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Libluini posted:A recent DWU-LP got stopped cold because of a bug making it impossible to found new colonies.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:What kind of bug? Is it a game bug or a mod bug? The LPer didn't say, but he played lame-rear end Vanilla Humans, so I'm willing to bet no mod
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Oh hi! I updated the goon species mod to compatibility with 2.6.*, and fixed the species that were broken by the introduction of Origins. The mod could probably use a thorough combing through to change civics/traits/origins but I'm not the person for that kind of job at the moment. Hell yeah, thanks! I've been using the old version of this, which caused a bunch of empires to spawn with just 1 civic.
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Demiurge4 posted:So is tech federation considered just garbage? A lot of the bonuses don't seem very good. Martial alliance on the other hand guarantees a massive federation fleet and especially in MP this is king. Even trade fed gets a bigger fleet than science nerds. Martial alliance is incredible and is worth the mini-game to wrangle control of the federation. It took a lot of favours and a mega-structure to do so, but hey you get a huge fleet out of it! I had the standard galactic alliance on my last game and it was "meh" but I was playing a humanoid race of egalitarian diplomats so I was kind of asking for it. I engaged with the martial alliance far more than I did with the regular galactic federation, that's for sure.
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Aethernet posted:Nothing will beat that 1.x bug where every galaxy was overtaken with an outbreak of pacifism and no wars ever happened. Not technically a bug, but the 1.0 or 1.1-ish corvettes that had high enough evasion to basically be immune to all non-tracking Prethorian Swarm weapons was rather amusing.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What're some cool new species builds for 2.6? I started a Hive Mind Lithoid Tree of Life but I'm not feeling it. Hive Mind Lithoid Ring World is pretty crazy, imo.
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Schadenboner posted:
Its ok, we're all actually inside a paradox game right now so everything counts!
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hobbesmaster posted:Its ok, we're all actually inside a paradox game right now so everything counts! Is this the plague DLC for CK2 if it was modded to play for far too long?
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Bofast posted:Is this the plague DLC for CK2 if it was modded to play for far too long? We are in this Paradox game.
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Captain Invictus posted:stellaris's UI is Very Helpful  
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what the heck I've never had 1000 naval capacity, who is that even for? Are you taking on three Awakened Empires at the same time or have crisis strength set to like 500%?
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:what the heck You know the War in Heaven where you're given the choice of siding with Awakened Empire A or Awakened Empire B, joining the Federation of Non-Aligned Chumps, or you can try to stay out of it and inevitably get dunked on by whoever wins? I took the unlisted fifth option: fight literally everyone.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:what the heck Currently have almost the entire galaxy against me(because I'm trying to vassalize my neighbor and they're in a federation with most of the rest of the galaxy) and also I'm dealing with the scourge while that's going on Scourge fleets are half a million for the standard fleets, with the occasional 1mil fleet. Most regular empire fleets at this point are 90k-180k. Protip: terminal egress is the most vital chokepoint in the entire game, reinforce a Starbase there to the max and station multiple powerful fleets so that you can ambush everything that tries to fast travel through it since every L gate teleport has to pass through there Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Apr 23, 2020 |
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What exactly triggers the War in Heaven? I haven't seen one ever. Is it a mini-crisis like the marauder Khan?
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If one of the xenophile/xenophobe or spiritualist/materialist empires awakens, there is a chance their opposite will awaken to spite them and reignite their ancient wars from god knows how long ago. That's basically it. I think the endgame crisis can also trigger it if there's one already awake and it forces their counterpart to awaken as guardian of the galaxy, too.
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Captain Invictus posted:Everything cranked to max, yes Also you can build a standard gateway directly on top of the L-gate in Terminal Egress. Then make fleet bases / shipyards in all the other L-gate systems, so you can react quickly when poo poo does happen. Because that cuts the travel time from station to L-gate to gateway network down to like 2 days, vs more like 20 if they have to travel to the edge of the system in order to reach the gate.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:what the heck I have at least 1000 naval capacity in like every game ever. You kinda need it on grand admiral.
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silentsnack posted:Also you can build a standard gateway directly on top of the L-gate in Terminal Egress. Then make fleet bases / shipyards in all the other L-gate systems, so you can react quickly when poo poo does happen. Because that cuts the travel time from station to L-gate to gateway network down to like 2 days, vs more like 20 if they have to travel to the edge of the system in order to reach the gate. Right, yes, yes. I personally set a gateway a tiny bit away from the lgate so fleets have to spend some time in TE which gives my fleets time to latch onto them if they're hostile.
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Captain Invictus posted:Right, yes, yes. I personally set a gateway a tiny bit away from the lgate so fleets have to spend some time in TE which gives my fleets time to latch onto them if they're hostile. Which enemies are allowed to use your gateways? If you own TE and have the "FTL Inhibitors" tech (sometimes it's better not to research this, because it means enemies will try to path through your systems and brainlessly suicide into a big citadel) and they're hostile then their only options are to attack your starbase or to jump out using the same L-gate. I get what you're saying but I've tried to ambush enemies by positioning multiple fleets directly on top of the L-gate, but if they're just pathing to another black hole they instantly jump out, before the game even registers that they should be in combat.
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silentsnack posted:Which enemies are allowed to use your gateways? If you own TE and have the "FTL Inhibitors" tech (sometimes it's better not to research this, because it means enemies will try to path through your systems and brainlessly suicide into a big citadel) and they're hostile then their only options are to attack your starbase or to jump out using the same L-gate. I dunno, but I've got 2 corvette fleets and 2 battleship fleets sitting right outside the lgate and see fleets try to go to the regular gate before entering combat. Maybe it's a bug and they try to use the other gate before doubling back to the lgate if I don't attack them, I dunno. But I'm getting near-constant combat reports as enemy fleets constantly enter terminal egress.
