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Class Warcraft posted:For some reason gas is still 3.50 where I am, but I haven't had to fill up in a month so whatever. I paid $2.39 in Costa Mesa last weekend.
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CopperHound posted:Hard to say. Using terms like 'vanguard' is pretty impressive for a plant. If he's been infiltrating for a while and is serious about converting people he's probably invested some time in reading the lit, but I wouldn't rule it out for an actual leftist to be so brainbroken by electoralism that they think voting for Trump will help manipulate him into a leftist
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My roommate was commenting on falling gas prices the other day and I realized that since I switched to an EV (well, plugin hybrid) I've almost completely stopped even noticing gas prices any more. Used to be something I almost automatically soaked in while driving past stations.
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Apr 9, 2020 17:55
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CopperHound posted:Okay, maybe Bernie or Bust Chuds might be the wrong term, but what do I call these people? Chomp8645 posted:Some men just want to watch the world Bern. 
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Apr 9, 2020 18:03
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Sydin posted:My roommate was commenting on falling gas prices the other day and I realized that since I switched to an EV (well, plugin hybrid) I've almost completely stopped even noticing gas prices any more. Used to be something I almost automatically soaked in while driving past stations. Do you have a home plug or just the 12v trickle
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Apr 9, 2020 18:30
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Just the the trickle. I rent out a lovely duplex from the 50's whose wiring cannot handle adding a 240V hookup to the garage without a full panel upgrade, which is far more than my landlord or I are willing to pay for. Honestly it's fine. My work has fancy chargers at a relatively cheap $1/hour rate, so prior to all this I could drive in 1-2 times a week to fill up. Otherwise I just leave the thing plugged in overnight and it gets enough charge back for most city driving. Right now it's also moot since I'm only driving once a week at most to get groceries, and not driving very far at that. I don't think I've plugged the thing in for close to a month and it still has half a charge.
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Apr 9, 2020 18:41
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:40 miles west gas is 4.40 A hunter walks 40 miles south and sees gas for $4.00, walks 40 miles west and sees gas for $4.40, walks 40 miles north and sees gas for the same prices as when they started, then shoots a bear. How much did the bear pay for gas? WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Do you have a home plug or just the 12v trickle "12v trickle" was my nickname in college.
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CopperHound posted:Okay, maybe Bernie or Bust Chuds might be the wrong term, but what do I call these people? Why do people think voting GOP will push the dems to the left? It's not like there's enough metadata behind each ballot to determine why someone decides to vote (R) I think you nailed the terminology CopperHound
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people telling bernie voters to vote republican are republicans trying to win more votes for their side hth
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Apr 9, 2020 18:58
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CopperHound posted:Okay, maybe Bernie or Bust Chuds might be the wrong term, but what do I call these people? Besides the obvious MAGA trolls, I think a lot of it is simply that people on the left are angry and feel powerless right now, which causes people to lash out and say some pretty brokebrained things. The fact is there's not really a good option to direct your vote if you're a hardline leftist at the moment. Voting for the GOP does nothing but continue to march us to a Fascist hellscape, obviously. However the Dems have made it abundantly clear all they care about is our votes - which they feel entitled to as a matter of course for no other reason than they're "better" than the GOP - and otherwise respond to leftist policy proposals or candidates with full mask off scorn and hostility. Even if Biden or whoever the DNC gets to replace him sweeps into power with both chambers of Congress under firm D control (unlikely) they're not going to use that power to enact anything resembling socialist policy. The minor parties like the Greens are pretty much universally full of nutjobs. You can leave a bunch of boxes blank or just not turn up to vote at all I guess, but that's scarcely better than checking the box for Trump. The DNC knows they have all the leverage at the moment because non-GOP voters are scared to death of Trump, so anybody they trot out is automatically "better than Trump" simply by virtue of not being him. They also resultingly feel that they don't have to make any policy concessions to the left. For somebody who cares more about the issues than orange man bad, it's a bitter as hell pill to swallow and I'm not surprised that in the wake of Bernie dropping out these are the kind of things you're seeing.
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Shear Modulus posted:people telling bernie voters to vote republican are republicans trying to win more votes for their side drug hth
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Apr 9, 2020 19:29
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:If there's one lesson we've learned its that we can change the party from within! The mistake was thinking we could overcome that electorally without removing the weinstein/clinton cancer first.
