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Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

kiimo posted:

Mahomes got a 24 and was a straight A student with a photographic memory so yeah

That's cute that you believe that.

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a patagonian cavy
Jan 12, 2009

UUA CVG 230000 KZID /RM TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BENGALS DYNASTY

Eifert Posting posted:

Every other team enjoy the bengals not having Burrow while you can.

I remember in 2013 or so, my friends back home in Cincinnati told me to tune in to the playoff game that year, whichever one it was. They told me it was the year, the bengals looked great, how bad could this curse be.

You sound like one of those idiots.

JPrime
Jul 4, 2007

tales of derring-do, bad and good luck tales!
College Slice

BrownThunder posted:

Lamar Jackson sucks and Play posts like he’s writing a book report and needs to meet a word count. Good grief

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

lollll

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

https://twitter.com/Lj_era8/status/1251658142695469061

I can't believe Lamar is asking for amnesty for Paul Manafort

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

Josh Allen scored a 37 and one of his most recent plays had him throwing deep to a doubled covered fullback in a playoff game.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I dont think the Wonderlic has much if any bearing on a players talent

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

I don't think goff gets cut before 2022 and if he still sucks enough to cut then there's no reason to do a trade. Those roster bonuses make it too easy to cut him.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Barudak posted:

I dont think the Wonderlic has much if any bearing on a players talent

Seems like it would be pretty easy to run a little study and figure out if the wonderlic has any bearing on career success at all. I'm guessing "no"

I've also read that half the time the scores reported in the press aren't even true. Bob McGinn claimed these scores for the incoming quarterback class but didn't mention where he got them or how he knows them:

Nate Stanley (Iowa): 40
Jake Fromm (Georgia); 35
Joe Burrow (LSU): 34
Jake Luton (Oregon State): 29
Jordan Love (Utah State): 27
Justin Herbert (Oregon): 25
Anthony Gordon (Washington State): 25
Brian Lewerke (Michigan State): 25
Jacob Eason (Washington): 23
James Morgan (Florida International): 23
Jalen Hurts (Oklahoma): 18
Tua Tagovailoa (Alabama): 13

Then I found this somewhere else:

quote:

First, an update to this post: Later reports contradicted McGinn's list of test scores for top quarterback prospects. According to former Notre Dame receiver (and fellow 2020 draft prospect) Chase Claypool, Oregon's Justin Herbert scored a 39 (out of 50) instead of the 25 that McGinn reported. Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer backed Claypool's statement.

So, it'd be hard to run any sort of scientific comparison when we don't even have access to good results. Just seems like bullshit pseudoscience to me. The highest score ever was some punter back in the 70s

Phobeste
Apr 9, 2006

never, like, count out Touchdown Tom, man
Do you want to like say where the “somewhere else” was or anything

Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

GIVE ME MORE
SUPER BOWL
WINS

fsif posted:

Josh Allen scored a 37 and one of his most recent plays had him throwing deep to a doubled covered fullback in a playoff game.
Not even a fullback noted for receiving ability, but a fullback who mostly plays special teams and occasionally blocks on run plays!
One of the most ridiculous incompletions I've ever seen.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

fsif posted:

Josh Allen scored a 37 and one of his most recent plays had him throwing deep to a doubled covered fullback in a playoff game.

Fullbacks are big so they make good targets no matter what

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



fsif posted:

Josh Allen scored a 37 and one of his most recent plays had him throwing deep to a doubled covered fullback in a playoff game.

If being smart had anything to do with Quarterbacking talent Ryan Fitzpatrick wouldn't play like a moron.

Anyone actually smart probably makes a lousy QB because being an NFL caliber QB requires having a laser focus on one thing and absolutely zero curiosity or interest in anything besides being a QB.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Phobeste posted:

Do you want to like say where the “somewhere else” was or anything

just some sports article I found when I looked up wonderlic 2020. I think it was on ABC

Some of the famous low scoring wonderlics have been Dan Marino and Jim Kelly at 15, Donovan McNabb at 14 and Lamar Jackson at 13. All very good quarterbacks obviously

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
The Wonderlic is worthless and it's pretty gross how the only time people ever use it or care about it is to scrutinize the intelligence of black quarterbacks

This poo poo happens like clockwork every year

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Benne posted:

The Wonderlic is worthless and it's pretty gross how the only time people ever use it or care about it is to scrutinize the intelligence of black quarterbacks

This poo poo happens like clockwork every year

Johnny Manziel outscored Russell Wilson.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


It's a number. It's one number of many; used in conjunction with other metrics, it may improve a predictive model. Used alone, it will not be that helpful.

FWIW, the lowest wonderlic score by a Super Bowl winning QB drafted in the last 40 years is 22, by Brett Favre.

You could probably find vaguely similar distributional cutoffs for metrics such as height or weight.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

Taste my Ball of Hope, foul dragon!


fsif posted:

Josh Allen scored a 37 and one of his most recent plays had him throwing deep to a doubled covered fullback in a playoff game.

