point.
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Paradoxish posted:I don't know why this is so hard to understand, but the trauma of literally being present when federal agents are trying to get into your classroom and possibly deport your friends tends to override other considerations. Likewise, I am not going to loving tell my girlfriend that she should vote for someone she sees as a rapist. I mean, I think single issue voting is a plague, so I don't really have a response to single issue voters other than they need to not do so. Like, Biden being a potential rapist is really lovely but unless you think Warren or Bernie would promise to drag him away in chains they would likely be complicit in not doing anything about it. The entire Democratic field and every Justice Dem could be dragged for not broadcasting the rape accusation in every public statement. I do not think there was a way to vote for any viable candidate at the national level that would not be a positive outcome for Biden wrt rape charges.
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Asema posted:The moment Sanders drops out suddenly you can vote in the primary through mail-in ballot. It's easier to have a ballot with no choices on it.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:there is no reason to trust Biden to do anything to address this. the actual answer is to loving abolish the SC as its a corrupt and archaic institution. failing that pack it to the gills, which is something a full throated progressive may espouse. bernie at least entertained the idea that the court as is was bad. biden assuredly will not pack the court, and will pick centrist options that will roll over to trumps ideologues. You know Trump WILL do the worst of the scenarios. There is at least a chance that Biden will do things advantageous to the causes. Whether or not he does is not something I can predict cause I'm not a time traveler, but I do know what path Trump takes us down. You aren't wrong about the SC and it needs to go, but short of that it's here and it has to be dealt with in the parameters we currently have. poo poo man maybe Biden dies in office and we get Stacy Abrams or someone as president, idk....
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