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Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Heartcatch posted:

I meant the parts north of Phoenix. Everyone I've met from Phoenix has been a chud, but small sample size.

it's more that northern az is loving beautiful country to go hiking/backpacking in and that's not even including the grand canyon

chuds will all be placed in camps

obviously

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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

California can't take its ball and go home. What are Californians gonna do, repel the US military with their 5 round capacity rifles and kale rations?

CHUD Force versus the sovereign nation of California would make Grenada look like World War I.

Something like 10% of active duty military is from California, and even aside from that, ordering the army to invade their own country is going to be a hard sell

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

human garbage bag posted:

california seceding for anti-trump purposes would be very bad because the areas that contain the agricultural parts of the economy are majority chud, and the mountain passes between the coast and the farming areas are very easy to block.

that part is only owned by majority chud

it's all worked by migrants who vastly out number them

seattle plague rat
Apr 6, 2020
someone get me a brain helmet i will connect it to XCOM and prosecute the war singlehandedly like enders game

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON


That's not Bill Gates, that's Randy Newman. The syringe is the giveaway.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
I've spoken to my Friend Justin he said the west coast and the north east could join canada, as soon as he implements electoral reform

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

they have so many of the military basss tho

military bass fishing is a good source of both food and dodge chargers

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
California just needs to make a show about California having seceded which shows everyone that matters for this discussion much happier. Convince the right wing that it's more like kicking the godless freeloading immigrant-loving liberals out than them seceding of their own free will, and you have a much better shot at succeeding.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

SKULL.GIF posted:

10% of active duty military is from California, and even aside from that, ordering the army to invade their own country is going to be a hard sell

Counterpoint: 90% aren't, probably 85% of that 10% are CHUDs, and selling "we're shooting communist hippies" will be the easiest sell in history.

Hell, I'd probably sign up just so I could door gunner strafe Pelosi's vineyard from the side of a huey.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Gringostar posted:

also arizona has one of the largest intel manufacturing plants in the nation so it would be good to take it with us

plus, once you get north of phoenix arizona actually rules

yea this is true. Flagstaff and Phoenix are not at all the same. in fact Phoenix itself and Tempe are quite different from the non-Tempe suburbs of Phoenix

MODS CURE JOKES
Nov 11, 2009

OFFICIAL SAS 90s REMEMBERER

A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

California can't take its ball and go home. What are Californians gonna do, repel the US military with their 5 round capacity rifles and kale rations?

CHUD Force versus the sovereign nation of California would make Grenada look like World War I.

lol if you think the ~50,000 actual anarchists in California wouldn't immediately make the place into Afghanistan II: Electric Boogaloo

Jymmybob
Jun 26, 2000

Grimey Drawer

Mrs. Dash posted:

I live in Knoxville TN and I once overheard two old white dudes at the gym referring to Asheville as a "socialist hellhole." Can you confirm??

It's a hippie city surrounded by hillfolk. It makes for a weird dynamic especially when you factor in the upstate SC bunch which are much more typical southerners.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Gringostar posted:

that part is only owned by majority chud

it's all worked by migrants who vastly out number them

Do... Do you think the migrants have loyalty to a state that treats them like poo poo? No working class person should be willing to die for loving California.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

seattle plague rat posted:

someone get me a brain helmet i will connect it to XCOM and prosecute the war singlehandedly like enders game

tank u for your sacrifice mr seattle plague rat


not so much thanks for the bubonic plague but well, you get the heroes we need

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018

Shima Honnou posted:

military bass fishing is a good source of both food and dodge chargers

true

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

Gringostar posted:

also arizona has one of the largest intel manufacturing plants in the nation so it would be good to take it with us

plus, once you get north of phoenix arizona actually rules

Intel is dead, their newest stuff is getting demolished by amd on both the home and server front. And despites years and years of work and billions of dollars sunk into it, they have totally failed at capturing anything meaningful in mobile. Intel is going to be a financial engineering firm like IBM

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos

eric ciaramella posted:

I've spoken to my Friend Justin he said the west coast and the north east could join canada, as soon as he implements electoral reform

Now we know why Harry and Meghan moved here

King and Queen of the Hollywood Republic

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

SKULL.GIF posted:

California leaving the union, for whatever reason, would instantly trigger regional balkanizing because of several effects that directly derive from CA leaving:
  • losing any chance at the Senate
  • losing the House of Representatives (53 districts in CA)
  • permanently losing the Electoral College
  • losing the massive influx of funding from Californian taxes

With these stripped away, there wouldn't be any reason anymore for wealthy blue states like IL, NY, or WA to stay in the union and permanently subject to the whims of the ruling class from all the empty shithole red states in the West or the chudsvilles in the middle south. Without CA, the permanently-Republican-controlled federal government would strip-mine these blue states and distribute the loot to the rich and the red states. Why bother, why put up with that, when they massively outnumber them? They'd just separate from the federal government as well, and the remaining USA would become some amalgamation of the empty states (WY, MT, ND, SD) and the Southern states that are too poor and lacking in regional influence to really strike out on their own (AR, OK, TN, AL).

