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piL posted:Cross-posting because I'm more interested in Sailor responses than genpop. Being in a politically and/or operationally difficult position is irrelevant. Higher ups operate under those conditions on a constant basis. All that matters is how you respond to them. It isn’t as if Big Navy hasn’t gleefully engaged in sham investigations before to provide window dressing for leadership who were in unwinnable positions. Especially in our current era of non-accountability for politicians, this could’ve easily been swept aside for all those involved had everyone just focused on the point that matters: the health and safety of the force. Whatever other initiatives Modly organized are irrelevant to that point. And the last thing we should be doing is praising a broken clock for being right twice a day.
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ZekeNY posted:You get some idea of the magnitude of the shitstorm when CNO posts a "message to the fleet" that very carefully says, in substance, nothing: I'm not perfect at reading the Navy/CCMD tea leaves, but the fact that "health and safety" is designated as the #1 priority is pretty significant. In my short life I've never seen a moment when the Navy actually prioritized force protection over mission execution. Already seeing some of it at the lower rungs...some "must happen" courses at Fallon are being postponed. How's mandatory masks going for everyone?
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Red Crown posted:I'm not perfect at reading the Navy/CCMD tea leaves, but the fact that "health and safety" is designated as the #1 priority is pretty significant. In my short life I've never seen a moment when the Navy actually prioritized force protection over mission execution. Already seeing some of it at the lower rungs...some "must happen" courses at Fallon are being postponed. Shits wild on the mobilized reserve front. On orders to just stay at home for 60 days phone mustering. Thank God they just didn’t leave me in Norfolk for the time. I’ve been mobilized since late December and I’ve been in class for exactly 4 weeks total with the rest just waiting to class up or stuck with travel ban.
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LingcodKilla posted:Shits wild on the mobilized reserve front. On orders to just stay at home for 60 days phone mustering. Thank God they just didn’t leave me in Norfolk for the time. I’ve been mobilized since late December and I’ve been in class for exactly 4 weeks total with the rest just waiting to class up or stuck with travel ban. I got stay home for 60 days and still get paid too. I just had to get hit on the freeway first.
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Red Crown posted:I'm not perfect at reading the Navy/CCMD tea leaves, but the fact that "health and safety" is designated as the #1 priority is pretty significant. In my short life I've never seen a moment when the Navy actually prioritized force protection over mission execution. Already seeing some of it at the lower rungs...some "must happen" courses at Fallon are being postponed. my ship is still full bore on re6 and i watched a senior chief utterly destroy a third class who didn't have a mask in front of the inspectors. we're "encouraged" not to wear medical masks because they don't want us to give off the impressions that were sick hearing rumors that a few people on my ship who were sick with symptoms were expressly told not to get tested so yes this is all fantastic
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boy are my arms tired posted:hearing rumors that a few people on my ship who were sick with symptoms were expressly told not to get tested IG and anonymous tip to your TYCOM FORCM immediately. This is not a joke post.
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Red Crown posted:I'm not perfect at reading the Navy/CCMD tea leaves, but the fact that "health and safety" is designated as the #1 priority is pretty significant. In my short life I've never seen a moment when the Navy actually prioritized force protection over mission execution. Already seeing some of it at the lower rungs...some "must happen" courses at Fallon are being postponed. All of the CSG pre-deployment exercises that my reserve unit oversees have been cancelled until November. ManMythLegend posted:IG and anonymous tip to your TYCOM FORCM immediately. Yeah. This isn't a situation where unit level leadership (below the CO level, at least) should have any room to wiggle. Any non-CO, O-5 and below telling people to ignore health and safety guidance for COVID should be reported immediately. Off ship, if necessary.
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ManMythLegend posted:IG and anonymous tip to your TYCOM FORCM immediately. i would but I'm not sure how. is there a anontip box or do i create a throwaway email? i am not exactly a fan of my ships coc but im afraid of reprisal if nothing happens
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boy are my arms tired posted:i would but I'm not sure how. is there a anontip box or do i create a throwaway email? i am not exactly a fan of my ships coc but im afraid of reprisal if nothing happens 1-855-NAVY-311 Any Navy military or civilian member may file an IG complaint. However, many Department of the Navy civilian complaints (ex: discrimination, sexual harassment, and conditions of employment) are addressed by agencies other than the IG (contact 1-855-NAVY-311 for further guidance).
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Lou Takki posted:1-855-NAVY-311 thank you
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ZekeNY posted:You get some idea of the magnitude of the shitstorm when CNO posts a "message to the fleet" that very carefully says, in substance, nothing: quote:America. Has. A. Great. Navy. He forgot to the 'clap' emoticons.
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boy are my arms tired posted:i would but I'm not sure how. is there a anontip box or do i create a throwaway email? i am not exactly a fan of my ships coc but im afraid of reprisal if nothing happens Also check out your TYCOM's site and look for contact info for Force CMC and maybe even Force Doc. If you're really worried then get a throw away Proton Mail account.
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Look, I'm going to level with you guys. A lot of the time I chuckle about you guys bitching about terrible and idiotic chains of command because I've been on the other side of those decisions and it's mostly people trying to do the right thing in bad/marginal situations. But when it comes to major and flagrant violations of health and safety standards for sailors, or blatant disregard of law, there is no wiggle room. gently caress those folks. They need to go. I don't know you or your chain of command, and so I have no idea at what level you think this pressure is coming from. If I was CO/XO you can sure as poo poo believe it wouldn't be from me and so I would want to know if one my khaki was directing it in the same way I would if I found out they were telling you to violate tag outs or whatever. If you trust your CO/XO then please bring it to their attention too. But this is too big a deal for you to have any doubt that action will be taken.
