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Last Week Tonight With John Oliver just did an entire episode about how Fox News and other right wing media are directly affecting Trump's response to the pandemic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWoc8yF5BI0 He also went over the issue where the science has now become politicized, and if you take a certain view on the scientific advice that's being interpreted in some quarters as being "anti-Trump" Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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Philthy posted:We may see 100k, especially with states opening up already. We're not even at the start
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Not anymore. I have two gas masks though with maybe 5 filters but I'm sure those filters are far beyond the expiration date. These are what I got, with some replacable filters, but ordered them 2 months ago and, only managed to snag 2, and my stupid mother took one
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shovelbum posted:We're not even at the start yeah, there will be a deadly covid every year pretty much, if the new sars covids are at all similar to other coronaviruses in immunity being temporary
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bort posted:That's a little too easy. The left leaning publications have histrionic, emotion tugging fear mongering that opens itself up to attack, too. It’s not science's fault, but the left leaning publications “stand for science”, and a minimal medical impact juxtaposed with an extended economic impact will end up laid at their feet. They were always going to do that anyway regardless of the outcome because that's their business model, you're getting yourself worked up over eventualities that we can't avoid Edit: Trump has already made a huge number of statements about COVID-19 that were provably, irrefutably, undeniably incorrect (15 US cases but then it'll drop to zero and it'll be done, LOL) but people immediately forgot and are still listening to him Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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bob dobbs is dead posted:yeah, there will be a deadly covid every year pretty much, if the new sars covids are at all similar to other coronaviruses in immunity being temporary Yeah and it does lingering damage so I can't imagine most people making it through more than a few years
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Edit: Trump has already made a huge number of statements about COVID-19 that were provably, irrefutably, undeniably incorrect (15 US cases but then it'll drop to zero and it'll be done, LOL) but people immediately forgot and are still listening to him Doublethink is real and has been real since monkeys picked up rocks.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Last Week Tonight With John Oliver just did an entire episode about how Fox News and other right wing media are directly affecting Trump's response to the pandemic Your video restarts 2/3 of the way through, but aside from that it's p good.
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Supreme Allah posted:These are what I got, with some replacable filters, but ordered them 2 months ago and, only managed to snag 2, and my stupid mother took one drat, you got owned by your stupid mother.
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Imagine being quarantined with your parents.
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Shaocaholica posted:Imagine being quarantined with your parents. Cake or death?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WsuaYh_hkg
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shovelbum posted:We're not even at the start Yep
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Plastik posted:Your video restarts 2/3 of the way through, but aside from that it's p good. Ah poo poo, sorry. I edited in a different link with the full episode. The main segment ends at 20 minutes and then he goes onto related stuff so you probably didn't miss much of the crucial stuff anyway
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Celebrities and sports people are already starting to talk about their worries about the coronavirus vaccine (even though it might still be a year to 18 months away). Top ranked men's tennis player Novak Djokovic has said that he's opposed to a vaccine and if they make it compulsory for players to take the vaccine before they're allowed to play in tournaments again he would have to make a "difficult decision". https://www.theage.com.au/sport/tennis/novak-djokovic-opposes-coronavirus-vaccination-20200420-p54lbz.html Oh thanks, that's super useful.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Celebrities and sports people are already starting to talk about their worries about the coronavirus vaccine (even though it might still be a year to 18 months away). Top ranked men's tennis player Novak Djokovic has said that he's opposed to a vaccine and if they make it compulsory for players to take the vaccine before they're allowed to play in tournaments again he would have to make a "difficult decision". Cool, just sign that waiver and stay home, bitch
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Last Week Tonight With John Oliver just did an entire episode about how Fox News and other right wing media are directly affecting Trump's response to the pandemic drat I did not know the full details of the start of Trump going all in on HCL and this is far more damning than I even thought
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Shaocaholica posted:Imagine being quarantined with your parents. I am. Well, I’m on their property, and am shopping for them. We get along really well. And they have a big yard. And I have a garage apartment, so it works out. They also live right next to a bunch of trails that lead into open space, so I’m getting to hike plenty.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Celebrities and sports people are already starting to talk about their worries about the coronavirus vaccine (even though it might still be a year to 18 months away). Top ranked men's tennis player Novak Djokovic has said that he's opposed to a vaccine and if they make it compulsory for players to take the vaccine before they're allowed to play in tournaments again he would have to make a "difficult decision". Personally I think you'd have to be mad or have some significant Covid risk factors to be lining up to take the first batch of vaccines. There's enough fuckups with drugs when there isn't massive time pressure, and the commercial incentive to get something approved has probably never been higher for any drug in the history of modern medicine. I hate to think what complications are being handwaved away or deliberately under reported in trials. This isn't coming from some addled anti-vaxxer concerned about autism or whatever, I happily get flu shots yearly and booster shots of various things before travelling etc. I'd just rather stay inside for 6 months rather than risk lifelong immune complications from some rushed vaccine.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Celebrities and sports people are already starting to talk about their worries about the coronavirus vaccine (even though it might still be a year to 18 months away). Top ranked men's tennis player Novak Djokovic has said that he's opposed to a vaccine and if they make it compulsory for players to take the vaccine before they're allowed to play in tournaments again he would have to make a "difficult decision". Hopefully part of that is the fear that a vaccine will be rushed out without being properly tested. My trust in the CDC/FDA has never been lower, I'd be reluctant to get a vaccine right away unless it has been verified safe by independent academic institutions and multiple public health agencies outside of the US.
