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empty whippet box posted:so the whole 60k deaths thing is a laughable, ridiculous line of bullshit and we're still on track for like 2 million deaths in the US right an optimistic estimate would be italy * 5. italy has 18k so that would be 90k
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shovelbum posted:6-7 years we're still gonna be sitting at home waiting on a vaccine
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empty whippet box posted:so the whole 60k deaths thing is a laughable, ridiculous line of bullshit and we're still on track for like 2 million deaths in the US right i mean it's possible that we won't do that thing where we open everything back up and face tank the virus like we're definitely going to do
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i think its likely that this first wave kills less than 100k. the problem is once it slows down Capital will force through an economic reopening and we get another wave in the early fall, and the argument will be the first wave wasnt so bad and the economic consequences will be so disastrously obvious at that point people will just go along with it.
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empty whippet box posted:so the whole 60k deaths thing is a laughable, ridiculous line of bullshit and we're still on track for like 2 million deaths in the US right isn't it predicted 100-200k?
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CODChimera posted:isn't it predicted 100-200k? It was but apparently now it isn't but it doesn't really matter anyway because the numbers aren't even close to correct so who even cares at this point
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poty posted:an optimistic estimate would be italy * 5. italy has 18k so that would be 90k italy's response was objectively way, way better than the US', and their nationwide medical system is much more robust. TurboFlamingChicken posted:It was but apparently now it isn't but it doesn't really matter anyway because the numbers aren't even close to correct so who even cares at this point and yes, it is becoming clear that pretty much every country has seriously underreported deaths.
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empty whippet box posted:so the whole 60k deaths thing is a laughable, ridiculous line of bullshit and we're still on track for like 2 million deaths in the US right the 60k death claim/model is assuming full social distancing into august by everyone lol
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i think its likely that this first wave kills less than 100k. the problem is once it slows down Capital will force through an economic reopening and we get another wave in the early fall, and the argument will be the first wave wasnt so bad and the economic consequences will be so disastrously obvious at that point people will just go along with it. this sounds about right the spanish flu happened pretty much the same way with two waves of people dying, both being about equal in # of dead
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How long before some chud incel militia takes over and The Handmaid's Tale becomes a documentary?
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All of this is also bullshit because cooking the books so much has basically destroyed any chance of actually learning wtf this virus like is or does on a population level
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TurboFlamingChicken posted:It was but apparently now it isn't but it doesn't really matter anyway because the numbers aren't even close to correct so who even cares at this point yeah thats probably going to be trumps main strategy to deal with it; lie a lot
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CODChimera posted:yeah thats probably going to be trumps main strategy to deal with it; lie a lot Is that going to be effective when everyone knows at least one person who has died from it and there are mass graves everywhere? I mean the MAGA types will definitely buy it but would a swing voter be convinced?
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so the strategy for getting to a couple million deaths here will be to undo social distancing and open the economy the moment things start to look like they're going in a positive direction, making it twice as bad as it was before and then keeping things open for too long before shutting it down again, followed by the same thing happening again in a couple months? I jus tknow the US government is going to do the shittiest, most evil possible thing that will lead to the worst possible outcome while somehow giving money to rich people and that seems like the likely way to do it
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You will never know how many people really died from this in the US. Your government is openly and actively working to make sure the numbers are underreported by not testing dead people, cancelling tests that have been begun for people who die before the result is provided and just plain not testing people. And there are a LOT of people who are fine with this even though it is plain obvious, downright evil and endangers every last one of them. I honestly can't find words to express how utterly hosed up this is.
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Hopper posted:I honestly can't find words to express how utterly hosed up this is. owns
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Hopper posted:I honestly can't find words to express how utterly hosed up this is. Number
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Hopper posted:You will never know how many people really died from this in the US. Your government is openly and actively working to make sure the numbers are underreported by not testing dead people, cancelling tests that have been begun for people who die before the result is provided and just plain not testing people. Well get a pretty close number actually. It will just be in a few years when someone does a year by year death total comparison.