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Apr 9, 2020 19:42
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luminalflux posted:Safeway at market/church in SF had the security guard yelling "NO REUSABLE BAGS ALLOWED INSIDE" to the line outside. Dunno if they charge at the register, I self-checked out and hit "0 bags" because if you're gonna yell at me like that i'm not even gonna bother trying. Gus's only bagging into their bags, but not charging. I have to say that any pushback against reusable grocery bags is totally unscientific. It's bizarre to me. Grocery bags sit in cupboards / backpacks / cars for days at a time, effectively becoming sterile. The clothes that everyone is wearing are far more likely to be disease vectors - not to mention the people themselves. There is no medical benefit in having non-sterile people use sterile grocery bags, particularly when those bag distribution points then become disease vectors because everyone in the store is touching them. The whole thing reeks of anti-environmental marketing by the plastic bag industry.
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Apr 9, 2020 20:07
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krysmopompas posted:The greens aren’t run by a cabal of billionaire pedophile/rapist donors and the entrenched political establishment that enables them. And then what, the cabal of billionaire pedophile/rapists and entrenched political establishment that just steamrolled Bernie’s nearly $300 million campaign give up and allow the resplendent, militant Greens free and fair elections?
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Kaal posted:I have to say that any pushback against reusable grocery bags is totally unscientific. It's bizarre to me. Grocery bags sit in cupboards / backpacks / cars for days at a time, effectively becoming sterile. The clothes that everyone is wearing are far more likely to be disease vectors - not to mention the people themselves. There is no medical benefit in having non-sterile people use sterile grocery bags, particularly when those bag distribution points then become disease vectors because everyone in the store is touching them. The whole thing reeks of anti-environmental marketing by the plastic bag industry. lol
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To be fair it is more likely the result of people who don't know what the gently caress their doing being put in a place where they need to implement public health policies. Everyone starts copying them and boom it becomes legally defensable best practice. Now don't mind me. I'm going to handle cash, touch my face, and touch all your food, but it is okay because I have gloves on.
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Apr 9, 2020 20:27
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we've been doing ineffective security theater at airports for 20 years, why not grocery stores too?
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Apr 9, 2020 20:31
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Centrist Committee posted:And then what, the cabal of billionaire pedophile/rapists and entrenched political establishment that just steamrolled Bernie’s nearly $300 million campaign give up and allow the resplendent, militant Greens free and fair elections?
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Apr 9, 2020 20:32
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krysmopompas posted:The greens aren’t run by a cabal of billionaire pedophile/rapist donors and the entrenched political establishment that enables them. lol you aren't doing poo poo until you destroy/supplant cable news
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Just lol if you think CA is doing any sort of good job with the virus. MorrisBae posted:The five states with the worst testing numbers (tests per 1 million of population):
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yeah we just ain't testing and wont until we get the supplies needed for large scale tests unless we have some natural california immunity or our crystals are keeping the wicked virus away, our number of confirmed cases is straight garbage and will remain low until they suddenly explode
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TheAgent posted:yeah we just ain't testing and wont until we get the supplies needed for large scale tests Also it’s taking 7+ days for tests to come back (if you can even get tested). Girl I work with tested negative but the guy she was sitting next to in the meeting for 2+ hours tested positive lol. They had the same symptoms and she couldn’t get re tested and work won’t cover the sick time because she didn’t test positive lol. She was out for 2+ weeks and probably ended up coming back sooner then she should have because of the negative test. I also know 3 other people that have been out waiting for results for 7+ days. It’s ridiculous.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:lol you aren't doing poo poo until you destroy/supplant cable news We still have to beat the pod save idiots, but that seems like a more realistic opponent. krysmopompas fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Apr 9, 2020 |
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MarcusSA posted:lol Yeah, petrochemical corporations would never take advantage of a pandemic to encourage the public to use their products. Oh wait they totally would: https://www.fastcompany.com/90483143/the-plastic-industry-is-using-the-coronavirus-to-fight-plastic-bag-bans https://cen.acs.org/environment/sustainability/Plastic-bag-bans-rolled-back/98/web/2020/04 https://www.plasticstoday.com/packaging/covid-19-reframes-debate-on-single-use-plastic-bags/24749037262781
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krysmopompas posted:Cable news is already dying, it’ll be about as relevant as print in a few years when we’ve rid ourselves of the last boomer. Cable news convinced the Democratic electorate that Bernie didn’t exist, China is responsible for coronavirus, the economy isn’t that bad, and it’s cool and good that Elon Musk is bravely shipping CPAP machines to the front lines. If you think cable/mainstream news is irrelevant and dying, you’ve not been paying attention to 2020.