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gay picnic defence posted:Personally I think you'd have to be mad or have some significant Covid risk factors to be lining up to take the first batch of vaccines. There's enough fuckups with drugs when there isn't massive time pressure, and the commercial incentive to get something approved has probably never been higher for any drug in the history of modern medicine. I hate to think what complications are being handwaved away or deliberately under reported in trials. Yeah same, I do have all manners of vaccinations, and have no reservations whatsoever normally but I am not a big fan of rushing to get some some hurriedly cobbled together vaccine before it has been tested and proven safe. There is a reason development takes 4+ years normally.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 07:55 |
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Love to have allergy season turning me into a sneezing mess for a half hour every morning at the moment. When I do unfortunately have to leave the house I'm praying I don't sneeze and get beat up by an angry mob
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Wheres the pun
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 08:24 |
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Cool country
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https://www.afp.com/en/news/15/social-distancing-may-be-needed-until-2022-harvard-study-doc-1ql5bc3 Apparently we may have to keep social distancing until at least 2022 just to keep the hospitals from becoming overwhelmed if this Harvard study proves to be true. I...don't see some states taking this lightly here in the US. People can't even handle the less than 60 days we've been doing it now. 2 years would be catastrophic for them. And for the world's economy.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Celebrities and sports people are already starting to talk about their worries about the coronavirus vaccine (even though it might still be a year to 18 months away). Top ranked men's tennis player Novak Djokovic has said that he's opposed to a vaccine and if they make it compulsory for players to take the vaccine before they're allowed to play in tournaments again he would have to make a "difficult decision". this guy is DYING for a legal way to retire and break his actual gameday contracts
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haha holy poo poo
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ThermoPhysical posted:https://www.afp.com/en/news/15/social-distancing-may-be-needed-until-2022-harvard-study-doc-1ql5bc3 every single instance of outbreak in history suggests not only will we be socially distancing until 2022, we'll be doing it again in 2024-25, 2030, and then once more in 2045 why we think this time will be any different, i have no loving idea
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"but this time will be different" said the fool; said the utter complete moron
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its pretty loving weird that Polybius (ca 200 – ca 118 BCE) said "history repeats itself" and yet here we are 2000 years later thinking "nah, it doesnt"
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oh ya its because 50% of people dont even think critically [about things like that]
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naem posted:if I buy frozen microwave meals packed in cardboard, and put them in the freezer and don’t touch them for three days, washing my hands after, probably ok to take out days later and microwave (right?) I wouldn't. If you need to buy cardboard-only frozen meals, I'd suggest giving them a solid scrub with soapy water (it works about as well on inanimate objects as it does on human skin) first. You don't have to soak the cardboard, just make sure a fair amount of soapy suds make their way over the whole surface, that's the important part in killin' the virus' lipids, then a quick rinse to wash the soap off, and you can dry it off with a paper towel or something. If you have proper disinfecting wipes or something, you can use that instead. If you have cardboard meals with plastic bags containing the actual food inside the exterior cardboard box, you can just take the interior packaging out of the exterior (just dump it out without touching it in the process), then put the interior packaging in the freezer (handy for pizzas and so forth). Freezing something with the 'roni on the outer surface won't seem to do anything to get rid of it, as far as we can tell. The SARs family loves cold temperatures. Important to know for the coming warm seasons, particularly pertaining to frozen treats (ideally, the safest sort would be individually wrapped treats packaged into an exterior box that you can pull off the 'dump out of the box' method with, since no human hands have touched those interior wrapped items, generally).
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EimiYoshikawa posted:I wouldn't. Don't just splash some soapy water on it; wipe it down with bleach or alcohol if you have it. The study that looked at the temperature ranges necessary to kill coronavirus also looked at various cleaning agents, and found that basically all of the standard stuff works immediately but when they used soapy water they had to soak their samples for ~5 minutes before they could no longer detect viable viruses. It's possible that splashing soapy water on a surface is enough to bring the viral load below whatever threshold is necessary to infect a person, but there's no reason to take that chance.
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I give a little bleach swipe to most stuff from the grocery store.
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QuarkJets posted:found that basically all of the standard stuff works immediately but when they used soapy water they had to soak their samples for ~5 minutes before they could no longer detect viable viruses. does this mean that alcohol based hand sanitizer works better on your hands than washing with soap and water? I remember hearing a bunch of stuff from the news about how washing your hands is the best way to kill it, and hand sanitizer should only be relied on if you can't wash your hands. it kinda reminded me of the whole "only doctors/nurses need masks" thing you heard everywhere from a month ago, so I've been doing both (washing then sanitizing) because my megacorp sent me two cases of germ-x as a consolation prize for having to work during the plague
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Doesn't soap physically gently caress up the roni by disrupting something something science ?
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Yeah it breaks down the virus membrane https://www.marketwatch.com/story/deadly-viruses-are-no-match-for-plain-old-soap-heres-the-science-behind-it-2020-03-08
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should i be eating soap?
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