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Confirmed cases on the Nimitz as it's getting ready to put to sea. https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...ier?context=amp I'm sure they've learned their lesson! 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Confirmed cases on the Nimitz as it's getting ready to put to sea.  So glad I saved this.
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CMD598 posted:
Hahaha holy poo poo. I love it.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Confirmed cases on the Nimitz as it's getting ready to put to sea. Anyone who thinks this isn't going to flare up in spurts throughout the entire surface (and eventually, sub) fleet is delusional. CMD598 posted:
One nitpick: It would be funnier if it just said "USS NIMITZ Patches for Sale" and lets the reader read the patch. Also, I want one. >_>
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ManMythLegend posted:Look, I'm going to level with you guys. Empty quoting e: I was about to pedant, and then I erased it, and then I came back. I could have sworn there wasn't poo poo on 02 amidships. Like Safety Office was 140 ish starboard but I don't remember anything else on O-2. I'm apparently forgetting an entire level of an aircraft carrier. SquirrelyPSU fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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SquirrelyPSU posted:Empty quoting It has been 10 years since I have been on a carrier, but I seem to recall there being a barbershop and a tiny ship store on the 0-2 level? On the Lincoln at least?
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IncredibleIgloo posted:It has been 10 years since I have been on a carrier, but I seem to recall there being a barbershop and a tiny ship store on the 0-2 level? On the Lincoln at least? Port side I thought, near the paper stores and the IC Air Types.(source: Also Lincoln)
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IncredibleIgloo posted:It has been 10 years since I have been on a carrier, but I seem to recall there being a barbershop and a tiny ship store on the 0-2 level? On the Lincoln at least? Reagan had that. O2 port side aft a bit iirc. All the ships kinda blend together though. Called it 7-11 because it was open late for night shift. We did a *lot* of midnight snack runs.
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I am honestly surprised I can remember where anything other than the galley, berthing, and the plant were. It would be kind of fun to get to take a tour of the Ford class carriers I would think. But I also think I am probably fine never setting foot on a naval vessel again.
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Nick Soapdish posted:Giving me major flashbacks to carrier dudes complaining on mIRC while I was a Gator Sailor on an LHD First deployment was an LHD. LHD had racktricity and the little in rack air vent. Carrier didn't have that poo poo.
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:So... since I’ve already got a rep in this this for controversial opinions about leadership (aka omg how dare you care about peeps, how dare you intermingle between the classes, how dare you be a pleb who rose to the patrician status)... just wanna say Modley was a spineless piece of poo poo from day 1. Current acting SECNAV is a spineless piece of poo poo. Hey until we get a SECNAV that actually values their oath to support and defend they are a piece of poo poo I think your rep is more along the lines of drama Lord. CMD598 posted:
I was on the deployment where this patch was created. I even know the story behind it .. That is an actual quote from one of the Nimitz TAOs. That is the part I'm 100% sure if. The context, IIRC, was during a COMPTUEX and one of the evolutions didn't go so well. Said comment was made to one of the evaluators by said TAO. I could be completely wrong about that part though lol. I was on Flag staff at the time.
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Oh lordy. We have nothing but big deck sailors in this thread? Biggest ship I ever served on was an FFG. I’ve stepped on a (non-decommissioned) CV(N) all of once to pick up some parts for a CASREP and I had to ask three different people how to get to the loving S-3 shop. Now let me tell you about the Sweep life. 
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Laranzu posted:Reagan had that. O2 port side aft a bit iirc. All the ships kinda blend together though. Same on Ike, but I I thought it was more like 02-220 or so. I really didnt remember anything 02 midships with a -2, I thought like -6 or so. Wasnt 2-180-0 the CHENG office/pway right behind the aft messdeck?
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AlternateNu posted:Oh lordy. We have nothing but big deck sailors in this thread? A few of us have been on the small boys kids brother.
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AlternateNu posted:Oh lordy. We have nothing but big deck sailors in this thread? I was on an LPD for three years. It was nice but I just had to liaison between the landing force and the ship. Well that and I loaded and unloaded all of the equipment and Marines. I went on a minesweeper once to see what they were like. It was easy to get onboard because they never went out for more than a week at a time and just anchored off the coast of Sasebo half the time they went out. Now I never had to stand duty but I was told sweeps only have like 3 duty sections. Spending every third night on the ship seems like it'd get old if you were in port. Hekk fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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Laranzu posted:Reagan had that. O2 port side aft a bit iirc. All the ships kinda blend together though. On my flag staff tour I assigned myself the midwatch a lot so as to maximize my avoidance of flag staff bs. We (assistant IWO and myself) spent a lot of money in the 7-11. And got really loving good at bop-it. Bonus to standing this watch was saying no to people who called in the middle of the night to request permission to break whatever condition was set. The answer was always no. 😁
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LingcodKilla posted:I spent 5 nights on a USNS ship during fleet week. Tried desperately to get my boss to cross deck me to one of our USNS ships for a few days. He didn't agree with me on the necessity of teaching them about EW.
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