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kiimo posted:Wait a minute. Uh if the Dolphins are trying to move up to 3 AND KEEP 5 then they are going to pay a boatload of picks to Detroit. And that makes me wonder if Detroit is getting into the Trevor Lawrence Sweepstakes If Stafford goes down again or is for some reason completely ineffective post-injury they're there already. But even though there seems to be some odd thought going around that Stafford is finished he was balling the gently caress out last year until he got hurt. The Lions weren't all that good even when he was playing, but at least it wasn't his fault in 2019.
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kiimo posted:Wait a minute. Uh if the Dolphins are trying to move up to 3 AND KEEP 5 then they are going to pay a boatload of picks to Detroit. And that makes me wonder if Detroit is getting into the Trevor Lawrence Sweepstakes It's roughly equivalent to the Dolphins giving up #18, #26, and #39. I don't think Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn are worried too much about their 2021 picks at this point.
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Gonz posted:The general logic is that the Cardinals are going to draft a tackle. it would be, but more than anything the offense needs better pass pro otherwise all that receiving talent could be wasted. An underrated part of Mahomes' success has actually been the Chiefs pass protection Although, the Cardinals are running that weird spread concept so who knows, it could work
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Cards have some great receivers, but you draft for the future and Fitzgerald will need to be replaced. But, obviously if a great LT prospect is there, you take the LT.
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Schrags with some notes. https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1253081011975532545 https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1253081342755078144 https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1253083671445241863
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Slowpoke! posted:Cards have some great receivers, but you draft for the future and Fitzgerald will need to be replaced. But, obviously if a great LT prospect is there, you take the LT. 100% agree. Gotta protect that #1 pick investment.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Schrags with some notes. Will lol extremely hard if Tua drops to new england.
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really queer Christmas posted:Will lol extremely hard if Tua drops to new england. I could've poo poo out these takes he got from "working the phones in the last 24 hours" in a minute or two, I wouldn't take it too seriously. I just don't think he could fall that far, injuries be damned. He's a special player who may well be better than Joe Burrow, and there seems to be pretty wide consensus that he is at LEAST the second best quarterback available here. When has the second best quarterback in a given year fallen to the end of the first round? More importantly I don't WANT it to happen
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Play posted:I could've poo poo out these takes he got from "working the phones in the last 24 hours" in a minute or two, I wouldn't take it too seriously. The best quarterback fell to the very end of the first round two years ago.
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2005 also
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My top 100 and top 10 for each position with their CBS page links: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1udOR8WF4VCr4gL5R7pBJMw_j_Xt05V1OKb_yuLPQM7Q/edit?usp=sharing
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Doltos posted:My top 100 and top 10 for each position with their CBS page links: This is good and I appreciate the effort put into it.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The best quarterback fell to the very end of the first round two years ago. true, but that's the guy who ENDED up being the best quarterback, not the consensus before the draft, like in Tua's case where he is considered the best or second best QB on offer give goons credit though, we were way ahead of the curve on lamar jackson Cavauro posted:2005 also got me there
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Play posted:I could've poo poo out these takes he got from "working the phones in the last 24 hours" in a minute or two, I wouldn't take it too seriously. 2001
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The 2020 NFL Goon Draft is complete! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3918124
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This is a really hard draft to pinpoint because everyone either has a ton of injuries or a lot of inconsistent play with flashes of brilliance.
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I dunno if I buy this current theory about all the OTs worthy of a first round pick going in the top 10. The only way I see it happening is if Giants Jags Arizona Browns ' All go OT Giants sure, but the Jags defense got gutted this offseason, Arizona has huge holes elsewhere. I suppose this is all assuming Miami are ready to jettison Rosen and San Diego take Herbert because you gotta think if neither of those teams want Hebert or Tua all bets are off. I also really don't think Tua would drop past the Panthers at 7 either.