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snoo posted:where's my loving money and my loving vaccine 
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Quarantine getting to some people https://twitter.com/Eugene_V_Dabbs/status/1248387505822433281?s=19
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Hopper posted:You will never know how many people really died from this in the US. Your government is openly and actively working to make sure the numbers are underreported by not testing dead people, cancelling tests that have been begun for people who die before the result is provided and just plain not testing people. Do we have any proof of this happening?
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Telsa Cola posted:Well get a pretty close number actually. Trump won't care he'll have won the election before then
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Forgot to do an New Zealand update today: Second death out of 1300+ cases, a 90 year old. 
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shovelbum posted:6-7 years we're still gonna be sitting in our caskets waiting on a burial
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Not So Fast posted:Do we have any proof of this happening? Hate to be that guy who knows a guy, but, I know someone in Florida who had a case serious enough for hospitalization. He had pneumonia and it got bad enough that it looked like he hasn't going to pull through at one point. He was never tested because he's young.
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Not So Fast posted:Do we have any proof of this happening? There was that article posted a few pages back about the ending of federal funding for coronavirus testing. Ostensibly it's just to save money or because the funds allocated to that program have run out, but it also has the effect of depressing the number of cases reported (which also means more people will die without being tested) which is why the government is quite happy to let it expire. So while there won't be a press release from the White House demanding that testing be fudged to make number go down, there's plenty of subtle things they can do which have the same effect.
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Not So Fast posted:Do we have any proof of this happening? Do you have proof of it not happening? 
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Telsa Cola posted:Well get a pretty close number actually. It will not be super obvious, since dead numbers lower because people stay home and theres less accidents. So the number will not come superquick and super obvious. Ane even *today* people deny them. We are gonna have Flatearters and Holocaust deniers -like people coming from every Fox-News like billonaries propaganda platform. Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i think its likely that this first wave kills less than 100k. the problem is once it slows down Capital will force through an economic reopening and we get another wave in the early fall, and the argument will be the first wave wasnt so bad and the economic consequences will be so disastrously obvious at that point people will just go along with it. Yeah.. : (
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i think its likely that this first wave kills less than 100k. the problem is once it slows down Capital will force through an economic reopening and we get another wave in the early fall, and the argument will be the first wave wasnt so bad and the economic consequences will be so disastrously obvious at that point people will just go along with it. lol in the fall the narrative from the federal govt and it's propaganda outlets is gonna be comfortably back to DEM HOAX WANTS TO HURT TRUMP BY RUINING INVINCIBLE ECONOMY. we can count the dead after trumps re election
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Forgot to do an New Zealand update today: well over here in the good ol USA we filled fifty refrigerated trailers with corpses.
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Stereotype posted:well over here in the good ol USA we filled fifty refrigerated trailers with corpses. No one cares about your failed country, though.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:I'm not convinced that theres going to be a second wave in the fall simply because the current US trajectory seems to be everyones getting this by June. not really, states that did early SIP like WA/CA will actually probably lick it, but it's not 0% gone and rest of the US is going to be dying because churches are open and chuds think it's a hoax to own themselves. after SIP gets relaxed and interstate and air travel starts picking up you'll get another wave because 90% won't have been infected, and then looping back around
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Xaris posted:not really, states that did early SIP like WA/CA will actually probably lick it, but it's not 0% gone and rest of the US is going to be dying because churches are open and chuds think it's a hoax to own themselves. after SIP gets relaxed and interstate and air travel starts picking up you'll get another wave because 90% won't have been infected, and then looping back around don’t worry, Trump is going to split the country into “green” and “red” zones so that places without any cases can start working again. of course, it is going to be purely political and random and will both fail to work while also creating a nullification crisis as states make their own designations for other states, disallowing interstate travel and further dividing the nation.
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Also was that one dude who claimed the data from Iceland and Germany showing that actual fatality numbers once you included asymptomatic cases was 1 in 300 huffing his own farts? Because if 1 in 300 fatalities true then at least 5 million people in the US have it so far.
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