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Kaal posted:Yeah, petrochemical corporations would never take advantage of a pandemic to encourage the public to use their products. Oh wait they totally would: Ok 🙄 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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TheAgent posted:yeah we just ain't testing and wont until we get the supplies needed for large scale tests yeah but look on the bright side: gavin is earning lots of good press as a dem governor who says he has the virus under control and is also accumulating lots of favors from dem politicians in other states by loudly shipping them token amounts of ventilators
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Centrist Committee posted:Cable news convinced the Democratic electorate that Bernie didn’t exist, China is responsible for coronavirus, the economy isn’t that bad, and it’s cool and good that Elon Musk is bravely shipping CPAP machines to the front lines. If you think cable/mainstream news is irrelevant and dying, you’ve not been paying attention to 2020.
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krysmopompas posted:The democrats aren’t in charge of the green party’s election processes. What would they do in this scenario? Collaborate with Republicans and the courts to lock them out of the electoral process; prosecute them for violating election law; black out any media coverage; jail or intimate any particularly successful organizers, especially if they’re not white; rig the elections; gerrymander away anyone who makes it into office; etc etc.
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krysmopompas posted:The democrats aren’t in charge of the green party’s election processes. What would they do in this scenario? Effortlessly make it so the green candidate doesn't get on any debate stage and gets zero coverage in the national media, treating them exactly like they've always been treated regardless of support. The only remotely relevant third party candidate in my lifetime got there because he was a billionaire who could buy enormous chunks of ad time and shovel money at the media to cover him
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Centrist Committee posted:Collaborate with Republicans and the courts to lock them out of the electoral process; prosecute them for violating election law; black out any media coverage; jail or intimate any particularly successful organizers, especially if they’re not white; rig the elections; gerrymander away anyone who makes it into office; etc etc.
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MarcusSA posted:Ok 🙄 Wow, good one
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MarcusSA posted:Ok 🙄 https://youtu.be/KqOsrniBooQ
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California actually caught up with its huge unprocessed test backlog this past weekend, unless the Chron is publishing false data. See the chart near the bottom of this page: https://projects.sfchronicle.com/2020/coronavirus-map/ which is based on this data: https://covidtracking.com/data/state/california which says "The state also reported a huge batch of negative tests 4/4." Until around this monday, we had around 100k unprocessed tests. Now that number is down to 14,600. Now I'm not totally confident in this data's accuracy, but it does seem like that cleared out the backlog. There's still nowhere near enough testing, of course. But what that really means is that to get decent comparisons, you look at how many hospitalizations and deaths are in different regions, and that lets you extrapolate implied cases on an assumed-to-be-similar ratio of hospitalizations to actual cases. And on that basis, it looks like California is doing pretty well. We have 507 confirmed deaths. There's undoubtedly unconfirmed deaths, but that's true everywhere else too. For a state of nearly 40m people, 507 deaths is... well poo poo, it's still 500 dead people, almost alll of whom died unnecessarily because our government is a collosal fuckup wreck that mismanaged this terribly, but... 500 deaths for 40m people is low, compared to the nationwide 16k deaths for ~400m people. Running at less than a third of that overall ratio. And it's probably because we locked down earlier than most other states, and the bay area did so earlier than any other state.
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Leperflesh posted:the bay area did so earlier than any other state. Getting a little Newsom in you, huh?
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Newsom is surprisingly competent. And I say this as somebody who didn't really like him at all before the coronovirus. But he seems well versed in emergency and incident management and generally has been doing the right things.
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Leperflesh posted:California actually caught up with its huge unprocessed test backlog this past weekend, unless the Chron is publishing false data. See the chart near the bottom of this page: It's pretty good. Thething that bothers me is that we don't have a plan on how to lift quarantine, and when. With 503 confirmed deaths we can pretty easily extrapolate out the range of Californians infected so far. Let's take a best case where we miss 90% of all cases due to them being asymptomatic or whatever and, as a result, have a true death rate of ~0.3%. With those values, only about 167k people have been infected, or 0.4% of California. So we have a looooooong way to go.
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Leperflesh posted:California actually caught up with its huge unprocessed test backlog this past weekend, unless the Chron is publishing false data. See the chart near the bottom of this page: While I'm hopeful this data is correct I'm not really sold on these numbers. Like looking at SK they are able to process about 10-12k (or so) tests a day but some how CA managed two clear out around 46k from the backlog + another say 30k from who knows where ( my math is a bit off but I'm rounding). So it looks like this is 10+ days of reporting all at once but it kinda doesn't explain the drop in the backlog all of the sudden because I highly doubt we have the throughput to clear out 40k in one day. I'd have to guess the total we could get through in a day would max out at 20k at most. Hopefully this data is correct because it would mean good things it just seems like some weird numbers popping up.
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