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kiimo posted:https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/st...0784%26page%3D9 i've got 3 or 4 main ideas about this... one is that the cardinals have had o line problems forever and last year due to the marcus gilbert injury they went into the season with basically the same idiots and I was expecting kyler to get absolutely demolished due to them... and it didn't really happen. so in an awful situation our o line coach got us something kyler can work with. second, if that tweet about 4 tackles gone before the 11th pick has any amount of truth... the cards should be sniffing around to avoid another 2013 draft where we are handcuffed by the previous picks and take a loser (the 5th o lineman at the 8th pick) third, I feel like I've said this for 3-4 years now, but last year's injuries seemed unlucky. this year we'll have marcus gilbert and max garcia back. who knows. e: and yeah, if 4 QBs go before the cards pick then we take the best OL and laugh
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BlindSite posted:I dunno if I buy this current theory about all the OTs worthy of a first round pick going in the top 10. The only way I see it happening is if Rosen is not in Miami’s plans at all. Either our front office made a stupid trade or our coaching staff can’t develop a QB.
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Ehud posted:Rosen is not in Miami’s plans at all. Either our front office made a stupid trade or our coaching staff can’t develop a QB. Maybe he's just bad. I was never a believer in Rosen and didn't think he was going to make it. Tua just makes way too much sense.
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BlindSite posted:Maybe he's just bad. I was never a believer in Rosen and didn't think he was going to make it. Tua just makes way too much sense. I can simultaneously believe that Rosen might just be bad and that he might have been good but we'd never know now What NFL QB probably holds the consecutive "maybe we can fix him" seasons record
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GD_American posted:I can simultaneously believe that Rosen might just be bad and that he might have been good but we'd never know now bradford probably
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BlindSite posted:Maybe he's just bad. I was never a believer in Rosen and didn't think he was going to make it. Tua just makes way too much sense. If he’s just bad then that fits into my “the front office made a stupid trade” category. In any case, they don’t like Rosen and he might not even be on the team after this weekend.
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Diva Cupcake posted:The consensus best QB in 2013 went 2nd round. I'm obviously happy now but holy poo poo was I so pissed that was the year my team had the first overall pick.
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this is not a "I am smart" statement posed as a question. it's an ignorant dumb rear end question. Why did people think Rosen was going to be good? Is he really sarcastic just like Aaron Rodgers edit I guess he was owning but got a lot of concussions?? Cavauro fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Apr 23, 2020 |
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Play posted:true, but that's the guy who ENDED up being the best quarterback, not the consensus before the draft, like in Tua's case where he is considered the best or second best QB on offer Well, the broad concensus is that Tua would be the best or second best QB IF he were healthy and able to stay healthy.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Well, the broad concensus is that Tua would be the best or second best QB IF he were healthy and able to stay healthy. Honestly if he didn’t have injury concerns Cinci would have a long night
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Diva Cupcake posted:The consensus best QB in 2013 went 2nd round. Enough time has passed that I can now see the humor in EJ Manuel somehow being a first rounder. I was just happy that they didn't take Ryan Nassib. What a year.
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Amy Pole Her posted:Honestly if he didn’t have injury concerns Cinci would have a long night I still think it would be Burrow but I think things might be a whole lot more interesting for Washington and New York even after getting their "future" guys last year and Detroit could be chasing a kings ransom right now.
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fsif posted:Enough time has passed that I can now see the humor in EJ Manuel somehow being a first rounder. Holy poo poo I forgot about the Marrone/Nassib hype. What a terrible draft.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Holy poo poo I forgot about the Marrone/Nassib hype. What a terrible draft. The 2013 "top" 10, everyone: Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel, Dion Jordan, Lane Johnson, Ziggy Ansah, Barkevious Mingo, Jonathan Cooper, Tavon Austin, Dee Milliner, and Chance Warmack. Like, I'm pretty sure Lane Johnson is the only guy who isn't a JAG at best. The third round was pretty great though! But, as quarterbacks go, it's between Mike Glennon and Matt Barkley as the best.
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