It’s only a bad play when it fails. If Aaron Rodgers threads the needle on a double coverage play he’s suddenly a tactical genius. Josh is just breaking a few eggs on his way to unleashing the dragon.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Chichevache posted:

Johnny Manziel outscored Russell Wilson.

Nah, Russell Wilson got Ciara.

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



Imagine caring about the wonderlic outside of being PFTC, or when talking about Vince Young / Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

OxySnake posted:

Imagine caring about the wonderlic outside of being PFTC, or when talking about Vince Young / Ryan Fitzpatrick.

If Im the person paid to write it I care a lot

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill
Is that a real wonderlic page on that Vince Young joke

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

Hook em

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


https://twitter.com/JordanHeckFF/status/1251510798796550145?s=20

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.
Tua actually scored a 19 and the 13 was from 2 years ago.

Just to add how to inaccurate the score reporting can be.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/rolltidewire.usatoday.com/2020/04/17/report-tua-tagovailoa-gets-updated-wonderlic-score/amp/

Coolwhoami
Sep 13, 2007
The big truss was in trump the whole time

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
I score amazingly on logic tests like the wonderlic. I don't have a lot of faith in them as an evaluator of intelligence.

No Irish Need Imply
Nov 30, 2008
somehow this is one of my favorite football memories

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH

"Oh poo poo! Darren Sharper!" was a prescient phrase

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Its Rinaldo posted:

"Oh poo poo! Darren Sharper!" was a prescient phrase

love his break down of the beast quake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd_Vd43Vxa0

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

Eifert Posting posted:

I score amazingly on logic tests like the wonderlic. I don't have a lot of faith in them as an evaluator of intelligence.

Yeah there are some smart people that are dogshit at standardized tests, it's a dumb way to measure intelligence and that's speaking as someone who has benefited significantly from their existence

chamois
Oct 24, 2010

love 2 play for the NCAA for free, seriously injuring myself in the process and potentially losing millions, and then got slandered for not doing well on a standardized test, while being denied an education due to the demands of the sport i'm playing while supposedly my compensation for playing college football was the "education" i didn't receive

OneMoreTime
Feb 20, 2011

*quack*


Flikken posted:

Browns sent 6 there in 2013, a year they went 3-13.

The AFC is a mistake.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

OneMoreTime posted:

The AFC is a mistake.

Counterpoint: gently caress the Cowboys.

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.

OneMoreTime posted:

The AFC is a mistake.

Yeah, uh, it's been pretty lopsided in favor of the AFC for 2 decades bruh

Kawalimus
Jan 17, 2008

Better Living Through Birding And Pessimism
In the 00s AFC was so far ahead it was unreal. NFC was where you'd have 7-9 teams winning the division and a playoff game and the Arizona Cardinals getting to the SB although they had their strong passing game. But in the mid 10s the NFC kind of came back on top. Now with Mahomes and Jackson and others like Watson heading the AFC the AFC might be pulling ahead again. And the NFC is going to lose Brees soon. But who knows who else might come to prominence.

a patagonian cavy
Jan 12, 2009

UUA CVG 230000 KZID /RM TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BENGALS DYNASTY
all conferences and divisions are the same.

except the afc north which loving rules

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Came across these Caesar's sportsbook odds, provided the season happens


Kansas City Chiefs: 12
Baltimore Ravens: 12
New Orleans Saints: 10.5
San Francisco 49ers: 10.5
Dallas Cowboys: 9.5
Philadelphia Eagles: 9.5
Seattle Seahawks: 9.5
Buffalo Bills: 9
Pittsburgh Steelers: 9
Minnesota Vikings: 9
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 9
New England Patriots: 8.5
Cleveland Browns: 8.5
Indianapolis Colts: 8.5
Tennessee Titans: 8.5
Los Angeles Chargers: 8.5
Chicago Bears: 8.5
Green Bay Packers: 8.5
Los Angeles Rams: 8.5
Houston Texans: 7.5
Denver Broncos: 7.5
Atlanta Falcons: 7.5
Arizona Cardinals: 7.5
Las Vegas Raiders: 7
New York Jets: 6.5
Detroit Lions: 6.5
Miami Dolphins: 6
New York Giants: 5.5
Carolina Panthers: 5.5
Cincinnati Bengals: 5
Jacksonville Jaguars: 4.5
Washington Redskins: 4.5

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
NFC becoming weak means a thousand years of Russell tyranny and I'm here for that.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Since we're pretending there will be a 2020 season, my favorite bets on that list are Cowboys under 9.5, Steelers under 9, Bears under 8.5, Browns under 8.5, Potatoes over 4.5

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fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Its Rinaldo posted:

NFC becoming weak means a thousand years of Russell tyranny and I'm here for that.

Just you wait for the New York Football Giants and Daniel Jones to rise and-:suicide: lol jk we gonna suck for a while

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