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silentsnack posted:Which enemies are allowed to use your gateways? If you own TE and have the "FTL Inhibitors" tech (sometimes it's better not to research this, because it means enemies will try to path through your systems and brainlessly suicide into a big citadel) and they're hostile then their only options are to attack your starbase or to jump out using the same L-gate. Only people to whom you have your borders opened can use your Gateways, war enemies never can. L-Gates are an exception however, and you can absolutely L-Gate into TE, and then use the L-Gate there to immediately travel to any other L-Gate in the galaxy, regardless of ownership or the presence of an FTL Inhibitor in TE.
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bugs, bugs, everywhere! I cleared out a system of a now-dead empire the scourge gobbled up. in it is a science nexus and a gateway. I am currently at war with basically everyone for one reason or another. I had multiple fleets positioned at the gateway ready to kill anything that came through, and a construction ship ready to build a starbase from the word go. starts building, is set to passive. enemy fleets are popping up every couple days in the gateway, instantly nullifying the starbase build, despite the passive stance, which is annoying enough. but not only does it do that, the "resources refunded" does not include influence, so every time it kills a starbase build attempt there, it's basically throwing 52 influence in the bin! brilliant also the driven assimilators I declared war on a decade ago but haven't done anything to have been just mashing their fleets into my 200k 40 defense platform citadel in terminal egress over and over again. it's all they've been doing with their fleets. they're driven alright, but it seems more to throw themselves onto the pyre than assimilate anything, besides my lasers with their faces Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Apr 23, 2020 |
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You can't build a starbase in a system with hostile fleets present. I always thought that was a reasonable enough rule, but I can see how it totally dicks you over in that very specific scenario. Also not refunding influence is deff bullshit.
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-177-edict-rework.1384129/ Dev diary on edicts. It looks good, and the references to pop growth are intriguing...
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:You can't build a starbase in a system with hostile fleets present. I always thought that was a reasonable enough rule, but I can see how it totally dicks you over in that very specific scenario. Also not refunding influence is deff bullshit. Yeah, that also happens if you try to build a starbase in a system and another empire (even a non-hostile one) beats you to it. Not only do you not get the system, it eats the influence you used as well.
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Aethernet posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-177-edict-rework.1384129/ Very curious whether the other authorities have their own effects.
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I assume an implied lack of effect in regards to edict capacity. I guess it is a question of whether they plan on giving them something else instead, or feel that this was a needed buff for the authoritarian government forms specifically.
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Aethernet posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-177-edict-rework.1384129/ very curious what new bugs this will introduce. probably just breaking some edicts entirely so they have no effect. or maybe the AI will not use them?
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Aethernet posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-177-edict-rework.1384129/
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Aethernet posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-177-edict-rework.1384129/
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:You can't build a starbase in a system with hostile fleets present. I always thought that was a reasonable enough rule, but I can see how it totally dicks you over in that very specific scenario. Also not refunding influence is deff bullshit. It's a dumb rule. That should only be the behaviour if your construction ship is set to evasive. If it's set to passive, it should just try and finish it's task regardless of hostile fleets. The current way makes advancing against a crisis annoying as gently caress, as it's nearly impossible to reclaim an unowned system with a gateway. Hutter posted:I assume an implied lack of effect in regards to edict capacity. I guess it is a question of whether they plan on giving them something else instead, or feel that this was a needed buff for the authoritarian government forms specifically. I would hope that it's just a buff to dictatorial and imperial authority, there's literally no reason to use them now given that Meritocracy exists.
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Splicer posted:I really hate the rare resource edicts What's so bad about them? I like that I can spend resources to (mainly) up the strength of my fleets in a pinch if a war goes badly.
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This... seems pretty bad. The current sprawl/admin cap system is garbage, so tying edicts into it seems worrying. The food/energy/minerals edicts (or at least food, I'm assuming the others are similar) seem to be getting with a double nerf: the jobs get an energy upkeep, and being a bonus to job production, so stations/megastructures no longer get buffed. The numbers might change obviously, but if mining subsidies impose the same upkeep on miners as farming subsidies does on farmers you're paying 0.5 energy for 0.8 minerals. Which is probably nice most of the time I guess, but hardly exciting. Fleet supremacy seems really bad unless majorly buffed before release, that +10% ship upkeep kills it stone dead later on. Plus IIRC the next ship level after 100 exp (easily acquired from the starbase building) is 1000, so the +100 exp is really meh. In general it seems like edicts will become pretty low-impact, and I don't think I like that. I'm also really worried about them decreasing pop growth unless they change the building slot system, early game is already slow enough. I'd say too slow, actually.
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Torrannor posted:What's so bad about them? I like that I can spend resources to (mainly) up the strength of my fleets in a pinch if a war goes badly. PittTheElder posted:The speed one is amazing, I use it basically every war. Also seeing them stay means I know there's no near future plan to make rare resources rare enough to be useful for actually interesting mechanics.
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Splicer posted:Especially with the changes to sprawl they're just a "spend some resources to win harder" button. They're not interesting, they're just something to forget to use sometimes. Which the AI does all the time so lol. 
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Splicer posted:Before the new sprawl mechanics they were arguably a way to make smaller empires competitive, but now it's basically the opposite, and leaving them unchanged means they're another part of the game with no real purpose that's going to hang around doing nothing but cause more bugs and weird AI behaviour. Doesn't the SR edict cost scaling ignore admin cap?
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