love to die as part of my liberal state militia so the psychotic real estate developers and tech CEOs don't have to pay taxes to psychotic used car dealers in Alabama

Gavin Newson is gonna declare he is fighting for the liberation of LGBTQ people as he lets masses of homeless people die in the streets of San Francisco

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

MODS CURE JOKES posted:

lol if you think the ~50,000 actual anarchists in California wouldn't immediately make the place into Afghanistan II: Electric Boogaloo

cant wait to start my opium farm tbh

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

Judakel posted:

Do... Do you think the migrants have loyalty to a state that treats them like poo poo? No working class person should be willing to die for loving California.

when the alternative is trump's federal government, yeah I think they'll pick california.

eighty-four merc
Dec 22, 2010


In 2020, we're going to make the end of Fight Club real.

Judakel posted:

Do... Do you think the migrants have loyalty to a state that treats them like poo poo? No working class person should be willing to die for loving California.

you're right they should definitely be willing to die for their bosses' material interests and not their own, great point

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

SKULL.GIF posted:

Something like 10% of active duty military is from California, and even aside from that, ordering the army to invade their own country is going to be a hard sell

10% of active duty, plus the marine training center on the west coast, plus the main naval bases on the west coast, plus all the r&d and missile command stuff for the air force

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

Judakel posted:

Do... Do you think the migrants have loyalty to a state that treats them like poo poo? No working class person should be willing to die for loving California.

The ultimate infantile belief of every Californian is that the filthy poors they treat like poo poo will exalt and even die for upper class neoliberal greed so no changes are ever necessary.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:

Counterpoint: 90% aren't, probably 85% of that 10% are CHUDs, and selling "we're shooting communist hippies" will be the easiest sell in history.

Hell, I'd probably sign up just so I could door gunner strafe Pelosi's vineyard from the side of a huey.

The chud contingent of the military is a lot lower than 85% -- closer to 50% -- and it's more the officers that lean Republican than the enlisted

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

human garbage bag posted:

california seceding for anti-trump purposes would be very bad because the areas that contain the agricultural parts of the economy are majority chud, and the mountain passes between the coast and the farming areas are very easy to block.

We'll take a few nukes from oak harbor in WA and send them to straight to those passes. They'll be cleaned out in no time and the blast will be contained mostly by the mountains.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Judakel posted:

Do... Do you think the migrants have loyalty to a state that treats them like poo poo? No working class person should be willing to die for loving California.

the idea of migrants laying their lives down for the gringo is pretty lol, but if you were gonna do it you'd have to offer them buy in

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1249049246847860736?s=20
Cruisepilling

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

eric ciaramella posted:

when the alternative is trump's federal government, yeah I think they'll pick california.

No they won't. Hell, I will go back home before I die for any state.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Judakel posted:

Do... Do you think the migrants have loyalty to a state that treats them like poo poo? No working class person should be willing to die for loving California.

any state separatism is powerful "rich man's war" bullshit

like, I'm for it because presumably it'll be suicide for the US empire, but lol I'm not fighting for any state or feds

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

MorrisBae posted:

Now we know why Harry and Meghan moved here

King and Queen of the Hollywood Republic

The only monarchs of California are Emperor Norton and his lineage.

kaleedity
Feb 27, 2016



all states in the usa have rural populations run by insane wealthy death cultists outside of urban populations run by lovely corporatist liberals

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

eighty-four merc posted:

you're right they should definitely be willing to die for their bosses' material interests and not their own, great point

They have no material interest in California succeeding in a secession and the rest of this loving post makes no sense. Who the gently caress is arguing that they die for their bosses' material interests?

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Judakel posted:

Do... Do you think the migrants have loyalty to a state that treats them like poo poo? No working class person should be willing to die for loving California.

service guarantees citizenship

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Gringostar posted:

service guarantees citizenship

God drat America.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Atrocious Joe posted:

any state separatism is powerful "rich man's war" bullshit

like, I'm for it because presumably it'll be suicide for the US empire, but lol I'm not fighting for any state or feds

i will fight to defend the family distillery

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Homeless Friend posted:

the idea of migrants laying their lives down for the gringo is pretty lol, but if you were gonna do it you'd have to offer them buy in

I'm going to join whatever force promises to return California to Mexico

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
warring states of america

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
An independent California is not going to stop treating migrants like poo poo. If anything, it will get worse. Gotta make that money somehow.

new kind of cat
May 8, 2007
lol this thread today

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Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Homeless Friend posted:

the idea of migrants laying their lives down for the gringo is pretty lol, but if you were gonna do it you'd have to offer them buy in

California is too racist to ever do this.

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